For some reason I dont understand those of you who are picking Peter to win the fight. You're missing the point here.
The outcome of this fight is not upon Peter.. Peter can bring his A+ game plan and he will, and that won't win the fight for him. Peter has ZERO skills, nothing that could compared to Wlad's, or any top 15 boxer.
The outcome of this fight will rely on whether Wlad can pull himself back together.
As a boxer, he is head and shoulders over Peter (no pun intended)
So if Wlad can pull the same performance he was showing in the last millennium, or not this will be the determining factor.
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To assess what I'm saying here: it is not really up to Peter to KO Wlad, but will Wlad allow himself to be kayoable?
What a stupid thread.
If Peter comes in and tears through Wlad, Peter wins because HE makes it happen.
This talk about Wlad being some kind of "Reluctant All time Great" who's just been kept down is non sense.
The guy has size speed and talent, but he's been DERAILED by very meidocre opponents.
That speaks for itself.
He's a guy with a lot of tools, who's shown he can be vulnerable and inconsistant.
You talk like fate is agaisnt him and if he loses it will be some kind of divine intervention holding the man down.
COME OFF IT.
He's a big guy who has good speed and fundementals from his extensive experience, but he's also a notorious choaker who's lost several times to very meidocre opposition.
If he loses, it's because he LOST TO THE BETTER MAN.
And if the BETTER MEN then him continue to be meidocre, old, or limited fighters, that says volumes about the callibur of fighter Wlad ultimatly is.
This non sense some of you come up with slays me.
*Stands and applauds.*
Will you can say that about every HW today. He beat the crap out of Bird.
I don't see 100's of threads nut hugging and making excuses for those other Heavyweights you mention.
What a stupid thread.
If Peter comes in and tears through Wlad, Peter wins because HE makes it happen.
This talk about Wlad being some kind of "Reluctant All time Great" who's just been kept down is non sense.
The guy has size speed and talent, but he's been DERAILED by very meidocre opponents.
That speaks for itself.
He's a guy with a lot of tools, who's shown he can be vulnerable and inconsistant.
You talk like fate is agaisnt him and if he loses it will be some kind of divine intervention holding the man down.
COME OFF IT.
He's a big guy who has good speed and fundementals from his extensive experience, but he's also a notorious choaker who's lost several times to very meidocre opposition.
If he loses, it's because he LOST TO THE BETTER MAN.
And if the BETTER MEN then him continue to be meidocre, old, or limited fighters, that says volumes about the callibur of fighter Wlad ultimatly is.
This non sense some of you come up with slays me.
You see Vitali, Ike Ibeabuchi, Toney & Tua will not fall. All 4 has proven enough that they can take a great punch.
not sure about toney bro.
he hasn't proven it to me...
hes faced holyfield (SHIT), booker (WHO)
and ruiz (jus sad)
so he hasn't taken on a big puncher yet. if he takes on kirk johnson, or brewster or sumin, il give him his props then
No Boxer can put up with the amount of punishment Wlad can demonstrate...
Brewster has a granite chin... and Wlad just punched himself out..
Would he have pasted himself properly, Brewster would have gone down in the next 2-3 rounds. This is the same Brewster who dropped Golota in the first 1 min.. was Wlad's punching bag for 4 rounds. At that time Wlad just started with Stewart and I guess the two took a while to click. (or maybe not, remains to be seen)
(Mad props to Brewsters Heart of course)
Wlad is a VERY skilled boxer who has one of the best offence skills...
He can easily outbox Peter for 12 rounds keeping himself away and getting a "so easy" decision..
So the outcome is in Wlad's destiny
That doesnt make sense. Just because those guys hit hard doesnt mean they have a chin. We dont know if Peter has a chin or not yet. We will after Saturday night.
lmfao.
Are you saying Ray Mercer had a suspect chin?
Stop here before you get embarrassed.
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That doesnt make sense. Just because those guys hit hard doesnt mean they have a chin. We dont know if Peter has a chin or not yet. We will after Saturday night.
Again,
who cares if Peter has a chin.. The Wlad that he once was would have finished him with, or without a chin...
The question is: Is Wlad Back, or did he loose it for good?!
How is anyone who picks Peter to win retarded?
I was just exxagerating...
I meant the people that think Peter is the next Ike or Tyson are retarded IMO...
If he becomes that great, you can all laugh in my face.
That doesnt make sense. Just because those guys hit hard doesnt mean they have a chin. We dont know if Peter has a chin or not yet. We will after Saturday night.
Well, you're saying Peter will win if he lands a lucky punch?
So Peter must have luck to win this fight...
Peter is a ONE dimensional bum fighting BUMS!!!
Anyone whos picks Peter to win is RETARDED!!!!
Peter is a overrated bum, fights bums, outboxed nobody, slow, fat, overconfident
I hope Peter gets KTFO!!!!
How is anyone who picks Peter to win retarded?
Well then why are you acting like the only way Peter can win is if Wlad "can pull himself back together"?
Because Wlad has knocked out guys who hit equally as hard....or harder than Samuel Peter.
IE Ray Mercer.
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Well, you're saying Peter will win if he lands a lucky punch?
So Peter must have luck to win this fight...
Peter is a ONE dimensional bum fighting BUMS!!!
Anyone whos picks Peter to win is RETARDED!!!!
Peter is a overrated bum, fights bums, outboxed nobody, slow, fat, overconfident
I hope Peter gets KTFO!!!!
i can't argue with you, but i won't say peter has 'zero' skills. he's just too young, i think once he developes his feet a little more he'll be really really scary. but i couldn't contest that a peter v. klitchsko meeting may be a bit of a rushed one on peter's part. but the fact that there's still a possibility of peter winning with such a lack of 'real' experience doesn't speak very highly of wladmir. and perhaps rightfully so.
Peter just has to land one solid power punch and Wlad will fall.'G' really?
I didn't know that :rolleyes:
In a HW division if most* heavies get a solid shot, most** will fall
* - Any Heavy with a power punch
** - Any heavy w/o the granite chin