Floyd vs. Roid

taylor didnt stand in front of chavez,,,chaves hunted his azz down in that fight ,,ur talkin bout da last round cuz taylor couldnt move at that point from all da punishment he took,,during the fight taylor stuck an tried to move but chavez was relentless an hunted his azz down,,,but why was he able to do dat ,,,cuz taylor wasnt technical he was jus fast,,,so wen u said he standed there in da last round ,,,of course he did if a mack truck take dat much damage it aint gonna move eitha,,an i agree wit da fat dallas cowboy,,,u gotta try an compare the two at their prime u cant say the roy of now,,the man is old but we all get old,,but in his prime he was jus athletic dats it,,,if the competition would have been beta in his prime,,he woulda got exposed a long time ago,,,a long time ago,,the man is not a technical fighter,,period,,,now without a doubt if mayweathers competition was better he might get exposed too,,but thats yet to be seen,,,cuz he is still undefeated and considered best p4p in the world,,,but u can bet on one thing he's fast,,an he's got great technique,,,the technique which roy has always lacked... lou duva was recorded on tape telling taylor to press on the final round. all taylor needed to do was hop on the bicycle and he would have won and if chavez got close just clinch. but his corner made it seem there was some sort of urgency and taylor obliged. and meldrick was not on his toes throughout the fight..there were spurts during the match where he just stood in front of chavez and did a 'give and take'. he was always known to be too much of a philly fighter for his own good. as far as roy we went up with 'technical' fighters such as a 29 year old bernard hopkins (who later became the middle weight king), the current pound for pound champ at the time with james toney, and ring great Mike Macallum...

same ole an how u gonna say roy would tag him wit a lead left hook,,errybody says corrales is da most devestating puncher in boxing wen he fought floyd,,floyd the man u say ot no power floored his azz several times,,,now mayweathers ko's are by attrition,,,but roy wouldnt land solid cuz speed cancel out speed,,,and than u gotta go wit beta defense an the reflex of roy is defense but mayweathers defense isnt jus reflexes he's too more complete than roy on defense,,,errytime floyd fight a puncher they say he gonna get ko'd an always the oppoisite happen,,,,get off that power shyt ,,noone has touched floyds chin,,an if dey skimmed it he took it,,erry puncher floyds fought has gotten knocked out by floyd,,,gatti would have gotten stretched too if they let dat fight continue....lotta haters towards floyd before gatti fight alot of niccas said yea gatti got a chance he can do it,,,"""you can do it""",,,than when he dominated cuz floyd had said he was a paper champion people who said gatti was gonna win now said ohhhh floyd beat a paper champion so dat wasnt shyt,,,errytime he fight its gonna be the same till he loses,,,than these same fools who were 0 for 40 predicting mayweathers fights gonna say ,,,see i told u that guy was gonna beat him....

dame as befo taylor didnt stand in front of chavez,,,chaves hunted his azz down in that fight ,,ur talkin bout da last round cuz taylor couldnt move at that point from all da punishment he took,,during the fight taylor stuck an tried to move but chavez was relentless an hunted his azz down,,,but why was he able to do dat ,,,cuz taylor wasnt technical he was jus fast,,,so wen u said he standed there in da last round ,,,of course he did if a mack truck take dat much damage it aint gonna move eitha,,an i agree wit da fat dallas cowboy,,,u gotta try an compare the two at their prime u cant say the roy of now,,the man is old but we all get old,,but in his prime he was jus athletic dats it,,,if the competition would have been beta in his prime,,he woulda got exposed a long time ago,,,a long time ago,,the man is not a technical fighter,,period,,,now without a doubt if mayweathers competition was better he might get exposed too,,but thats yet to be seen,,,cuz he is still undefeated and considered best p4p in the world,,,but u can bet on one thing he's fast,,an he's got great technique,,,the technique which roy has always lacked...

]] ============= No he didn't. Floyd don't even want to go to England now which is where the most money in his career is. What makes you think he wanted to go to England for less? What Floyd did do was get his feet wet in the division against contenders. I never saw him call out anyone but maybe that ridiculous challenge to Oscar and the more ridiculous challenge to Winky that he punked out on. Well, Floyd got brave, sort of, and after backing out finally made the Gatti fight and you guys creamed.

You're comparing Floyd to Toney? That is a stupid fucking joke.

I don't think this fight is worth talking about because Mayweather is much smaller than Roy. Thats like saying who would win Vitali vs. Winky Wright?LOL:D

lol I pick Floyd! A heavy rainfall could knock Roy out now. How can you pick Floyd based on what Roy looks like now...that''s about stupid if there ever was such a thing. This is a p4p matchup, based on styles. Like I said, Roy fought one man who had a similar style to Floyd, and won every round. For those of you questioning Roy's defense, either you are a hard-core Floyd fan, Roy hater, or just have no clue what you are talking about (perhaps as a result of not seeing Roy in his prime). In his prime (which is where this matchup takes place, or have yall forgotten) Roy's defense was great. Simply put, the measure of one's defense is how often they are able to avoid getting hit cleanly. It's not based on any "textbook". Roy's ability to dodge punches (yes, that means defense) was as good or better than Floyd's. In no way was his ability to dodge punches throughout the fight lesser than Floyd's ability. If you want to pick Floyd, do it on merit, not because of some dumb-assed assumption that Roy's defense is not good due to his recent downfall att he age of 35.

I pick Floyd! A heavy rainfall could knock Roy out now.

]] ======================== Spare me violins and hankies for Floyd. Hatton only fights in England and never expressed any desire to fight in America until after the KT victory. Floyd was never going to England to fight Hatton for his goofy WBU belt, and Hatton wasn't the MAN, that was KT. Have you ever even watched a boxing match or at least kept up with the results? No, I never saw a boxing game before? I too poor to use teh boxing, man. Notice in my post that I said he went after the man who is now the man. I didn't say Hatton was the man when Floyd first entered 140lbs. I simply said he went after Hatton.

When RJJ was still king, everybody was talking about his superior skills. It wasn't until he slowed that the flaws became very evident. PBF looked quite mortal against Castillo and his technical flaws will become evident in a few years as the speed goes away. That stupid peekaboo shoulder defense isn't going to cut it when he slows down LOL. In fact, Hatton will steamroll right through that. PBF's last 5 opponents are Sosa, N'dou, Corley, Bruseles and Gatti. These should be his peak years fighting the top dogs. Very sad for PBF. By this stage of his career RJJ had fought Hopkins and Toney and McCallum and had a legacy already. Guys like SRL were taking superfights and challenging the best in every division they moved to. PBF is a super talent, going to waste. Step it up, sonny. You don't make my #1 P4P. That's reserved for fighters that earn it inside the ring.

Roy is a great fighter but heavily flawed from a technical standpoint. Floyd is more of a traditional boxer, more or less just as physically talented as Roy. If this were a fight based strictly on styles, then I for one would assume they were the same size. I think if this were the case, the speed would be more or less equal, the only difference being that Roy puts himself in akward positions because he shoots from every angle. I think it would be a very boring fight, but I pick Floyd to win.

This is why i hardly post anymore cuz its idiots that dont know boxin that do the most talkin,,,first an foremost an the most important point is that roy was a winner for such a long time cuz he's an athleitc fighter,,but technically he's not good,,his athletisism has helped him to where he is today,,,now when u look at floyd ,,,floyd is athletic too but he's technically sound,,,ill give u an example,,,when chavez fought meldrick taylor ,,taylor was light years faster than chavez way more athletic but what happened in that fight he got ko'd in the last round with 2 seconds left ,,,an why,,cuz he wasnt technically sound,,,he took too much punishment,,,so coming back to roy vs floyd,,i think roy is getting old,,,he's losing the thing that made him a champion the athletisism so than he lost to tarver and than to that bum ,,,why cuz he's not technically sound,,floyd would beat roy easily he's just as fast if not faster,,,so with that cancelled out ,,,who's the better boxer,,floyd without a doubt ,,technically superior to roy... LOL...taylor lost to chavez because he pressed chavez in the 12th round. he was winning by a land slide on all three judges. that fight had nothing to do with technique but more of strategy...and meldrick taylor stood in front of chavez when he didn't have to. that fight does not even parallel roy and floyd as both are boxers. very different. plus one boxer is unorthodox with power and speed who fights best at a distance while the other is a slickster in the insaide who likes to shoulder roll. and they both like to feint and counter punch. hardly a Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez comparison

Boooooo Yaaaaaaa This is why i hardly post anymore cuz its idiots that dont know boxin that do the most talkin,,,first an foremost an the most important point is that roy was a winner for such a long time cuz he's an athleitc fighter,,but technically he's not good,,his athletisism has helped him to where he is today,,,now when u look at floyd ,,,floyd is athletic too but he's technically sound,,,ill give u an example,,,when chavez fought meldrick taylor ,,taylor was light years faster than chavez way more athletic but what happened in that fight he got ko'd in the last round with 2 seconds left ,,,an why,,cuz he wasnt technically sound,,,he took too much punishment,,,so coming back to roy vs floyd,,i think roy is getting old,,,he's losing the thing that made him a champion the athletisism so than he lost to tarver and than to that bum ,,,why cuz he's not technically sound,,floyd would beat roy easily he's just as fast if not faster,,,so with that cancelled out ,,,who's the better boxer,,floyd without a doubt ,,technically superior to roy...

Jones & PBF are qual in just about every area except power where Roy would be able to catch him with some serious counter punches. Roy defense is very underrated because of his natural gifts. In Jones prime he could roll punches just as easy as dodging them. I would favor Roy to win by decision or possibly a late stoppage from a counter punch.

]] ======================== Spare me violins and hankies for Floyd. Hatton only fights in England and never expressed any desire to fight in America until after the KT victory. Floyd was never going to England to fight Hatton for his goofy WBU belt, and Hatton wasn't the MAN, that was KT. Have you ever even watched a boxing match or at least kept up with the results?

Oh yeah and just to add to my previous post. You do realize that Ray Leonard was always in the position to get those fights against the people he fought, because he was a big draw and everyone wanted to fight him.....kinda like how everyone wants to fight De La Hoya so De La Hoya can make just about any fight he chooses to make.

]] ======================== I don't care for Leonard, but he was vastly more exciting to watch and defeated stronger comp than Floyd will ever be able to dream of. Leonard was faster and had more offensive arsenal and a great defense. Leonard would not have pittypatted around in the 140 division like Floyd has. He always targeted the MAN. As far as any comparison to Roy goes, Roy is the vastly more talented fighter with a career Floyd is not likely to match. Floyd is talented with some good skills, but mentally he's sold himself short. He should be greater, but he ain't and it's all upstairs with him. Nothing wrong with Floyd. He's probably HOF lock by now, but he acts like beating Gatti was supposed to mean something big and now he's run off and hid again. Did you read the Interview with Hatton thread yet? HATTON WANTS FLOYD NEXT YEAR!!!!! HE SAID IT HIMSELF! NOT NOW, BUT IN 2006! With that said. When Floyd first came into 140lbs. he targeted Hatton, the man who is the man now. Hatton's people refused. So he went for Chop Chop. Now what's your argument?

]] ======================== I don't care for Leonard, but he was vastly more exciting to watch and defeated stronger comp than Floyd will ever be able to dream of. Leonard was faster and had more offensive arsenal and a great defense. Leonard would not have pittypatted around in the 140 division like Floyd has. He always targeted the MAN. As far as any comparison to Roy goes, Roy is the vastly more talented fighter with a career Floyd is not likely to match. Floyd is talented with some good skills, but mentally he's sold himself short. He should be greater, but he ain't and it's all upstairs with him. Nothing wrong with Floyd. He's probably HOF lock by now, but he acts like beating Gatti was supposed to mean something big and now he's run off and hid again.

Reflex is a defensive move, look at Ali!!! Agreed. Not many people consider it to be a defensive move, but it is. Just like footwork is.

Mayweather can do everything Roy Jones can do and more. Floyd can fight in the pocket or on the outside. His defense rules the day in this one. Mayweather by decision.