Do you think he will be less tentative against Taylor this time around? I personally think so. The average fan seems to be under the impression that he is solely limited to boxing from the outside....and does not posess the ability to mix it up on the inside.
Sure buddies. Keep telling yourselves that. Taylor might need to remember he is dealing with one of the most diverse pugilists to ever fight in this division, as well as one of the best INSIDE fighters.
This rematch means alot to me....because if Taylor wins LEGITIMATELY this time.....I will obviously give him due credit. As it stands...he recieved a gift decision in a fight where he was outlanded and outboxed by the craftier fighter.
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Everyone can say what they want but Hopkins CANNOT start with a bang and come out smokin'.
Bernard's talking like He is going to knock him out, but once the fight starts it's going to be safety first once again. I personally think this will be Hopkins last fight, and He will go out on a winning note.
He's going to need all the tricks of the trade to beat the younger Taylor but I think he can do it.
Hopkins confused Taylor the first fight and nothing shows me he won't do it again.
Hopkins is too old to outpoint Taylor over 12 rounds. Hopkins needs a KO, but didn't get one against a headbutted and tired Taylor in the first fight when he was behind on the scorecards, and it won't be any easier this time.
I don't agree that Hopkins is somehow coming in to the second fight so much better than he was in the first, and Taylor will be the same as he was in the first fight or worse. That makes no sense. The only thing Taylor needs to add is more stamina and it's a clear win for him. Hopkins won't trade with a fresh Taylor. I agree that he needs to, because a KO is his best strategy. Will Hopkins take that risk? I would love to see it, but don't expect to.
Personally, I didn't think that Hopkins took the first rounds off and coasted. I thought he displayed magnificent defensive skill with his footwork and upper body movement. If he isn't able to knock down Taylor on December 3, I hope that his corner of the ref does the right thing and calls the fight before Jermaine ends up taking too much punishment that would hinder his return. I thought it was a terrible beating that Hopkins gave to Joppy and his corner didn't stop the fight (although I suspect that the side bet between the two fighters might have had a bit to do with that decision).
i think taylor is going to be more of a game fighter this time around. but hopkins is still more crafty and probably more hungry too. he won that first fight flat out 116-112, close rounds go to the champ, not the challeger who didn't land an 1/8 of the punches he threw per round. hopkins has been the best conditioned fighter in boxing for years, starting fast and going the distance isnt going to be an issue with him, he gets stronger as the fight goes on, no worries there. i think he's going to make taylor fight harder sooner in the fight and pressure him into making mistakes. with a rigorous body attack early hopkins should have taylor out of there by the 10th rd.
like i said taylor will be more game this time. i'm sure he learned a lot in his last fight and he'll correct a lot of his mistakes,and have more confidence. but having more confidence might be his downfall in this fight because he'll be in closer and easier to hit, making himself more open to be countered.
even if taylor makes the proper corrections of his mistakes in the first fight, that only covers the first fight. hopkins has more to offer than what he brought in the first fight, he has more tricks that taylor isnt going to be ready for. he has a whole labyrinth of boxing skill, knowledge, and tactics.like an encyclopedia. all taylor has is a book about as intricate as " See Spot Run "
hopkins wins in a more challenging fight before the end of the 10th rd.
hopkins 10th rd tko/ko........
Actually the casual fan thinks Hopkins will crush Taylor in a rematch, at least the ones I've encountered. I post on this Hajime No Ippo (boxing anime) forum and those guys only very casually follow boxing. Every single one of them think Hopkins will come out much more aggressively, many think he'll knock Taylor out.
I won't be surprised of any outcome except Hopkins knocking Taylor out early. Right now I'm leaning toward Taylor, though I'm not confident at all.
Exactly, now that would be shocking.I mean when people say he will KO taylor,i dont see where theyre coming from considering hopkins isnt known as a KO guy.
I had such high hopes for you... :nonono:
You wanted to bet.
I'll bet 200 million points straight up.
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I had such high hopes for you... :nonono:
Honestly, Hopkins will KO this guy..
Taylor did nothing in the first fight, just throw a bunch of meaningless punches that did nothing..
He did not even outbox hopkins in a single round...
a gift decision?! against the #1 p4p guy? dont kid yourself,that shit dosent happen.
Yeah so, I'm not going to lower myself to stating random conspiracy theories....but think about it.
1.) Hopkins is not exactly a good friend of boxing's general establishment
2.) He just so happened to hold all the major MW belts
3.) Taylor is new blood.
Taylor was supposed to give in the late rounds,thats what hopkins was counting on,as always,and to a degree this did happen,but not nearly to the extent Hop needed it to.
I thought he gave enough for Hopkins to win the fight.
Hop may be more agressive but i doubt it'll be to his advantge,he'd have to keep that pace 12 rounds,which really he isnt use to.
Hopkins best shot is to be agressive. He had trouble trying to potshot Taylor from the outside.
Hopkins is used to fighting the entire 12 rounds. Watch his fights with Echols, Holmes, Mercado 1, Johnson etc. Even though the Johnson fight did not go the distance. He can be as busy as anyone on the inside.
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i find it strange that taylor is the money odds underdog.just like i found it strange wklit was underdog.
i know vegas uses offshore box to set their odds but i sort of smell a skunky smell here(and i don't mean cannabis indica.)
well don't matter. just more money for me to win!!
and corrales being rated underdog...i love it!!!
i love that smell.
Corrales is the favorite, i dont know where you get your odds
I still cant believe a judge gave taylor round 12, just dont get it.
He was trying to make up for giving Hopkins 2 early rounds that no one else did. Of course Hopkins doesn't mention that when he talks about the crappy scoring.
a gift decision?! against the #1 p4p guy? dont kid yourself,that shit dosent happen.
Hopkins didnt fight that fight any diffrent than his previous fights,Taylor was supposed to give in the late rounds,thats what hopkins was counting on,as always,and to a degree this did happen,but not nearly to the extent Hop needed it to.He also fought a green Taylor,but taylors past that now,Im sure he'll beat Hop,that only way i see hop winning is if he get a gift decision.
Hop may be more agressive but i doubt it'll be to his advantge,he'd have to keep that pace 12 rounds,which really he isnt use to.
ARE YOU BRITTISH?
the only thing on the line is Taylor, how the hell is hopkins legacy on the line thats just absurd, probably one of the most pathetic things I have heard in awhile!
It is absurd, but what happens now does have a say in how a fighters career is viewed. Look at RJJ and his last 3 fights. Some now look at those fights and downgrade his whole career because of that. The same will happen with Hopkins if he loses the rematch. Hopkins and RJJ both were supreme at a time when no serious rivalries were there to boost their careers (this wasn't anytihng like the Hagler/Leonard/Hearns/Duran era LOL).
It doesn't matter if it's fair or not, that's the way it is.
Do you think he will be less tentative against Taylor this time around? I personally think so. The average fan seems to be under the impression that he is solely limited to boxing from the outside....and does not posess the ability to mix it up on the inside.
Sure buddies. Keep telling yourselves that. Taylor might need to remember he is dealing with one of the most diverse pugilists to ever fight in this division, as well as one of the best INSIDE fighters.
This rematch means alot to me....because if Taylor wins LEGITIMATELY this time.....I will obviously give him due credit. As it stands...he recieved a gift decision in a fight where he was outlanded and outboxed by the craftier fighter.
a gift decision?! against the #1 p4p guy? dont kid yourself,that shit dosent happen.
Hopkins didnt fight that fight any diffrent than his previous fights,Taylor was supposed to give in the late rounds,thats what hopkins was counting on,as always,and to a degree this did happen,but not nearly to the extent Hop needed it to.He also fought a green Taylor,but taylors past that now,Im sure he'll beat Hop,that only way i see hop winning is if he get a gift decision.
Hop may be more agressive but i doubt it'll be to his advantge,he'd have to keep that pace 12 rounds,which really he isnt use to.
I already know Hopkins is going to beat him and make him look horrible this time around so I'm not even worried about this fight for Hopkins.
ONCE AGAIN AMEN BROTHER!