barrera retire?

Barrera is a great,great fighter. But he has a black mark on his resume. That was his defeat to Pac. Pac is offering him the chance to redeem himself. He declines to take the rematch. However he makes alot of noise about not taking leftovers,not being himself, that it was an off night...blah...blah...blah.... Then for his own sake ,he better prove it! Obviously, someone is afraid. And it sure aint PAC.

I don't know why Pac is ALWAYS brought up in a MAB thread. Perhaps because MAB first said he had an off night, then said he didn't want to fight a Morales "left over", and this just rallied the Pac fanatics. However, there are lot of us who are fans of MAB, like myself. I saw him defeat Naseem Hamed. I saw him beat Morales, twice (maybe three times). There's many of us who do respect the man and you'll notice me defending him a lot. Wait a second don't get on the offensive so quickly, I just wanted to ask the question. I'm not saying that there wasn't reasons for Pac fans not to like him, I just wanted to know why? I know that a lot of Pinoys respect and like MAB, just like there are a lot of Mexicanos that like Pac, but both sides are hesitant to admit it. I like both fighters, but can honestly say that to date, MAB has had the better carreer. That's not taking anything away from Pac either. I mean just look at who we are comparing him with.

sorry if you feel that way man, we're just reacting to what MAB fans say... like kimmy, telling us that pac is a nobody is unacceptable t us and adoring MAb like his life depended on him... cause and effect... we respect barrera, but if you want us to respect him better, acknowledge pac and don't downplay him like he has not done anything for boxing... I agree, Pac is a good fighter. I don't know if we can say he is a great fighter yet. He is still young and has a lot left in him. Would you agree with me saying that? Would you agree with me saying that MAB is a great fighter? I guess I am trying to be peace maker between both sides. I can tell both sides respect each others fighter, as far as their carreer is concerned. But I guess the arguement is always going to be, "What would happen in a MAB Pac rematch?" Even when and if it happens their will be excuses from the losing side, so their is not point arguing about it.

think of it like this. berrera has: won titles in 3 weight classes. only been stopped once. been in the fight of the year twice. beaten fighers like erik morales, naseem hamed, kevin kelley, paulie ayala, johnny tapia, and robbie penden. 66 fights in 16 years of boxing. been fighting since he was 15 years old. been and is considered one of the best p4p fighters in the world. nothing else to prove. i think he should take one or two more superfights and retire.

The first reply answers your question :) There will never again be a thread about RJJ without Tarver being mentioned. I agree 100%, but my question was why all the MAB bashing? I mean even on the RJJ threads there isn't as much hatred towards RJJ. Why? Because he rematched AT? Just look what happened to him. Knocked out cold in first rematch, and lost again in the third fight. I just want to know why all the hatred.

Agreed, but can we also state that Pac man had an ADVANTAGE over barrera going up in weight to fight hi m. People make excuses and say oh the bigger guy was bigger so it wasn`t fair. Might we reverse it and say if pac had time to settle into a higher weight the advantage might have been Barrera`s. Fuck Manny pac, yes he beat Barrera but who cares, i like barrera, i care nothing for manny Pac, little shit!QUOTE] DAMN, now thats what I called a Hater, seriously. I, too like Barrera. I like the way he punched Kennedy Mckinney right on his face during a press conference. He's one bad mothufucka.I've seen almost all his fights and he's one of my favorite fighter of all time. BUT HE IS PAC'S BIAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH. DON'T YOU AGREE. MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA= PAC'S BIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCH :D

im mad about barera when he says pacman was a morales leftovers.like he didn't realize he is also a morales leftovers...that's why i hate barera. i respect him as a man not aa a fighter.i respect him coz his a legend. he lost to jr.jones.he was KO'D..but he rematched him.. but to pacman..??

I just got a question for the Pac fans, why is it that whenever a thread regarding MAB is brought up, all you guys, no wait A LOT OF YOU GUYS (sorry), are quick to attack the MAB fans? Now yes Pac beat MAB, he beat the shit out of him, but other than that horrible night can you guys actually say he has not had a great carreer? So what if he chooses not to rematch Pac? I understand what you all are saying that it is about the pride and all, but come on not all threads regarding MAB have to end up being a "Manny beat the shit out MAB" thread. Now would I like to see a rematch? YES, I would love to see it, I want to see if MAB really had an off-night or if Manny really has his number. Me personally, I think it was an off-night. But I will say this, if the rematch does happen, it will be a hell of a fight. the thing is, Barrera nuthuggers try to make excuses that it was an off night when he lost to Pac. then, Barrera nuthuggers keep sayin Barrera is a legend and insult Pac sayin Pacman will neva reach what Barrera's got now. then, we say why doesn't Barrera fight Pac again and his fanatics get silenced. But, what they don't see is Barrera's alternate options of fightin bums that has noc chance of winning (Monkey Fana) and a sparring partner (Robbie Peden) on PPV! Shyt, that would piss anybody not jest Pacquiao fans. Real boxing fans don't like wut Barrera is doin.

I just got a question for the Pac fans, why is it that whenever a thread regarding MAB is brought up, all you guys, no wait A LOT OF YOU GUYS (sorry), are quick to attack the MAB fans? Now yes Pac beat MAB, he beat the shit out of him, but other than that horrible night can you guys actually say he has not had a great carreer? So what if he chooses not to rematch Pac? I understand what you all are saying that it is about the pride and all, but come on not all threads regarding MAB have to end up being a "Manny beat the shit out MAB" thread. Now would I like to see a rematch? YES, I would love to see it, I want to see if MAB really had an off-night or if Manny really has his number. Me personally, I think it was an off-night. But I will say this, if the rematch does happen, it will be a hell of a fight.

pacman was paid to defeat barera..wow..barera paid pacman to humiliate him?if barera pay pacman to defeat me it should be by decision.. sorry for typo. if barera paid pacman to defeat him it should be by decision..

If Peden was paid then Pac must have paid double AND blown Morales` dick! pacman was paid to defeat barera..wow..barera paid pacman to humiliate him?if barera pay pacman to defeat me it should be by decision..

This is what I'm trying to quell, the Pacquiao fanatics who go too far. I'm a Pac fan, whether or not he's from my country, he is a joy to watch. He brings action and has zero dull moments. You can't hate him THAT much. Hell, even Latinos love to see him fight! He's like a small angry version of Duran (but without the defense :) ). kabayan, don't bother wit tis idiot. He clearly see things his way only.

fights I want to see Barrera in: ANYBODY wit a threat and a chance to win. To be specific, Barrios, Jesus Chavez! Don't gotta fight Pac. I don't want Barrera nuthuggers cryin a river again and make tons of excuses from an imaginary conveyor belt. No mo Monkey Fana on damn PPV's! NO mo fuckin sparring partner/ friends and sell em as opponents on PPV's. FUck Barrera is a fuckin coward fo doin shyt like these!!!!

What? All I did was ask a question. Barrera has been around forever, so if he retires, I really dont care. He shouldnt retire without getting a rematch with Pac though. you have to understand that manny Pac fans seem to act like Pac LOST Barrera because Barrera is like so much better overall, it hurts their mastebation when Pac fights,

that's sumthing chickens would say. True warriors seek tough challenges. They don't stop. That's why Morales is a tad above Barrera in that category. Morales seek challeneges and doesn't let up. What? All I did was ask a question. Barrera has been around forever, so if he retires, I really dont care. He shouldnt retire without getting a rematch with Pac though.

two fights I want to see before MAB retires... one against JMM and a rematch with the PAC ... yep, agreed 100%

Hey guys should barrera retire after one or two more fights? he is already 30 for me he should retire after two more fight how about you guys u think he should retire after two more fight's???????? Barrera has got his flames back after loosing to pac two years ago. If Barrera continues to win I say why retire?

before the peden fight barrera said hes got 6 fights left in him, me personally i only see one more career defining fight for barrera and thats to get back in the ring with pacquiao and try to reserve the result of their first meeting. he aint even gotta fight marquez or go up in weight for a fourth title at 135lbs, i hope he never fights morales again, thats done as far as im concerned, they fought 3 times, barrera came out the better and now he should move on. for me pacquiao is the only fight that he should be focused on, hopefully if pacquiao beats morales next year, then they can set up a summer or end of year fight in 2006. barrera can retire very satisfied with what he has done in his career so far, but if barrera did beat pacman, marquez and chavez at 135lbs, then retire, surely that will only add on to his already great legacy.

Hehe! You don't like Manny coz he beat Barrera. That's just the way it is sometimes, I hate Marquez coz he didn't stay down in the 1st round with Pac. :D Fair play. I don`t like Manny because its nut hugger season, Barrera put his time in, he is top class and i won`t hear bad mouthing towards him. manny beat barrera but what else? Beat some Bantam weight bums and unite the WBO title with the IBF. Let alone suffering KO defeats, two of them.

two fights I want to see before MAB retires... one against JMM and a rematch with the PAC ...