Im all for second chances. But what if they turn into 3rd and fourth chances to succeed in boxing? Then it gets annoying. Im not talking about losing and then losing rematches. Im talking about fighters who miraculously are hyped back into the boxing scene even though they're looked terribly. You could add Rahman to this list, but he stays off this list as he beat the legetimate champ in 2001 (he's beaten someone better than Vital or Wlad have ever beaten).
Wladamir Klitschko
Dominick Guinn
Derek Gainer
Arturo Gatti (Augustus is like Gatti, except without a following)
Hector Camacho Jr
Junior "Martien" Witter (dude ran from Zab a couple years ago and wants the American public to respect him)
Kirk Johnson
Oleg Maskaev
You could add Golota, Botha but lets be real, they were picked to be punching bags.
(Forgive my spelling, just wiping the cold out my eye. Got a good sleep in :).)
andrew golota. it seems like everytime he steps into the ring its for a title and he pretty much blows them all. thats why i nominate him as don kings main bitch. :D
andrew golota hands down...he beats nobody...yets keep getting chances to fight for the title
dont completely agree with you, he did beat many but he still fought many good fights.
he was leading on grant when he quit.
he was leading on bowe bothe times just to ge dqed
he beat ruiz but was badly robbed and he fought a good draw with byrd.
he is problem is his mentality and stupidity not his boxing skills
ImSoFlyyy I don't want to break out my Tyson rants, but if youre going to act like a dick then I think I'm going to have to. I think most of the 18+ knowledgable posters on board here would agree with me.
Tyson's career-defining moment (a positive one) was knocking out a light-heavweight. Without anyone else to measure him aganist, I don't think it's fair to put him in the same league with someone like an ali, frazier, marciano, or louis, as they showed aganist elite competition that they were great. Tyson may have been, but I believe that the man who folded aganist holyfield was the same man who fought spinks, except spinks never tested him.
AND..
Like it or not, a fighter is inevitably measured by the level of competition he faced, and how he fared aganist his elite foes. Lewis isnt fair, but Holyfield dominating him certainly is. I also don't really buy the sob-story stuff either. Plenty of fighters have the rags-to-riches story, antonio tarver being a present day example. The point is, a fighter's true character is shown (or exposed, in this case), when he faces adversity in the ring. When has tyson ever showed the "heart of a champion"?
Tyson's personal problems may have cause him to be exposed aganist Douglas, but it certainly would have happened down the line, like in the first holyfield fight. He had the greatest physical tools ever there's no denying that but given his intagibles (or lack thereof), how could you say that he would defeat any of the all-time greats, when he didn't?
And look, it's Junior, showcasing his grade ten spelling level and lashing out at me because I constnatly point out how immature and ignorant he is.
ahh the classic :)
Lol. Your posts are funny. JUST FUNNY.
Your inability to defend yourself with a keyboard is even more funny. Sometimes my fingers hurt from making you my bitch.
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Mike Tyson is a future hall of famer. He's already succeeded so he has no place in this thread. Clear?
Suceeded when?
By becoming the youngest heavyweight champion?
Thats it. That's all she wrote.
He failed in the biggest fights of his career. Lewis and Holyfield. He got his ass handed to him, and that's that.
He has the most PPV fights of any fighter in the history of the division....and most of them were against complete bums.
Everyone said he was going to take over the division. Excuses, Excuses. He was given every chance to succeed and failed.
If you think boxing boils down to a popularity contest, more power to you.
Unlike you, people who know boxing......know that Tyson was a fan favorite because of his demeanor.
Not because he was an outstanding heavyweight.
His biggest wins of his career came over a washed up Holmes and blown up Spinks
Thats it. Hate to break it to you.
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Mike Tyson is a future hall of famer. He's already succeeded so he has no place in this thread. Clear?
You are virtually worthless as a poster.
You lack the ability to back up anything you type....because of your agenda in coalition with your lack of brain cells.
Tyson a legend? sure. Among teenagers like you.
He is easily the most overhyped fighter of all time. Sure. When he was young he was a wrecking ball.
But when he got older, he started to fade....and fast.
He was given opportunity after opportunity to regain his status as heavyweight champion of the world...and he failed.
Just like you fail to make any point you try.
The guy is a legend. He doesn't fit into this thread. Ahahha. WRONG AGAIN!
You are virtually worthless as a poster.
You lack the ability to back up anything you type....because of your agenda in coalition with your lack of brain cells.
Tyson a legend? sure. Among teenagers like you.
He is easily the most overhyped fighter of all time. Sure. When he was young he was a wrecking ball.
But when he got older, he started to fade....and fast.
He was given opportunity after opportunity to regain his status as heavyweight champion of the world...and he failed.
Just like you fail to make any point you try.
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o its bozo i wonder what his post says, o its about klitschko, who would have guessed
And look, it's Junior, showcasing his grade ten spelling level and lashing out at me because I constnatly point out how immature and ignorant he is.
The guy is a legend. He doesn't fit into this thread. Ahahha. WRONG AGAIN!
What a dumb fuck.
Tyson is fits perfectly into this thread. And you wont even admit it.
He lost all the biggest fights of his career and was given so many second chances and never did a damn thing.
Golota? Bruno? you have got to be kidding me.
They are garbage, and you critiscise Wlad for fighting bums? he fought way better opponents than those two.
Tyson was overhyped, and just because he is black.....you enjoy his manhood being forced down your throat.
Race traitor. You are easily the biggest moron on this forum....and I normally wont flame like this.
but you make Mike Tyson Jr. look like a fucking rocket scientist.
Wlad did not dominate Williamson.
He chased him around akwardly for the 1st few rounds, looked like a deer caught in headlights after getting put down, and seemed very clumsy and usure of himself the entire fight. He won a narrow SPLIT technical decision.
There was nothing dominating about that performance in the least.
o its bozo i wonder what his post says, o its about klitschko, who would have guessed
I leave him off that list. He actually beat people even when he was old, he KTFO Golota Bruno etc. He was still live cause of his punching power. Im talking about fighters that never did SHYT and were hyped back time after time despite looking terrible.
What a dumb fuck.
Tyson is fits perfectly into this thread. And you wont even admit it.
He lost all the biggest fights of his career and was given so many second chances and never did a damn thing.
Golota? Bruno? you have got to be kidding me.
They are garbage, and you critiscise Wlad for fighting bums? he fought way better opponents than those two.
Tyson was overhyped, and just because he is black.....you enjoy his manhood being forced down your throat.
Race traitor. You are easily the biggest moron on this forum....and I normally wont flame like this.
but you make Mike Tyson Jr. look like a fucking rocket scientist.
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Wlad did not dominate Williamson.
He chased him around akwardly for the 1st few rounds, looked like a deer caught in headlights after getting put down, and seemed very clumsy and usure of himself the entire fight. He won a narrow SPLIT technical decision.
There was nothing dominating about that performance in the least.
Wlad looked horrible against TOS and TOS had him down to at the end of that fight.
TOS had him down in the fourth round and the fight ended in 6. That is not "the end"
Not to mention it was a flash knockdown, and Wlad got right up unscathed.
He was off balance more than anything.
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Never thought TOS's strategy was to take him into the later rounds. TOS after that KD was trying to TKO/KO Wlad and was fighting aggressive. Not timidly like before the KD.
BULLLLSHIITTTTTT, TOS got his ass handed to him on the platter after that one KD. That was the only moment of the fight when he did not run and he was getting properfucked.