Mayweather sucks as a person and is bad for the sport of boxing, the guy's a joke, he's like some sort of immature kid.
And Roy Jones wasn't much better, but atleast Jones was actually quite respectable as a person in his first 10 years as a pro (he did turn into a fucking asshole these last five years though).
o shut the hell up...i hate ppl who act like they get so emotional over what another person says...hes not talking about u so u saying "hes bad for the sport of boxing" is out of line
I think Mayweather has better skills than RJJ,but RJJs reflexes are on another planet.
As for Benn and McLennan,I think Benn had more raw natural talent,if Benn fought for the world title on his debut it would of been 50/50 thats the kind of raw natural talent he had.Although McLennan developed in to a pretty awesome boxer-puncher as the 80s turned into the 90s and had obvious abilities developed,his ring generalship and the way he timed things so well was a sight to behold.
I have to say that 87-89 Benn threw the hardest punches I have ever seen a middleweight throw,Jacksons best KO was Graham but I saw Benn knockouts 87-89 that were even harder punches than that,some of his knockouts sounded like a gun going off.87-89 Benn would literally try to kill you with every single punch right from the opening bell,he had bad intentions,he was a nasty mofo back then with a bottom-heavy physique for powerpunches and skinny upper body for speed.But after Michael Watson exposed Benns lack of a plan B it was a complete change in Benn he was no longer a badboy because his confidence had disappeared and in america he changed into a top-heavy physiqued fighter with skinny legs and a fighter who never put all his power and effort into a punch anymore and rather would place a punch to pace himself more,at Supermiddleweight Benn became ever more of a top-heavy physiqued punchplacer until McLennan when he tried to roll back the yrs.
As for the fight itself,McLennan and Benn,there is obviously no wonder why McLennan ended up in a wheelchair,Benn was such a hard hitter and McLennan simply took too many punches over 10 brutal rounds,hes a contender for the guy who could absorb punches best and was so fucking strong that he didnt ever go over.
right now, if they fought a middle or light middle, floyd would UD rjj. right now, he is better than rjj, but career wise, and rjj in his prime is better...for now. if floyd cleans up his division, and can beat judah....we will see what happens, but its bound to be exciting
uhh..is floyd out of his mind or do u think he is right?
I'd say at this point its about even. Floyd is on Roy's level talent wise, but his career is still very young.
uhh..is floyd out of his mind or do u think he is right?
pretty equal skill but i would give RJJ the node because his power was much better.have great defense and speed, so they never get hit, i can't beleive Floyd would say this.
Okay, for ten years Roy was untouchable. Floyd is only 27 and has been in 2 close fights (Chavez,Costillo). And was hurt twice by Corley. When did you ever hear of Roy getting hurt?
a question for mackay...in the first round of the mcclellan/benn fight, mcclellan knocked down benn and threw him out of the ropes, after that knockdown, it seemed like the referee was sorta preventing mcclellan from finishing the job by warning mcclellan and benn with unnecessary warnings and as a result giving benn a little more time to recover from the knockdown. do u think mcclellan could've stopped benn in the first round if the ref would've let them just fight without giving benn those slight moments to recover?
I'll answer it too.
I think the ref was stopping him too much but some refs are like that, they want the fighters to be in the right place and McCellan wasnt. After the first problem McCellan should have just learnt and waited for the ref to let him start instead of standing centre ring and making the ref waste seconds pushing him back.
I dont know if McCellan could have finished him though, its possible.
Benn does not hit Harder than Jackson. McClellan absorbed alot of heavy bombs from Jackson. It never caused to G to stop defending himself, stop throwing punches, and eventually go into a coma. G also as with Benn had Jackson hurt early and Jackson rallied back. But G still knocked him out. He was not like Tyson where if he did get you out in 1 he broke down psychologically.
Maybe Gman was hurting inside before but you have to give Benn credit for being a puncher, because he's a puncher if nothing else. he had terrible footwork, poor defence and a poor range of punches but he'd always be able to punch his way out of trouble.
McCellan in the end was too tough for his own good, a real shame.
a question for mackay...in the first round of the mcclellan/benn fight, mcclellan knocked down benn and threw him out of the ropes, after that knockdown, it seemed like the referee was sorta preventing mcclellan from finishing the job by warning mcclellan and benn with unnecessary warnings and as a result giving benn a little more time to recover from the knockdown. do u think mcclellan could've stopped benn in the first round if the ref would've let them just fight without giving benn those slight moments to recover?
I'm not saying Benn hits harder or is tougher, i just think they are both close in them departments. Benn is really tough and he hits really hard. The fact that Benn was able to get up and fight on after the first round proves he's tough.
Your theory works of the fact McCellan was brain fucked before the fight and i dont believe that, so IMO it proves Benns a heavy puncher for the damage he did. i also think McCellans brain problems are part the reason he stayed up so well, once your brain has taken that much the senses switch off and your on auto pilot. You said yourself "zomie", you know from watching dawn of the dead that zombie dont go down easily :D
Benn does not hit Harder than Jackson. McClellan absorbed alot of heavy bombs from Jackson. It never caused to G to stop defending himself, stop throwing punches, and eventually go into a coma. G also as with Benn had Jackson hurt early and Jackson rallied back. But G still knocked him out. He was not like Tyson where if he did get you out in 1 he broke down psychologically.
McClellan hits harder than Benn. It isn't even any contest. And he has a better ability to take punishment. 100% shape McClellan would blast Benn out in 3 rounds. He almoste blasted Benn out in the first round when they fought. Then his brain went bye bye. Nobody can slug with McClellan except maybe Hagler. McClellan hits way harder but it end up being a contest of who breaks thier hand on their opponents head first. Also I dont think that Benn could take the punishment G took from Jackson without going down.
Benn couldn't even knock down a braindamaged defenceless McClellan during their fight. And your saying that Benn is tougher than G. I think you need to do a re-evaluation. G was not even defending himself, he was a zombie in there and still Benn never dropped him. G on the other hand almost had Benn out in the 1st round. McClellan outslugs anybody other than Hagler.
I'm not saying Benn hits harder or is tougher, i just think they are both close in them departments. Benn is really tough and he hits really hard. The fact that Benn was able to get up and fight on after the first round proves he's tough.
Your theory works of the fact McCellan was brain fucked before the fight and i dont believe that, so IMO it proves Benns a heavy puncher for the damage he did. i also think McCellans brain problems are part the reason he stayed up so well, once your brain has taken that much the senses switch off and your on auto pilot. You said yourself "zomie", you know from watching dawn of the dead that zombie dont go down easily :D
Out box but not out slug, G-Man was IMO the more talented fighter but Benn is as tough as they come.
G hits harder and is tougher than Benn. A better boxer too when he decided to box.
Out box but not out slug, G-Man was IMO the more talented fighter but Benn is as tough as they come.
McClellan hits harder than Benn. It isn't even any contest. And he has a better ability to take punishment. 100% shape McClellan would blast Benn out in 3 rounds. He almoste blasted Benn out in the first round when they fought. Then his brain went to mush. Nobody can slug with McClellan except maybe Hagler. McClellan hits way harder but it end up being a contest of who breaks thier hand on their opponents head first. Also I dont think that Benn could take the punishment G took from Jackson without going down.
Benn couldn't even knock down a braindamaged defenceless McClellan during their fight. And your saying that Benn is tougher than G. I think you need to do a re-evaluation. G was not even defending himself, he was a zombie in there and still Benn never dropped him. G on the other hand almost had Benn out in the 1st round.
Gerald McClellan would easily outslug Benn. If he was in 100% condition.
Out box but not out slug, G-Man was IMO the more talented fighter but Benn is as tough as they come.
I have a theory that McClellan was already braindamaged in some way before he fought Benn. After the first round of that bout. McClellan hardly did anything. Hardly threw any punches. He took so many bombs from one of the hardest punchers in middleweight history in Julian Jackson and in other fights before fighting Benn. Just he could take so much punishment. He had to go into a coma state before going down.
yeah, neva thort of it like that, thats crazy isnt it. not to speak ill of him but isn't it true he was a bit of a bastard?
Roy beat better opposition only because the 2 names he beat were at their worst (Toney being drained and Hopkins being a rookie)
roy also had a hurt hand in both those fights...
how can you say Mayweather isn't better than Roy? I don't ever remember Mayweather being KO'ed twice, and Roy beat better opposition only because the 2 names he beat were at their worst (Toney being drained and Hopkins being a rookie)
Hearns, McClellan & Jackson hit harder then Benn.
If they did hit harder than a young Benn, they certainly don't hit "a lot" harder because if they did they'd kill all of their opponents as soon as they landed.
Nigel Benn does not hit harder than McClellan or Jackson. Ridiculous contenton.
He's definately in that bracket, he was dubbed as 'the hardest hitter in boxing' by Goosen in 88, and McCallum said before Benn-Watson "I don't know if anybody punches harder (than Benn), it may be my toughest test" (he was due to fight the winner).