Steve Collins: "I'd of beaten Calzaghe"

Man, this Collins figure really pisses me off.. Fuck off, you weren't good!

But most of all dude, Collins' sick tactics used beforehand about being hypnotised and that Eubank needed to kill him to keep him down played tricks with Chris' head. Collins found the skeleton in Eubank's closet because Chris had flashbacks to Michael Watson when Collins was clearly there for the taking, so he backed off and did nothing rather than finish Collins. Collins cheated. playing head games isnt cheating. if it was, i guess u think roberto duran cheated in his first fight with leonard, and leonard cheated in the 2nd, and ali cheated in all of his fights, right?

Collins seriously overrates himself,if the referee had counted both Eubank knockdowns on Collins (he counted the knockdown in round 10,but not the knockdown in the round 12) then Eubank would of won by a margin and Collins would of faded into oblivion as an unknown journeyman. All three judges scored round 10 as 9-8 for Eubank because he posed when Collins was hurt,it should of been 10-8 not 9-8. All three judges scored round 12 10-9 for Collins but if the referee had been doing his job right it would and should of been 10-8 for Eubank. I had Eubank winning seven rounds,two of which I scored 10-8. So Eubank should of won 115-111 against Collins and remained unbeaten,his next fight after Collins was supposed to be either Virgil Hill in Glasgow or a fight in Germany against either Maske,Rocky or Dariusz. But most of all dude, Collins' sick tactics used beforehand about being hypnotised and that Eubank needed to kill him to keep him down played tricks with Chris' head. Collins found the skeleton in Eubank's closet because Chris had flashbacks to Michael Watson when Collins was clearly there for the taking, so he backed off and did nothing rather than finish Collins. Collins cheated.

Collins seriously overrates himself,if the referee had counted both Eubank knockdowns on Collins (he counted the knockdown in round 10,but not the knockdown in the round 12) then Eubank would of won by a margin and Collins would of faded into oblivion as an unknown journeyman. All three judges scored round 10 as 9-8 for Eubank because he posed when Collins was hurt,it should of been 10-8 not 9-8. All three judges scored round 12 10-9 for Collins but if the referee had been doing his job right it would and should of been 10-8 for Eubank. I had Eubank winning seven rounds,two of which I scored 10-8. So Eubank should of won 115-111 against Collins and remained unbeaten,his next fight after Collins was supposed to be either Virgil Hill in Glasgow or a fight in Germany against either Maske,Rocky or Dariusz.

Collins seriously overrates himself,if the referee had counted both Eubank knockdowns on Collins (he counted the knockdown in round 10,but not the knockdown in the round 12) then Eubank would of won by a margin. All three judges scored round 10 as 9-8 for Eubank because he posed when Collins was hurt,it should of been 10-8 not 9-8. All three judges scored round 12 10-9 for Collins but if the referee had been doing his job right it would and should of been 10-8 for Eubank. I had Eubank winning seven rounds,two of which I scored 10-8. So Eubank should of won 115-111 against Collins and remained unbeaten,his next fight after Collins was supposed to be either Virgil Hill in Glasgow or a fight in Germany against Rocky,Maske or Dariusz.

Heres a different one .. Boxing: Joe's missed a great chance May 15 2005 Peter Shuttleworth, Wales on Sunday STEVE Collins last night told world No 1 Joe Calzaghe: 'I'm sad you missed out on our golden generation.' The WBO champion has reigned supreme in an otherwise sparse super-middleweight division for almost eight years but Collins insists Calzaghe's lack of top-class opposition has cost him dear. The unbeaten Welshman's 16th defence in Mario Veit's backyard last weekend - where he ended the German's resistance in the sixth round - hoisted Calzaghe's record up with the UK's all-time elite. But Collins, however, handed out a dose of realism last night. Calzaghe's record is magnificent since he first ruled the roost in October 1997, beating Chris Eubank. But it's a lack of real, quality scalps on his role of honour since that diminishes Calzaghe's reputation. Yet the 'Celtic Warrior' who lorded over the super-middleweight division during the halcyon days of the early 1990s, completing an awesome double over Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank - is sympathetic to Calzaghe's plight. "What you must remember is that Joe is the only decent super-middleweight around today," said Collins. "Joe is a very good fighter, by far and away the No 1, without question, as no-one comes close to challenging him. But he can't realise his potential as there's no-one good enough to test him. "I feel sorry for Joe because he has a great attitude, shown dedication and deserves everything he gets. "As he's a big super-middleweight he's had to train hard so he's needed a good attitude; he's been a champion for all this time and has come through personal problems. But when it comes to proving himself as one of the great super-middleweights of all time, he hasn't been given a good going-over. It's a different league now compared to ten or 15 years ago. Boxing divisions have great highs leading to depressing lows and that's what the super-middleweight division has experienced since Benn, Eubank, myself and a few of the American lads quit. "It would have been great for the sport, let alone Joe, if he'd have been around then as he would have improved as a fighter and been better than he is now because he'd have had experience of fighting excellent boxers. "As it is, he's kind of lost it because winning is pretty easy for him. "The experience of fighting Americans in America is something that can't be underestimated and a greater arsenal of fighters would have tested Joe. Unfortunately, we don't know what his flaws are as no-one has been good enough to even start to expose them. "The fact he hasn't fought a real big name since Eubank in '97 means Joe can't be classed as one of British boxing's greats. While his defence record is phenomenal, the fact that Charles Brewer and Robin Reid are among his best wins says it all for me. "I don't think Joe would have been No 1 fifteen years ago, he'd have been in the top ten; I think most of the ex-pros agree on that. "We were just better fighters in a better division. "Unfortunately we'll never really know, but one thing's for sure he would have become a better fighter and improved his style and that would have given him an American break." Unbeaten Calzaghe, who holds the world record of 39 successive pro victories, has struggled for Stateside recognition. And Collins, who defended his WBO title eight times, said: "Joe hasn't endeared himself to American TV as they don't like his style. They like the American toe-to-toe style rather than Joe's typically European busy-busy style. "But my advice to Joe would be not to worry about it. If he doesn't get big fights because there's no-one out there then that's life, it's not his fault. Joe's title defence record is one of the best ever and he's earned a lot of money so he'll be talked about as one of the greats." Calzaghe is planning a voluntary defence of his WBO crown in the summer with Brian Magee top of the possible list. He should have fought the Ulsterman in February but was forced to withdraw at the last minute as Veit's promoters stole in to seal a mandatory shot against the German. But Collins added: "He could do with going up a weight now to try and seal his two-weight world championship dream against one of the Americans. "Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver are big names but as Calzaghe isn't, American TV won't pay big money for the fight. And Joe's too big a risk if the Yanks aren't getting a bumper pay day." http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0700sports/1200sportsroundup/tm_objectid=15519133%26method=full%26siteid=50082%26headline=boxing--joe-s-missed-a-great-chance-name_page.html Fuck those Welsh newspapers, the only place Calzaghe is a great fighter is at Mario's pizza place in Cardiff and at the George Inn in Swansea.

collins would win, i dont think both of em are exactly exciting but both of them are quite equal, it should be a good match

Heres a different one .. Boxing: Joe's missed a great chance May 15 2005 Peter Shuttleworth, Wales on Sunday STEVE Collins last night told world No 1 Joe Calzaghe: 'I'm sad you missed out on our golden generation.' The WBO champion has reigned supreme in an otherwise sparse super-middleweight division for almost eight years but Collins insists Calzaghe's lack of top-class opposition has cost him dear. The unbeaten Welshman's 16th defence in Mario Veit's backyard last weekend - where he ended the German's resistance in the sixth round - hoisted Calzaghe's record up with the UK's all-time elite. But Collins, however, handed out a dose of realism last night. Calzaghe's record is magnificent since he first ruled the roost in October 1997, beating Chris Eubank. But it's a lack of real, quality scalps on his role of honour since that diminishes Calzaghe's reputation. Yet the 'Celtic Warrior' who lorded over the super-middleweight division during the halcyon days of the early 1990s, completing an awesome double over Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank - is sympathetic to Calzaghe's plight. "What you must remember is that Joe is the only decent super-middleweight around today," said Collins. "Joe is a very good fighter, by far and away the No 1, without question, as no-one comes close to challenging him. But he can't realise his potential as there's no-one good enough to test him. "I feel sorry for Joe because he has a great attitude, shown dedication and deserves everything he gets. "As he's a big super-middleweight he's had to train hard so he's needed a good attitude; he's been a champion for all this time and has come through personal problems. But when it comes to proving himself as one of the great super-middleweights of all time, he hasn't been given a good going-over. It's a different league now compared to ten or 15 years ago. Boxing divisions have great highs leading to depressing lows and that's what the super-middleweight division has experienced since Benn, Eubank, myself and a few of the American lads quit. "It would have been great for the sport, let alone Joe, if he'd have been around then as he would have improved as a fighter and been better than he is now because he'd have had experience of fighting excellent boxers. "As it is, he's kind of lost it because winning is pretty easy for him. "The experience of fighting Americans in America is something that can't be underestimated and a greater arsenal of fighters would have tested Joe. Unfortunately, we don't know what his flaws are as no-one has been good enough to even start to expose them. "The fact he hasn't fought a real big name since Eubank in '97 means Joe can't be classed as one of British boxing's greats. While his defence record is phenomenal, the fact that Charles Brewer and Robin Reid are among his best wins says it all for me. "I don't think Joe would have been No 1 fifteen years ago, he'd have been in the top ten; I think most of the ex-pros agree on that. "We were just better fighters in a better division. "Unfortunately we'll never really know, but one thing's for sure he would have become a better fighter and improved his style and that would have given him an American break." Unbeaten Calzaghe, who holds the world record of 39 successive pro victories, has struggled for Stateside recognition. And Collins, who defended his WBO title eight times, said: "Joe hasn't endeared himself to American TV as they don't like his style. They like the American toe-to-toe style rather than Joe's typically European busy-busy style. "But my advice to Joe would be not to worry about it. If he doesn't get big fights because there's no-one out there then that's life, it's not his fault. Joe's title defence record is one of the best ever and he's earned a lot of money so he'll be talked about as one of the greats." Calzaghe is planning a voluntary defence of his WBO crown in the summer with Brian Magee top of the possible list. He should have fought the Ulsterman in February but was forced to withdraw at the last minute as Veit's promoters stole in to seal a mandatory shot against the German. But Collins added: "He could do with going up a weight now to try and seal his two-weight world championship dream against one of the Americans. "Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver are big names but as Calzaghe isn't, American TV won't pay big money for the fight. And Joe's too big a risk if the Yanks aren't getting a bumper pay day." http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0700sports/1200sportsroundup/tm_objectid=15519133%26method=full%26siteid=50082%26headline=boxing--joe-s-missed-a-great-chance-name_page.html

Lol, there's a good reason why Collins pulled out of his fight with Calzaghe with only 10 days to go .. Collins ducked him, took the easy way out and retired instead of fighting Calzaghe .. (Chris Eubank was scheduled to fight at cruiserweight at Disneyland Paris but had to quickly get to Sheffield from France to replace 'The Celtic Worrier' to give Calzaghe an opponent with only a weeks notice and 25 lbs bodymass to lose!)

"I'd OF...." LMAO

He sure talks a good game thats for sure....... He was very lucky ,in my opinion, to have caught Benn/Eubank right at the end of the line. To listen to him you would think he was in the HOF!

But there was no secrets to Steves style generally,it was ugly. He was all about heavyhandedness and natural stamina. He had no knockout power at all and it looked as if he had never really learned how to punch properly. Even though he was lacking in power and skill,he was effective in what he did. What he was able to do was put full effort into each and every punch throughout the whole fight which made him awkward to handle. He got the job done,he did what he had to do. He knew tricks,he knew how to be dirty. He got the job done. But the guy wasnt pretty to watch.

Stevie was a hard man. But he was an overachiever. No way does Stevie beat Eubank or Benn at their bests. Calzaghe outpoints him,too talented for him. 86-94 Collins stood in the middle of the ring with his gloves grabbing his head,waiting for an opportunity to unleash aggressive inside work then trying to have the last word in exchanges(chin,workrate). He was kind of a tough boxerpuncher or tough counterpuncher back then,more patience for the right time. 95-97 Collins was just a marauding warrior who continuously came forward with no guard at all,relying on his own chin and toughness to wear his opponents down. He outhussled you.

But there was no secrets to Steves style generally,it was ugly. He was all about heavyhandedness and natural stamina. He had no knockout power at all and it looked as if he had never really learned how to punch properly. Even though he was lacking in power and skill,he was effective in what he did. What he was able to do was put full effort into each and every punch throughout the whole fight which made him awkward to handle. He got the job done,he did what he had to do. He knew tricks,he knew how to be dirty. He got the job done. But the guy wasnt pretty to watch.

Stevie was a tough,hard man. But he was an overachiever. No way does Stevie beat Eubank or Benn at their bests. Calzaghe outpoints him,too talented for him. Sorry Stevie. 86-94 Collins stood in the middle of the ring with his gloves grabbing his head,waiting for an opportunity to unleash aggressive inside work. He was kind of a tough boxerpuncher or tough counterpuncher back then,more patience for the right time. 95-97 Collins was just a marauding warrior who continuously came forward with no guard at all,relying on his own chin and toughness to wear his opponents down. He outhussled you.

Stevie was a tough,hard man. But he was an overachiever. No way does Stevie beat Eubank or Benn at their bests. Calzaghe outpoints him,too talented for him. Sorry Stevie. 86-94 Collins stood in the middle of the ring with his gloves grabbing his head,waiting for an opportunity to unleash aggressive inside work. He was kind of a tough boxerpuncher or tough counterpuncher back then,more patience for the right time. 95-97 Collins was just a marauding warrior who continuously came forward with no guard at all,relying on his own chin and toughness to wear his opponents down. He outhussled you.