James Toney has the power and Skills to Tko Wlad ??
I know he has the Skills but we all know he has lost alot of power coming up all those weight classes and also being out of shape.
I Think he could still knock out or Tko Wlad .
I think Vit will beat Toney so badly they will need his fingerprints to identify him.
But if Wlad will go at it, I dont think that even DNA will be good enough for identification.
Since he's been exposed, Wlad has been dropped by every fighter he has faced.
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Thank you for proving once again that you are the biggest, incompetent fool on this forum :eek:
id love to see a fight between vit and toney i think toney would make him look stupid and draw him into his kind of fight totally until the power began to tell, then id say its goodnight james
right. toney's too small and too fat to carry any knockout power. like i said many times: toney's knockout days are over.
thas right, Toney is used to fighting inside and thas how he controls fights, A Klitschko would not let him do that, they would just tear him apart from the outside, this is where Dominick Guinn shoulda been but his stupid ass decided to play Toney and Toneys game. I just so wish that Vitali fights this Toney character so all of u Toney lovers on here would shut the hell up....
i dont think toney will stop hardly anyone in the HW division, he outskills and out boxes most though, he punches with enough authority to get attention but wont force to many (if anymore) stoppages
Thats what i was thinking .
Most people See him and say probably not .
I think he could sneak in a counter hurt wlad and drop him .
Or possibly get the ref to stop the fight on a barrage of punches .
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, it would be the other way around Toney is prolly so easy to drop, one Wlad right hand and Toney would go down...
I doubt it....he can't one punch KO any HW IMO,It may be possible for him to get a stoppage by an accumilation of punches but he does not open up like that all that often he likes to counter and seems more reluctant to go for a KO since he has been at HW.
the only thing James Toney is good at is talking shit...
ya, but Wlad's GEETIN DROPPED errrr fight aint gone. He'll continually to get dropped if he fights sumone wit decent power.
what the hell is err fight aint gone and what the hell does sumone me????
I don't think he has the power to KO top heavyweights. However, if there is one he could KO, it would definately be Wlad.
if sam peter couldnt tko Wlad what makes u think James Toney can do it??????
James Toney has the power and Skills to Tko Wlad ??
I know he has the Skills but we all know he has lost alot of power coming up all those weight classes and also being out of shape.
I Think he could still knock out or Tko Wlad .
James Toneys power is a lil better then Byrds, and Byrds punches are pitty pats....
Toney haven't KOd anybody in HW division except half-dead Evander (a TKO, corner stoppage). What makes anybody think that if Toney couldn't KO Booker, Ruiz, and Guinn, he will KO Wlad? Raving about Toney's technique doesn't prove shit, but his record in HW division does.
one more thing guys, let's not talk of peter having knocked wladimir down 3 times. i can't believe that this was mentioned quite a bit in the first few days after the fight, then it gets glossed over.
those knockdowns were only legitimate as the ref wrongly had not even bothered peter about the clear-as-day rabbit punching.
and even saying something like 'wlad turned his head so he got hit in the back of it', is just a bullshit excuse to descredit his win over peter a bit more.
i've seen peter do this in every fight i've seen him in. and multiple times.
not trying to rant, but referees' need to keep an eye out for this trait before it gives a fighter brain damage.
Ya'll Nuts? Toney Can't Knock Both Klitschko Brothers At All..forget About Vitali..he Stand No Chance Against Him.vitali Will Ktfo Toney Between 5 And He Will Take Worse Beating Ever In His Pro Career.
And For Waldimir,no Matter What People Says About His Chin,he Will Clearly Box Toney From Outside And His Jab Will All It Takes To Beat Toney.i Even Doubt Waldimir Could Take Toneys Best Shot And Doesnt Even Blink...toney Gonna Get His Ass Whacked If He Fight Any Of Klitschko Brothers....they The King In The Heavyweight Division..period!
it's just surprising to hear people think that toney would be able to ko wladimir. just a bit more shocking than thinking he could tko wlad. even jt beating wladimir, to me, seems to be a stretch.
when wlad wants to box, he cannot be outboxed. check his records on this.
when wlad wants to knock you out, he can. check his records on this.
only chance fighters have of beating wladimir is catching him when he's not sure which of the above he wants to do.
Yea check the rec. Toney can be outboxed. He has been 3 times. Wlad has NEVER been outboxed. And Toney aint the one to do it.
it's just surprising to hear people think that toney would be able to ko wladimir. just a bit more shocking than thinking he could tko wlad. even jt beating wladimir, to me, seems to be a stretch.
when wlad wants to box, he cannot be outboxed. check his records on this.
when wlad wants to knock you out, he can. check his records on this.
only chance fighters have of beating wladimir is catching him when he's not sure which of the above he wants to do.
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Originally Posted by SUPER ZAB FAN
What makes you think that ???
Wlads Concrete chin or his far superior boxing skills over James Toney ??
I got to hear this one ??
Many people think Byrd could give Toney some trouble (although I personally think Toney wins this one by UD)
However, Wlad made Byrd look like an armature when Byrd was in his prime, winning most of the rounds...
Wlad probably has the best offence skills in the game... and Toney is a counter-puncher... I just don't see him reaching Wlad, or getting anywhere near....
Hmmm...Where do I start...How about the size...or about power...or offensive arsenal...or age...or how about just one of'em is a real HW.
The fancy shoulder roll aint gonna help you when you will get pounded from pillar to post.
Not saying his competition has been good at heavyweight , but Toney has fought all types of " REAL" HEavyweights.
The fact of the matter is WLAD does has have offensive power and a great aresenal , but Toney would use every trick in the book and i think he could stop him . True enough this is all talk because he would probably come into the fight and be very cautious . I think he could get him though .
What makes you think that ???
Wlads Concrete chin or his far superior boxing skills over James Toney ??
I got to hear this one ??
We all know Wlad's chin is questionable, but he survived Peter, who is most definently a harder puncher than James. Like I said, Wlad is stronger, much taller, and just as fast as Toney. Only die hard Toney fans, or Wlad bashers would thinkt that Toney can take out Wlad. I'm a big JT fan, but he is too small for both the K brothers.