when pac fought for the first time at 130, he went up against the best and he fought toe-to-toe, bloodied and all
when morales fought for the first time at 135, he went up against a nobody and SUCKED THE FUCK UP!!!!
Morales is as good as dead in ta rematch. Pacman said it himself that he'll knock him out!
I get scared when Pac says things like that! Scared fo MOrales that is!
Morales is trying to be like SUGAR RAY LEONARD or DELA HOYA w/c he is not, 135lbs is too much for him i think... or maybe he wants to get FLOYD MAYWEATHER but i doubt if he can handle FLOYD... Morales era is near the ending point while PAC-MAN is in his prime of his career, this rematch will be another turning point for PAC-MANs career... and morales will suffer his 2nd straight loss... MABUHAY ANG PILIPINO!!!
NOOOOO WAY! NOOOO WAY! *George Foreman on Vitali vs Lewis*
anywayz, Czar made a good point. It may sound harsh, but man it holds sum truth in it.
Ight yo check it. We all believe that Pac's stretching it and shoulnt be at 130lbs division right? 126 is betta fo him. YET, he's got a very close fight wit Morales (deservin rematch) and an impressive TKO win ova Velasquez. Still, Pac should stay at 126lbs.
Now Erik Morales moved up where people now say he shouldnt be at 135lbs! How did he do at ta divison where he shoulnt stay long fo???? He got :PWNED badly! 11-1 rounds in ma books. And gainst who? Zaheer, who isn't up until that night was nowhere on top20 P4P list!
Pac at 130lbs where it aint his best weight: Close loss to Morales and a huge impressive TKO win ova Velasquez. Future remtach wit Morales = Pacman by TKO!!!!!!
Morales at 135 where it aint his best weight: PWNAGE from Raheem 11-1 into a UD. If anotha fight at 135lbs, I'll assume Morales loses to Corrales by KO or even to Castillo!
somehow somebody understood my point
why do you guys all think this dude raheem was a nobody? because you the casual boxing fan have never heard of him? thats kinda like lennox lewis..... he too was relativly unknown to the casual boxing fan. why? because noone would fight him. why? because he was too much of a threat. we can all sit here and try to say why erik lost but that doesn't make him any less of a fighter than anyone else out there. erik morales is a living legend and will be a legend when he is dead. he has beaten the best out there. one thing that has been mentioned in articles about his last fight rings true....he hasn't really faught any slick black american fighters. well it looks like its not the best idea for him to seek that out at this point cause he lost to one in his last fight. raheem is a former olympian so he has had skills for quite some time.now is manny better than morales? thats a childs question. At this point in the game its not somwthing that i feel can be answered. sure morales once and in my opinion did it in convincing fasion, but can he do it again? i think he can. i also think manny can beat erik but he would have to change alot to do so. we shall see come january. some of you manny fans are cracking me up with your logic on why manny is better than morales. pac-man has very mediocre skill at best. he is lightning fast and has power. he has stamina and fights with tons of aggression. i have noticed that the higher in wieght he goes all of these seem to deminish. i was very proud of manny for being able to turn the tides in his last fight against someone who seemed to have the ability to create an upset. both manny and morales are deserving of being called greats at this point. but morales will be rememberd as an alltime great. manny has more time as he is younger to establish himself as an alltime great.
i wish both of these guys the best in the rest of thier careers.
I never said he wasn't class...don't put words in my mouth.
The fact that Morales is HOF material sells it for me. Inside and outside the ring Morales is all class...he aint scared to fight anyone, and he fights the best, you gotta respect him for that.
And your argument about Manny not being able to see for half the fight is also piss poor. You just lost your credibility there, especially with all the VK - LL posts you did.
Anyways... Barrera beat Morales twice, and Morales beat Barrera once, Morales beat Pacman, Pacman beat Barrera. IMO, its too tough to call who's the "best" fighter in that weight class. And Morales also has better names he's beaten on his resume then el pacman.
PACMAN's on the peak of his career BRO... Morales is on the homestretch of his career...NOW, to decide who is the better man among the two... lets just wait for the Jan. 21 fight OK... by then, all of your questions will be answered
Come on your kidding yourself Chito, thats at least a stupid opinion, How many posters do you think are gonna agree Czars _Salad, this comment he made, Do you agree, Do you think a few people are gonna belittle his career cause one loss at a new weight class,
czar_salad isnt asking for any opinion man... he's just voicing his... and so is CHITO... so just voice out your opinion and stop making stupid comments.... hehehehehehe
PEACE
It's all about styles. Morales style will almost always beat Pac's style and Raheem's style will almost always beat Morales' style. Raheem's style even beats Pac in convincing fashion in my opinion.
NOOOOO WAY! NOOOO WAY! *George Foreman on Vitali vs Lewis*
anywayz, Czar made a good point. It may sound harsh, but man it holds sum truth in it.
Ight yo check it. We all believe that Pac's stretching it and shoulnt be at 130lbs division right? 126 is betta fo him. YET, he's got a very close fight wit Morales (deservin rematch) and an impressive TKO win ova Velasquez. Still, Pac should stay at 126lbs.
Now Erik Morales moved up where people now say he shouldnt be at 135lbs! How did he do at ta divison where he shoulnt stay long fo???? He got :PWNED badly! 11-1 rounds in ma books. And gainst who? Zaheer, who isn't up until that night was nowhere on top20 P4P list!
Pac at 130lbs where it aint his best weight: Close loss to Morales and a huge impressive TKO win ova Velasquez. Future remtach wit Morales = Pacman by TKO!!!!!!
Morales at 135 where it aint his best weight: PWNAGE from Raheem 11-1 into a UD. If anotha fight at 135lbs, I'll assume Morales loses to Corrales by KO or even to Castillo!
my point is this... when pac went up against morales who has used to 130. that was just pac's 1st fight. and he gave morales a hard night
remember pac was not even used to fighting at 126!
morales was used to fighting at 130 when pac went up against him. and although morales won, it was 7-5. again pac was not even riped for 126 yet he managed to fight the best at 130!
and how about morales, he dominated 130 and was already established. the same issue... he went a level higher, but the bout was a blowout! and he fought a not-so-established fighter. unlike when pac went up against him!!!!
get the point?
It's all about styles. Morales style will almost always beat Pac's style and Raheem's style will almost always beat Morales' style. Raheem's style even beats Pac in convincing fashion in my opinion.
when pac fought for the first time at 130, he went up against the best and he fought toe-to-toe, bloodied and all
when morales fought for the first time at 135, he went up against a nobody and SUCKED THE FUCK UP!!!!
absolutly ridiculous statement, morales got the better of pac when they went man to man
ok........ pac went up to 130, this is 135... theres a difference.
if pac goes up at 135, against corrales and castillo, hell get beaten as well.....
it wasn't that raheem did amazing, it was that morales sucked... 135 is way to big for him.... all he had was fat.....
i think all guys at 130 should avoid raheem... hes a smart boxer. n personally i htink if it was at 130, morales could have won
my point is this... when pac went up against morales who has used to 130. that was just pac's 1st fight. and he gave morales a hard night
remember pac was not even used to fighting at 126!
morales was used to fighting at 130 when pac went up against him. and although morales won, it was 7-5. again pac was not even riped for 126 yet he managed to fight the best at 130!
and how about morales, he dominated 130 and was already established. the same issue... he went a level higher, but the bout was a blowout! and he fought a not-so-established fighter. unlike when pac went up against him!!!!
get the point?
ok........ pac went up to 130, this is 135... theres a difference.
if pac goes up at 135, against corrales and castillo, hell get beaten as well.....
it wasn't that raheem did amazing, it was that morales sucked... 135 is way to big for him.... all he had was fat.....
i think all guys at 130 should avoid raheem... hes a smart boxer. n personally i htink if it was at 130, morales could have won
nah man. Raheem was fuckin spectacular last night. Did everything perfect. Morales dint suck, Raheem was jest Waaaay betta!
Pac won't and shoulnt go to 135lbs becuz he started at flyweight. Morales can take it cuz he started at super bantam!
when pac fought for the first time at 130, he went up against the best and he fought toe-to-toe, bloodied and all
when morales fought for the first time at 135, he went up against a nobody and SUCKED THE FUCK UP!!!!
ok........ pac went up to 130, this is 135... theres a difference.
if pac goes up at 135, against corrales and castillo, hell get beaten as well.....
it wasn't that raheem did amazing, it was that morales sucked... 135 is way to big for him.... all he had was fat.....
i think all guys at 130 should avoid raheem... hes a smart boxer. n personally i htink if it was at 130, morales could have won
All i can say is that they're both go0d... They deserve to be right where they are right now...
wow for a first post that is D_MN_D GOOD !!!
good karma coming your way ...
it's not hating i think, he's just voicing his opinion, bro. if he thinks morales is worse than pac, so be it. who's side you're on, man?
not hating? lmao. If Morales never would have beaten Pac, I doubt this thread ever would have been made.
when pac fought for the first time at 130, he went up against the best and he fought toe-to-toe, bloodied and all
when morales fought for the first time at 135, he went up against a nobody and SUCKED THE FUCK UP!!!!
I agree with you dude! He's just attempting SUISIDE...In his performance against Raheem..tsk tsk tsk!!! Can he hndle Chico or JLC? coz he plans to fight the winner of this 2 LW.