Lennox Lewis is probably the strongest heavyweight to grace the ring... All his opponents have explained his natural strength.
Lennox Lewis had more power than Wlad, Lennox has time and time again showed us that he's a one punch knock out artist at the top level!
Lewis showed more heart in the Vitali/Morrison/Briggs fights than Wlad has ever shown.
Lewis is quicker than people think with that jab... He's quicker than Wlad.
Wlad has stamina problems... See his Brewster fight.
Wlad has mental flaws... He's worried about getting knocked out and is currently building his confidence back fight by fight.
At the end of the day... Lennox Lewis dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, he unified it! There's no reason to suspect that Wlad will even become the linear champ yet, let alone dominate the division for any length of time.
When you're are the champ, the level of competition you mix in is that much higher than when you are a fringe contender.
Lennox Lewis took everyone they could throw at him and beat them. Guys like Sam Peter would have been lucky to get themselves into a position to even challenge Lewis.
Lewis would have walked through Wlad the way he walked through Golota or Grant.
one big inaccuracy. lewis was not quicker than wlad. wlad has the quicker hands and its harder with the left hook and jab. lewis;s right hand was a bit heavier. lewis had a betyer chin and defense
Lewis' chin was not that bad at all. I think Wlad's chin is pretty f**king bad, but not quite as bad as people make it out. He took some good shots from Peter.
Really? And tell me, please, what other heavies out there could have taken that Peter power shot and shake it off like Wlad did?
In my opinion, the left hook that Wlad caught in the 5th round (might be the 3rd, not sure) Peter fight and recovered from would have KO'd Lewis. Because if a Rachman right hand can KO him, you know damn well that a Peter power shot would.
Lennox Lewis is probably the strongest heavyweight to grace the ring... All his opponents have explained his natural strength.
Lennox Lewis had more power than Wlad, Lennox has time and time again showed us that he's a one punch knock out artist at the top level!
Lewis showed more heart in the Vitali/Morrison/Briggs fights than Wlad has ever shown.
Lewis is quicker than people think with that jab... He's quicker than Wlad.
Wlad has stamina problems... See his Brewster fight.
Wlad has mental flaws... He's worried about getting knocked out and is currently building his confidence back fight by fight.
At the end of the day... Lennox Lewis dominated the heavyweight division for nearly a decade, he unified it! There's no reason to suspect that Wlad will even become the linear champ yet, let alone dominate the division for any length of time.
When you're are the champ, the level of competition you mix in is that much higher than when you are a fringe contender.
Lennox Lewis took everyone they could throw at him and beat them. Guys like Sam Peter would have been lucky to get themselves into a position to even challenge Lewis.
Lewis would have walked through Wlad the way he walked through Golota or Grant.
lewis had stamina issue's as well especially when he had to actually fight and not just stand infront of someone and throw his jab or 1,2 combination he always threw. His chin was also suspect especially when he got careless which was in most of his fights he would play around in front of you and then get hit. Lewis was in a heavyweight division with smaller heavyweights unlike today where they are all big men. I dont see Lewis even lasting 8 round with Wlad he has too much athleticism for Lewis, more power and more heart all the things that would make him prevail over Lewis
Wlad would knock the shit out of Lennox Lewis??? :haha:
I'm sorry fella... LOL!... But how long have you been watching boxing?:D
what skills did lennox posses that wlad doesnt? Wlad has more power, more heart, probably more speed, maybe not as much stamina but even thats questionable until fight night to see who was in better physical and mental shape. Wlad has and alway had more athleticism than Lewis had in his whole career so you tell me why you feel different.
lewis has the better chin but definately doesnt have as much heart as wlad, so I would say if it came down to a real fight wlad would knock the shit out of lewis but as far as chin individually Lewis has a better one.
I don't get this comment. Where does everyone get this weird idea that Wlad has more heart than Lewis? I mean, yeah, he keeps trying when he's hurt, but when did Lewis ever give up, or just mail it in, or get intimidated and beatdown? Uh, like never?
Who cares man?
The bottom line is that these two so called "china chins" got/will go much farther ahead then their "iron chin" counterparts...
So really what does it matter in the end?
Id rather have skills over chin...having a good chin is just a good bonus.
however, wlad has a million times more heart than lewis ever had.I don't get this comment. Where does everyone get this weird idea that Wlad has more heart than Lewis? I mean, yeah, he keeps trying when he's hurt, but when did Lewis ever give up, or just mail it in, or get intimidated and beatdown? Uh, like never?
as weak as lennox's chin was, it wasnt as bad as wlad's. however, wlad has a million times more heart than lewis ever had. so i think wlad comes out ahead in this category.
i agree with torino on this subject. don't really believe too much in the concept of having a strong "chin" as boxers say.
too many variables contribute to knockdowns and knockouts to be purely calculatable. these include, at the time of a ko or kd, the fighters stamina, balance or position, punishment endured up to that point, seeing the punch coming, etc.
one thing you can't question about wladimir, however, is his heart and desire to box. how many other fighters would've endured as much shit as he took, and not be bitter about it?
Just the fact lennox got smashed by McCall and Rahman should prove his chin is crap.Saying that though I think Wlads chin is just as weak.
that;s what i thought
Some of your nut huggers have been taking too strong a dose of your delusional pills.
The point here is the threshold at wich a fighter becomes stunned.
Lewis was cold cocked by two great punches when stopped.
Wlad gets sent onto queer street much easier and much more frequently, loses his legs, and starts stepping in imaginary holes all over the ring.
This isn't even close.
Lewis had a much better chin than Wlad.
As usual, this topic has clearly hurt many feelings.
Typical.
why are your feeling hurt? about 99% of the board agrees that lewis had the better chin. relax
You guys seem to be very confused about chin.
Ever been knocked the fuck out?
I personaly was dazed out of my mind on a couple of occasions.
You have a good chin of you can control the "dazed" state, if you can see and when you have good situational awearnes when hit.
To me Wlad showed that he has good chin in the Sanders fight. Yes Sanders fight. He was rocked, I mean rocked, but he manged to beat the count everytime. To me that shows that he has a decent chin. How many fighters do you know that will manage to stand up after being knocked down as hard and as many times as Wlad in the Sanders fight.
Heart has nothing to do with being able to stand up from a punch. Heart is your will to fight, when your exhausted and beat up, you cant see out of either eye but you still go and fight. Thats heart.
If you get dropped on the canvas your heart has no say over your chin. Just because you want to fight it doesnt mean that the "buzz" is going to go away.
I personaly believe that heart has nothing to do with chin or being knocked down. Being knocked the fuck out is a physical state, having heart is purely phsycological and one doesnt affect the other. This is not yoga, this is boxing.
To many people rate chins out of 10.
Chin can only be rated as follows:
A never get knocked down
B you get knocked down and stand up and finish the fight
C you get knocked down and stay down
Now to the original question...its a toss. Wlad beat the count everytime he was knocked down.
Lennox got hit by bombs and wasnt dropped, but he did go down and never go up...youve obviously not seen the mccall fight, lewis was up on his feet at 6.
Some of your nut huggers have been taking too strong a dose of your delusional pills.
The point here is the threshold at wich a fighter becomes stunned.
Lewis was cold cocked by two great punches when stopped.
Wlad gets sent onto queer street much easier and much more frequently, loses his legs, and starts stepping in imaginary holes all over the ring.
This isn't even close.
Lewis had a much better chin than Wlad.
As usual, this topic has clearly hurt many feelings.
Typical.
Lennox was cleanly KOed twice.
Wlad has not been KOed but was KDd many times.
Who has a better chin?
Lewis has definitely got the better chin, Wlad always gets shaken but Lewis has only been hurt by bombs. You only have to see the amount of shots he was taking from the big punching Vitali to see his chin is solid.
You guys seem to be very confused about chin.
Ever been knocked the fuck out?
I personaly was dazed out of my mind on a couple of occasions.
You have a good chin of you can control the "dazed" state, if you can see and when you have good situational awearnes when hit.
To me Wlad showed that he has good chin in the Sanders fight. Yes Sanders fight. He was rocked, I mean rocked, but he manged to beat the count everytime. To me that shows that he has a decent chin. How many fighters do you know that will manage to stand up after being knocked down as hard and as many times as Wlad in the Sanders fight.
Heart has nothing to do with being able to stand up from a punch. Heart is your will to fight, when your exhausted and beat up, you cant see out of either eye but you still go and fight. Thats heart.
If you get dropped on the canvas your heart has no say over your chin. Just because you want to fight it doesnt mean that the "buzz" is going to go away.
I personaly believe that heart has nothing to do with chin or being knocked down. Being knocked the fuck out is a physical state, having heart is purely phsycological and one doesnt affect the other. This is not yoga, this is boxing.
To many people rate chins out of 10.
Chin can only be rated as follows:
A never get knocked down
B you get knocked down and stand up and finish the fight
C you get knocked down and stay down
Now to the original question...its a toss. Wlad beat the count everytime he was knocked down.
Lennox got hit by bombs and wasnt dropped, but he did go down and never go up...
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