Either way, people's opinions are really hard to fathom, and differ seriously.
Like you say Toney would have little trouble beating Wlad.
I think that hurts my face. Wlad would kill that fat midget.
how could wlad kill a fat midget that he couldnt ever hit. toney by easy tko when wlad gets tired or a lopsided ud. its simple you cant beat a guy you cant hit and wlad would get worn out by punching toney in the arms and shoulders.
its funny how many wlad haters jump at the bait when a wlad thread appears and then use a poll in there favor. lol,,,,,I love it
Yep.....
They are like fiends searching the ground after a crack dealer walks out of the room. All you have to do.....is mention the word "wlad" in a post...
and out come at least ten.
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hmmm,,,seems to me its the haters that are upset. and your pointing to a poll thats full of haters such as yourself? lol,,,come on,,,be more intelligent than that
Funny, you speak as though you're completely ignorant that the tiny portion of those who voted for Wlad are your fellow cheerleading Nut Huggers. How does that make it any more credible?
The bottom line is that almost all the 10 or so votes you see for Wlad on here are from the typical and familiar group of nut huggers who'd vote this way for him to beat Ali, Louis, etc.
That's a joke.
For you to insinuate that anoyone who voted for Lewis in this poll did so just because they hate Wlad is non sense.
No one ever claimed that Lewis was a man with balls. He wasnt...
Remember how excited Lennox was when Wlad lost? All of the sudden he was giving interviews again, and became enthusiastic about fighting again all of the sudden. Hehe.
I'd go with Lennox. He would have trained like a madman for this fight, and Manny would have had a good plan for beating Wlad, since he watched and admired him so much.
I can tell you one thing, though. Lennox and Manny were not nearly as sure as the people in this thread, though. Hehe. Because Lennox dodged Wlad from the Tyson win to when Wlad lost to Sanders. They had no interest in fighting him, and would have probably retired, leaving Tyson as his final fight, if Sanders had not beaten Wlad.
Remember how excited Lennox was when Wlad lost? All of the sudden he was giving interviews again, and became enthusiastic about fighting again all of the sudden. Hehe.
That might have been me you are talking about. If it is, then the this poll is sensless because there are way too many haters of both Klitschko's on this site.
I'm a fan of Lewis, but to me he holds a spot on the apparent top 10 heavyweights of all time as a placeholder for somebody greater. I'm not saying that's Wlad at all, or Vitali for that matter. None of those fighters even compare to the people on the top 10. If Ali, and Foreman for example are on the list, you can't add Lewis because he isn't even in the same league as those guys.
Lewis can win the fight, but if it happened as a trilogy or something, Wlad wins it. Lewis has had bad problems looking past fighters and not training properly.
Like I asked before; other then the past great heavyweights of all time, who on Lewis's record would utterly destroy Wlad if they had fought? I'm probably going to get flammed like crazy by "you're an idiot" type posts. But you can't say as a definitive answer that Lewis always wins, without even considering that Wlad seems to punch harder, is bigger, throws straighter shots, can KO with both hands, and has good speed and accuracy.
nice to finally see a nice unbiased accurate post
No, someone else was saying Wlad would TKO Lewis.... I just wanted to prove to this guy what nonsense that is. This is probably the most lop-sided poll I've seen on this site.
That might have been me you are talking about. If it is, then the this poll is sensless because there are way too many haters of both Klitschko's on this site.
I'm a fan of Lewis, but to me he holds a spot on the apparent top 10 heavyweights of all time as a placeholder for somebody greater. I'm not saying that's Wlad at all, or Vitali for that matter. None of those fighters even compare to the people on the top 10. If Ali, and Foreman for example are on the list, you can't add Lewis because he isn't even in the same league as those guys.
Lewis can win the fight, but if it happened as a trilogy or something, Wlad wins it. Lewis has had bad problems looking past fighters and not training properly.
Like I asked before; other then the past great heavyweights of all time, who on Lewis's record would utterly destroy Wlad if they had fought? I'm probably going to get flammed like crazy by "you're an idiot" type posts. But you can't say as a definitive answer that Lewis always wins, without even considering that Wlad seems to punch harder, is bigger, throws straighter shots, can KO with both hands, and has good speed and accuracy.
Im a big shot? thanks man,,,,I appreiciate it. pre sanders wlad would have stopped lewis within 6 rounds whereas the wlad of today likely would have been stopped within 4 rounds
I'll have whatever you're on............. :eek:
So who you pick? Lewis or Wlad big shot?
Im a big shot? thanks man,,,,I appreiciate it. pre sanders wlad would have stopped lewis within 6 rounds whereas the wlad of today likely would have been stopped within 4 rounds
Could you be anyomre transparent at how upset this thread makes you?
Do you have any idea how poorly accomplished you make both Klitschkos using that discrediting logic?
Lewis was a dominating fighter when he was focused and viewed his opponent as a threat.
Wlad's chin is very poor.
Lewis is one of the hardest punching champions in history.
Wlad has a chance, but it would be a tiny one.
Take a look at the numbers in this poll.
It's amazing how much topics like this can upset you clowns.
hmmm,,,seems to me its the haters that are upset. and your pointing to a poll thats full of haters such as yourself? lol,,,come on,,,be more intelligent than that
based on what?
toney is probably the most talented hw today.
wlads last outing against peter was pathetic
well,,,he cleary won on points. that must make peter one helluva bum. funny how nearly everyone picked peter to win by devastating knockout but need to turn it around now that wlad won. lol
Yeah.
Also keep in mind that poll was created shortly after Toney's victory over Guinn and people were excited.
Couple that with the outrageous number of people that hate Wlad and you have the makings of a biased poll. Most people that hate Wlad will vote for Pacman to K.O. him in 2.
The numbers were virtually even.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48843&highlight=Toney
its funny how many wlad haters jump at the bait when a wlad thread appears and then use a poll in there favor. lol,,,,,I love it
Banking on a lesser fighter (in this case- Wlad) to win by one punch KO....is a sure fire way to make a bad pick.
Sure....Wlad can bang, & Lewis was vulnerable.
But, Lewis was a better puncher than Wlad, had better stamina, better defense, more experience...
Basically, he had everything over Wlad Klitschko.
totally disagree. lewis had a better defense and a slightly better chin but was not a better boxer/puncher than wlad. wlad is much more consistant with and quicker with his jab and has a much better left hook. wlad is quicker with his combinations. lewis tended to paw with his jab often and didnt have much of a left hook. lewis's right hand was awesome when he was on but wlad is a much better 2 fisted puncher than lewis ever was
So who you pick? Lewis or Wlad big shot?
Im the one upset? lewis was one of the biggest punchers in heavyweight history. I didnt dispute that. what I disputed was wlad not having much if any chance and lewis being an all time great. he was way too inconsistant to be considered as such and never beat a great fighter in there prime. wlad would be the most dangerous boxer/puncher he'd ever faced. ruddock,,,and morrison were big hitters but one dimensional and lacked boxing ability. holy and tyson were shells of themselves when lewis fought them
Could you be anyomre transparent at how upset this thread makes you?
Do you have any idea how poorly accomplished you make both Klitschkos using that discrediting logic?
Lewis was a dominating fighter when he was focused and viewed his opponent as a threat.
Wlad's chin is very poor.
Lewis is one of the hardest punching champions in history.
Wlad has a chance, but it would be a tiny one.
Take a look at the numbers in this poll.
It's amazing how much topics like this can upset you clowns.
Im the one upset? lewis was one of the biggest punchers in heavyweight history. I didnt dispute that. what I disputed was wlad not having much if any chance and lewis being an all time great. he was way too inconsistant to be considered as such and never beat a great fighter in there prime. wlad would be the most dangerous boxer/puncher he'd ever faced. ruddock,,,and morrison were big hitters but one dimensional and lacked boxing ability. holy and tyson were shells of themselves when lewis fought them
Whats wrong with argument with no malicious intent behind it? That's just about what I've seen here...nobody is throwing around names, me and knives are arguing like civil people.
:confused:
A good example of what he is talking about....is how I got attacked by other posters simply by posting my opinion earlier in this thread.
Instead of them responding civil IE "I dont agree"
It was more like "You are so stupid, FUCK YOU, I HATE YOU".
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