I've had it with Boxrec P4P, it's a joke!

They probably just do a quality of opposition ranking like in college ball. So they'll look at the records of the fighters they beat and then maybe go one level further, and look at the records of the fighters that these fighters beat. Of course this method has a number of limitations. For example, De La Hoya would look like gold because of his wins of Cesar Chavez, though I think most people would agree that these were neither career defining nor even all that impressive victories. Also, if you take out an up-and-comer early in his career it won't reflect that well on you, cause the guy hasn't had the time to rack up all that many Ws. So if Hopkins had beaten Taylor, for example, if wouldn't have counted for much because Taylor's opposition up to that point had been pretty lousy, even though Taylor was his toughest test in years. Look at Klitschko's record carefully. None of his Ws are against big-name opponents. He probably gets most of his ranking off of the Danny Williams win, since Danny beat Tyson. Thats boxrec'c figure... evebody what's the real score. I just visit boxrec for checking some fighter's record and I think the site is accurate on that one (correct me if Im wrong people)...

I need to know what formula they use to have Rahman and Ruiz well ahead of Vitali. They probably just do a quality of opposition ranking like in college ball. So they'll look at the records of the fighters they beat and then maybe go one level further, and look at the records of the fighters that these fighters beat. Of course this method has a number of limitations. For example, De La Hoya would look like gold because of his wins of Cesar Chavez, though I think most people would agree that these were neither career defining nor even all that impressive victories. Also, if you take out an up-and-comer early in his career it won't reflect that well on you, cause the guy hasn't had the time to rack up all that many Ws. So if Hopkins had beaten Taylor, for example, if wouldn't have counted for much because Taylor's opposition up to that point had been pretty lousy, even though Taylor was his toughest test in years. Look at Klitschko's record carefully. None of his Ws are against big-name opponents. He probably gets most of his ranking off of the Danny Williams win, since Danny beat Tyson.

www.boxrec.com scroll down till you see p4p on the bottom right the message you have entered...

link?? please Were did this P4P list come from?

I need to know what formula they use to have Rahman and Ruiz well ahead of Vitali. no kidding, its just crazy

I need to know what formula they use to have Rahman and Ruiz well ahead of Vitali.

Boxrec's all time ratings are even more puzzling but they deserve immense credit for constantly updating their records. We are very fortunate to have this free service. Thank you boxrec!

Lb 4 Lb Just because Taylor beat Hopkins it does NOT justify him being rated so highly. People dont realize..pound for pound doesnt have to do with WHO you beat exactly as much as how well you fight. Winning a fight doesnt always mean you are as talented, sharp etc as even the guy you beat

At least Byrd's not number 1 anymore!:D Chris Byrd is put in as the highest number 1 Heavyweight at #9, thats not right

Lb for Lb 1 Marco Antonio Barrera Super Featherweight 2 Jermain Taylor Middleweight 3 Bernard Hopkins Middleweight 4 Ronald Wright Middleweight 5 Manny Pacquiao Super Featherweight 6 Diego Corrales Lightweight 7 Ricky Hatton Light Welterweight 8 Floyd Mayweather Jr Light Welterweight 9 Chris Byrd Heavyweight 10 Oscar Larios Super Bantamweight 11 Zab Judah Welterweight 12 John Ruiz Heavyweight 13 Kostya Tszyu Light Welterweight 14 Shane Mosley Light Middleweight 15 Roman Karmazin Light Middleweight 16 Antonio Tarver Light Heavyweight 17 Jose Luis Castillo Lightweight 18 Juan Manuel Marquez Featherweight 19 Arthur Abraham Middleweight 20 Oscar De La Hoya Middleweight 21 Scott Harrison Featherweight 22 Hasim Rahman Heavyweight 23 Jeff Lacy Super Middleweight 24 Arturo Gatti Light Welterweight 25 Vitali Klitschko Heavyweight Morales not even in top 25? Barrera #1? LOL. Whatever formulas or computations they use for that shyt, this is unacceptable.If Morales is gonna be taken completely out of the top 25, then Raheem should be in top, 25 at least Roy Jones deserves to be in top 25 than Arturo Gatti

Pac's place seems close to if not accurate, so I don't give a shyt. BoxRec = OK! nyahahahaha!

That is crazy.....most of all Ruiz #12.LOL

Again, the computers makes all that shit and not a person. It is all based on their records and.... ITS COMPUTER DAMN IT.. get it?

rahman 22?? floyd at 8??? comical, what a pathetic website. it is just an absolutly TERRIBLE website for anything other than the concrete records of fighters. everything else is garbage I can say this, Floyd at least should be in top 3 cause hes listed as #1 in most, #8 is an insult

www.boxrec.com scroll down till you see p4p on the bottom right

Shane Mosley.... say what? Gatti at 24 and no Barrios? Yawn.

Lb for Lb 1 Marco Antonio Barrera Super Featherweight 2 Jermain Taylor Middleweight 3 Bernard Hopkins Middleweight 4 Ronald Wright Middleweight 5 Manny Pacquiao Super Featherweight 6 Diego Corrales Lightweight 7 Ricky Hatton Light Welterweight 8 Floyd Mayweather Jr Light Welterweight 9 Chris Byrd Heavyweight 10 Oscar Larios Super Bantamweight 11 Zab Judah Welterweight 12 John Ruiz Heavyweight 13 Kostya Tszyu Light Welterweight 14 Shane Mosley Light Middleweight 15 Roman Karmazin Light Middleweight 16 Antonio Tarver Light Heavyweight 17 Jose Luis Castillo Lightweight 18 Juan Manuel Marquez Featherweight 19 Arthur Abraham Middleweight 20 Oscar De La Hoya Middleweight 21 Scott Harrison Featherweight 22 Hasim Rahman Heavyweight 23 Jeff Lacy Super Middleweight 24 Arturo Gatti Light Welterweight 25 Vitali Klitschko Heavyweight Morales not even in top 25? Barrera #1? LOL. Whatever formulas or computations they use for that shyt, this is unacceptable. link?? please

damn. you werent kidin' didnt they have MORALES #1 before the fight w/raheem?

Lb for Lb 1 Marco Antonio Barrera Super Featherweight 2 Jermain Taylor Middleweight 3 Bernard Hopkins Middleweight 4 Ronald Wright Middleweight 5 Manny Pacquiao Super Featherweight 6 Diego Corrales Lightweight 7 Ricky Hatton Light Welterweight 8 Floyd Mayweather Jr Light Welterweight 9 Chris Byrd Heavyweight 10 Oscar Larios Super Bantamweight 11 Zab Judah Welterweight 12 John Ruiz Heavyweight 13 Kostya Tszyu Light Welterweight 14 Shane Mosley Light Middleweight 15 Roman Karmazin Light Middleweight 16 Antonio Tarver Light Heavyweight 17 Jose Luis Castillo Lightweight 18 Juan Manuel Marquez Featherweight 19 Arthur Abraham Middleweight 20 Oscar De La Hoya Middleweight 21 Scott Harrison Featherweight 22 Hasim Rahman Heavyweight 23 Jeff Lacy Super Middleweight 24 Arturo Gatti Light Welterweight 25 Vitali Klitschko Heavyweight Morales not even in top 25? Barrera #1? LOL. Whatever formulas or computations they use for that shyt, this is unacceptable. LMAO, that is a FUCKED up list.

rahman 22?? floyd at 8??? comical, what a pathetic website. it is just an absolutly TERRIBLE website for anything other than the concrete records of fighters. everything else is garbage