Anthony Logan (WBC Continental Americas Champion, battered Nigel Benn), Hugo Corti (WBC International Champion), Nigel Benn (WBO World Champion, WBC World Champion), Gary Stretch (British Champion, "better than Calzaghe" says the man who fought them both), Michael Watson (Commonwealth Champion), Thulane Malinga (WBC World Champion), Ronnie Essett (NABF Champion), Tony Thornton (USBA Champion), Lindell Holmes (IBF World Champion), Graciano Rocchigiani (IBF World Champion, WBC World Champion), Henry Wharton (British/Commonwealth/European Champion)
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The dude you quote has made so many classics that made me LOL, specially about how Lacy would knock out JC and could probably beat anyone ranging from Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones..
haha for real? what a fool
There is a term that is censored on this forum....but I will re-phrase it. It's called Eurogarbage. You see the guy in my avatar? He is the exception along with Lennox Lewis in not being classified in that way....because of their wins over quality opposition who fought in the United States of America.
Toney: "You're sloppy boy. You're European"
Says it all. Britain should stick to Cricket......for real.
On a general level....Hatton is semi acceptable having beaten a washed up fighter in Tszyu.....but when he faces a guy like PBF or Cotto. Forget about it.
hahaha what a thread to bump,look at the s**t spewing out of this guys mouth
I haven't actually ever seen Cordoba fight, was he any good? He probably wasn't in Eubank's class, but that's no shame.
A tricky southpaw if I remember rightly .. he was above average certainly but not as good as a Eubank or a Benn or a Toney or a RJjnr or a McLennan .. although Victor did do well against Nunn the first time and a draw would of been a fair result but we all know that Nunn was inconsistent since the Kalambay fight ..
Gary Stretch had good potential .. he came along as an unknown amateur and knocked out 67-0 George Collins and remember Collins was called "britain's best ever prospect" .. George Collins, yet another british talent who fell short bigtime, I really thought he would be great .. what the heck happened to that guy ..?
I just found the following on George Collins -
But to end on a cautionary tale of how it can all go wrong, let me tell you about George Collins.
Collins had 78 amateur fights, won 77 and was one of the best amateurs of the 1980s.
He turned pro at the age of 17, not unlike Amir who is 18, and everyone thought Collins was going to take the pro game by storm.
But Collins failed on the biggest stage and was finished by the age of 22.
However, Warren will have learned from the mistakes he made with Collins and develop Amir at the right pace.
from here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4683363.stm
Looking at Cordoba's record, Cordoba fought a lot of the same guys who Eubank fought such as Anthony Logan, Randy Smith, José Carlos Da Silva and Jean-Noel Camara.
And it says Cordoba was trained by Bernardo Checa - http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004293
And Bernardo Checa also trained Ray Close and Sam Storey - http://www.angelfire.com/on4/boxing/
Fucking hell, José Carlos Da Silva had his hands full didn't he??
He fought Victor Cordoba, Chris Eubank, Gerald McClellan, James Toney and Reggie Johnson all in a row: http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=070026
I remember Eubank was set to fight Victor Cordoba in France for the WBA title, that was until the public demanded that he rematched Watson and so Eubank pulled out of the Corboda fight at the last minute to give Watson the rematch that every body thought he deserved
Looking at Cordoba's record, Cordoba fought a lot of the same guys who Eubank fought such as Anthony Logan, Randy Smith, José Carlos Da Silva and Jean-Noel Camara.
I haven't actually ever seen Cordoba fight, was he any good? He probably wasn't in Eubank's class, but that's no shame.
And I remember after the Watson tragedy, Eubank retired from boxing. Nigel Benn and Michael Nunn were due to fight for Eubank's vacated WBO super-middleweight title in December 1991, but then at the last minute Eubank decide to carry on boxing and not retire, Benn and Nunn were pissed.
And Rod Douglas, what a shame .. people remember Watsons career being cut short but Rod Douglas was a huge prospect until Benn beat him .. I think Rod had 100+ wins in the amateurs with only four losses and won a Gold medal at the 1986 Commonwealth Games..
Rod won the ABA's in 83, 84, 85 and 87 .. he became the first man to ever beat the seemingly invincible Nigel Benn, doing so in the final of the West Ham divs in 85 .. in the West Ham divs final of 86 they met again, with Benn avenging his defeat by knocking down Douglas a few times and getting the win ..
Douglas' first ever loss came against Iran Barkley in the quarters of the world championships in 1982 .. but he then beat Michael Watson two yrs in a row at both the 83 and 84 West Ham divs finals and those who witnessed the Douglas vs. Watson amateur fights say that it was boxing of the very highest level .. Douglas's second loss had come at the 83 europeans final against some eastern european guy and he claimed that he was robbed .. and his fourth loss came when he was absolutely robbed against Shawn O'Sullivan at the 1984 Olympic Games ..
I really would love to see those legendary West Ham divs finals of 83, 84, 85 and 86 featuring Watson vs. Douglas in 83 and 84 finals, and Douglas vs. Benn in 85 and 86 finals .. anybody know if there is any footage anywhere ..??
I feel sorry for Douglas, he was the top boy for so long before Benn came along and owned him and then all the attention focused on Benn. Benn went on to dominate the ABA's in 86 (after getting rid of Douglas at the divs) live on the BBC and developed a big fan base, you know people always think back to Michael Watson as the guy who had his career cut short and the guy who was the one who didn't recieve the attention he deserved etc, but what about fucking Rod Douglas? He was shaping up to be real good in the pro's, but I think his people pushed him into the Herol Graham fight a little too quickly.
http://www.ko-kickboxing.com/Training/instructors/rod/roddouglas.jpg
And Rod Douglas, what a shame .. people remember Watsons career being cut short but Rod Douglas was a huge prospect until Benn beat him .. I think Rod had 100+ wins in the amateurs with only four losses and won a Gold medal at the 1986 Commonwealth Games..
Rod won the ABA's in 83, 84, 85 and 87 .. he became the first man to ever beat the seemingly invincible Nigel Benn, doing so in the final of the West Ham divs in 85 .. in the West Ham divs final of 86 they met again, with Benn avenging his defeat by knocking down Douglas a few times and getting the win ..
Douglas' first ever loss came against Iran Barkley in the quarters of the world championships in 1982 .. but he then beat Michael Watson two yrs in a row at both the 83 and 84 West Ham divs finals and those who witnessed the Douglas vs. Watson amateur fights say that it was boxing of the very highest level .. Douglas's second loss had come at the 83 europeans final against some eastern european guy and he claimed that he was robbed .. and his fourth loss came when he was absolutely robbed against Shawn O'Sullivan at the 1984 Olympic Games ..
I really would love to see those legendary West Ham divs finals of 83, 84, 85 and 86 featuring Watson vs. Douglas in 83 and 84 finals, and Douglas vs. Benn in 85 and 86 finals .. anybody know if there is any footage anywhere ..??
what the heck is Gary Stretch doing on that list?
Gary Stretch had good potential .. he came along as an unknown amateur and knocked out 67-0 George Collins and remember Collins was called "britain's best ever prospect" .. George Collins, yet another british talent who fell short bigtime, I really thought he would be great .. what the heck happened to that guy ..?
I remember the Benn vs. Watson fight in 1989 was huge, they were the two biggest prospects in british boxing by miles and their fight carried alot of hype and was screened live in america for the americans to get their first glimpses of these highlyrated combatants .. the winner of Benn vs. Watson was guaranteed a world title shot at Mike McCallum ..
and I remember Watson was actually the clear favourite to win the McCallum fight, McCallum was the underdog against Watson, but McCallum pulled off his best ever performance to chop Watson down like a tree ..
Lindell Holmes wasn't expected to trouble Eubank .. it was just another day at the office for Eubank and another easy win .. Holmes was worldclass but he wasnt in Eubanks class, but then again who was? No offence to the americans like Jarvis, Essett, Thornton and Holmes but they were not in the same class as Watson or Benn, and that means that they certainly werent in the same class as Eubank who had a 3-0-1 record against Watson and Benn.
I wouldnt expect you to of heard of Watson or Holmes unless you were a diehard boxing fan in the 1980s and early 1990s.
well i was only two by the time the 90s came about so it was kinda hard for me to be a diehard boxing fan at the time. :D
and ive never heard of watson or holmes. the only reason i know rocky was because DM kicked his ass.
I wouldnt expect you to of heard of Watson or Holmes unless you were a diehard boxing fan in the 1980s and early 1990s.
If I remember,Holmes was in contol before a Van Horn left hook from nowhere caught him on the top of the head and he kind of stumbled over and was up at eight ready to go on but the referee counted him out.
Lindell Holmes had five losses at the time of fighting Eubank,but they had come early in his career to quality fighters like Herol Graham and Ayub Kalule. Lindell was showing great form in the 1990s,but you wouldnt know that because you've never even seen him fight. He was making Van Horn look bad before the premature stoppage,I had him winning 7 rounds at that point,he was in great form going into the Eubank fight. You'd have to be blind to say that he was shitty,he clearly had alot going for him and was class.
You say that Michael lost twice to McCallum,I say that your a liar. Michael lost once to McCallum,I dont remember a rematch ever happening. Be honest,have you ever seen Michael Watson fight? He had alot going for him,clear talent,and was dominating the second half of the first Eubank fight and dominating the second fight with Eubank before that fateful uppercut.
As for Tucker,Tubbs,Witherspoon and Thomas all sucking,what planet are you on? You have alot of hate,those names you mention were very good fighters.
jesus, if you think all those guys are good fighters you must think primo carnera was the greatest HW champion of all time, too.
yes, watson only lost to mccallum once.
holmes has 8 losses and hasnt beaten anybody worth naming, watson beat benn then lost to mccallum twice and eubank twice so he was a one hit wonder, and rocky lost to every quality opponent he faced.
the fact that they are former titlists, doesnt mean shit. tony tucker, tony tubbs, tim witherspoon, and pinklon thomas are all former HW champions. are they any good? no, they all suck. the same goes for these former title holders.
Lindell Holmes had five losses at the time of fighting Eubank,but they had come early in his career to quality fighters like Herol Graham and Ayub Kalule. Lindell was showing great form in the 1990s,but you wouldnt know that because you've never even seen him fight. He was making Van Horn look bad before the premature stoppage,I had him winning 7 rounds at that point,he was in great form going into the Eubank fight. You'd have to be blind to say that he was shitty,he clearly had alot going for him and was class.
You say that Michael lost twice to McCallum,I say that your a liar. Michael lost once to McCallum,I dont remember a rematch ever happening. Be honest,have you ever seen Michael Watson fight? He had alot going for him,clear talent,and was dominating the second half of the first Eubank fight and dominating the second fight with Eubank before that fateful uppercut.
As for Tucker,Tubbs,Witherspoon and Thomas all sucking,what planet are you on? You have alot of hate,those names you mention were very good fighters.