I dont want this to be a race smack thread, just genunine opinions please.
There always seems to be conflict between black and white fighters, there are slight difference to the two races but nothing that effects their ability to perform at the highest level.
The below is only true at the highest level, theres no major differences for the average person.
Naturally Black people are faster than White people, its pretty obvious that they can run faster, etc. Its not very often you will see a white 100 meter sprinter at the olympics or doing other speed related sports.
Naturally White people are stronger than Black people, its pretty obvious than they can lift bigger weights, etc. Its not very often you Black person compete at world strongest man or doing a strength sport like swimming.
Dont confuse power with strength in boxing, power is a combination of speed and strength so both races can punch just as hard as each other.
So my point is that its harder for a white person to have really fast hands like Mayweather & Judah, and it harder for a black person to have strength like Hatton and Tszyu. People are always hating on each other because of the way a fighters fight but its a natural, fighter are made to fight they way they do before they are even born. People should learn to respect how fighter of different races fight, Mayweather hasnt got the strength to out muscle a lot of fighters so he has to fight on the outside and use his natural speed ability, Hatton needs to use his natural strength advantages on the inside because he wont get far fighting people on the outside.
These are general rules are there are always exceptions to the rules(i.e. Lewis was a very strong fighter)
Both races are very skilled at what they do and both races should respect that more, these differences are part of the reason boxing is so intersting and such a great sport.
BTW, before anyone says "how come blacks have more top class heavys if whites are stronger?", in general when a white person puts on that much muscle they are too slow to be an effective boxer, its harder to get that big without losing the speed. Mariusz Pudzianowski(2003 world strongest man) was a boxer until he decided he's use his natural abilitys better.
exactly, and whites somehow never get condfidence when they fight a black fighter because they believe he will undoubtly beat them. thats bullshit. man up!
What? LOL Where did you get that from? So I'm Ukrainian, you are trying to say that I have some subconcious part of me being afraid of a man just because he is African? Or African-American???
News to me lol
and you speak on what race is faster stronger and all that well read your history and see why that is.....whose genetics has been tampered with who was bred like animals to make the bigger stronger worker back and those days then you find all your answers.....just don't look on the surface
exactly, and whites somehow never get condfidence when they fight a black fighter because they believe he will undoubtly beat them. thats bullshit. man up!
I say no, blah-blah, who cares, and go bugger yourself to this entire thread because:
1.) In terms of biology, race almost doesn't exist. We are all members of the same species, we all do it with each other and have been doing it with each other since the beginning, which means that genes have always been moving back and forth between Africa, Europe, Asia, et cetera. So even if some genes that resulted in great atheletic performance emerged in one group of people, they would eventually circulate around to all the other populations because PEOPLE LIKE TO HAVE LOTS OF SEX WITH EACH OTHER!
2.) It is almost impossible, unless you have a team of scientists and lots of money, to tell whether a racial pattern in athletics is based on genetics or simply on cultural, historical, or economic factors. For example: blacks are about 10 percent of the U.S. population, but probably represent 90 percent of the NBA, I guess. It is tempting to explain this by saying that blacks are just naturally better at basketball than whites. An easy answer, but reality is more complex than that. If it is the case that young black males see the NBA as one of only two or three ways that they can become wealthy, if half of their role models are NBA basketball players, and if almost all young black men grow up playing basketball, then you're going to end up with a huge pool of young black men trying to get into the NBA. Compare this to young white men who feel that they have a wider range of options as far as ways that they can become successful... the pool of black competitors is larger than the pool of white competitors, and therefore you get more elite black basketball players than elite white ones, without ever bringing genetics into the equation. I'm not saying that this is the only explanation, but I hope I've made my point that it is more complex than just "blacks are naturally better"...
3.) Even if there are some small general differences between the races in terms of athletic ability, it's gonna be totally irrellevant in a couple hundred years because by then we'll all have interbred into one kinda light-brown mix, thanks to all those black dudes dating white women and all those white guys with jungle fever and also the fact that everyone likes asian women and...
A lot of people say to me, Boxing is a black mans sport... "There ain't no white boy that can fight like a black man". But it isn't true... See below:
Heavyweight Champion - White
Cruiserweight Champion - Black
Light-Heavyweight Champion - Black
Super-Middleweight Champion - White
Middleweight Champion - Black
Light-Middleweight Champion - *vacant*
Welterweight Champion - Black
Light-Welterweight Champion - White
Lightweight Champion - White
Super-featherweight Champion - White
Featherweight Champion - White
Super-Bantamweight Champion - White
Bantamweight Champion - White
Super Flyweight Champion - White
Flyweight Champion - White
Light-Flyweight Champion - White
Strawweight Champion - White
slow down lil red corvet!
Aren't there any Latin/ Asain Champions out there?
A MArgarito, Diego Corrales, JL Castillo , MAB,
JM Marquez, M Pacquao,J Chavez, R Marquez? ( many more out there)
just want to be sure you knew
And blacks in Africa are very different may I add. Black Sudanese look much different than Black Nigerians and Black Nigerians look much different than Black South Africans.
Black is the most accurate term for people of African descent. Because Frans Botha is African. And so are his fellow Afrikaners like Corrie Sanders. I know a white dude from Gambia that calls himself and African American. He is, he just isn't black.
Black is not a Fucking Race Jackass stop sterotyping Africans as Black you've got Red Africans, Brown Africans, and Dark Africans,
Sure Many of the African Americans and People of African descent in Carribean and South America all trace their Roots to West and north Africa which the region was mostly made up of Brown Africans and Red Africans their are a few exceptions in north American...Look at a Guy from south Africa's picture and look at Tito Trinidad's picture sure Both are from african descent but Both are from diffrent Regions in Africa you understand Not all Africans come out the same color or as you call it "black"....
Black is not a Fucking Race Jackass stop sterotyping Africans as Black you've got Red Africans, Brown Africans, and Dark Africans,
Sure Many of the African Americans and People of African descent in Carribean and South America all trace their Roots to West and north Africa which the region was mostly made up of Brown Africans and Red Africans their are a few exceptions in north American...Look at a Guy from south Africa's picture and look at Tito Trinidad's picture sure Both are from african descent but Both are from diffrent Regions in Africa you understand Not all Africans come out the same color or as you call it "black"....
I am amazed at your utter ignorance. Although, it doesn't suprise me. Here's a history lesson for you. Negroid(which is derived from the word Negro which means black) describes the racial classification of humans indigenous to the African continent. Negroid peoples predominate from Sub-Sahara Africa as well as East Africa, North Africa, and South Africa. There you have it, basic Antropology.
Sure, he's a Puerto Rican fighter, but the fact remains he's black now matter how you look at. Puerto Rican is his nationality, but black is his race.
Black is not a Fucking Race Jackass stop sterotyping Africans as Black you've got Red Africans, Brown Africans, and Dark Africans,
Sure Many of the African Americans and People of African descent in Carribean and South America all trace their Roots to West and north Africa which the region was mostly made up of Brown Africans and Red Africans their are a few exceptions in north American...Look at a Guy from south Africa's picture and look at Tito Trinidad's picture sure Both are from african descent but Both are from diffrent Regions in Africa you understand Not all Africans come out the same color or as you call it "black"....
NAW i new that. puerto ricans, cubans and dominicans all have blak n em. but consider them wear there from. tito wasnt born in africa was he? no! he was born n puerto rico. so hes a puerto rican fighter.
Sure, he's a Puerto Rican fighter, but the fact remains he's black now matter how you look at. Puerto Rican is his nationality, but black is his race.
NAW i new that. puerto ricans, cubans and dominicans all have blak n em. but consider them wear there from. tito wasnt born in africa was he? no! he was born n puerto rico. so hes a puerto rican fighter.
Nonetheless, he's black no matter how you look at, Puerto Rican or not.
:rofl: What a stupid remark. They are of African decent, therefore they are black. Last time I checked, Puerto Ricans aren't considered a race. They're natives of Puerto Rico. To say that only blacks should be African American is utterly ignorant. You must have been asleep during history class. :confused:
NAW i new that. puerto ricans, cubans and dominicans all have blak n em. but consider them wear there from. tito wasnt born in africa was he? no! he was born n puerto rico. so hes a puerto rican fighter.
I swear you have some haters on TO. He's never been arrested nor raped anyone (Kobe Bryant) or punched a camera man out (Rogers on the Texas Rangers) and the hate people have for him surpasses all other athletes.
I'm wondering whats the real reason people hate him?
There was a time when Jeremy Shockey was in the news and the papers, but his time has passed. Nobody will talk about him unless he does something that someone feels is worth talking about. Same with T.O. What about that idiot baseball player that made those racist comments, and then tried to take them back? (Can't remember his name, hate baseball) anyway, nobody talks about him anymore, but they will if he opens his trap again. I hate T.O too, but it's because he tried to show off by posing on our star. THAT'S NOT COOL MAN, NOT COOL! lol
real
Greg Leon of Boxingtalk is the only journalist of a boxing web site that doesnt talk down to Mayweather.
Also, the media hates Terrell Owens but neglects to mention equally arrogant but white Jeremy Shockey of the NY Giants.
There was a time when Jeremy Shockey was in the news and the papers, but his time has passed. Nobody will talk about him unless he does something that someone feels is worth talking about. Same with T.O. What about that idiot baseball player that made those racist comments, and then tried to take them back? (Can't remember his name, hate baseball) anyway, nobody talks about him anymore, but they will if he opens his trap again. I hate T.O too, but it's because he tried to show off by posing on our star. THAT'S NOT COOL MAN, NOT COOL! lol
When you have so much more people from one group participating in sports, there is a better chance that some of them will be talented in sports. If you have less people from another group participating in sports, the result will be very few participants who are actually competitive.
It's the law of averages.
I agree, I've actually said that before too. The more athletes of a certain race you have competing in a given sport, the more successful athletes of that particular race you will have in that particular sport. On the other hand, white fighters do seem to fight much differently than black fighters on the average...
Thank you! Puerto Rican is not a race. American is not a race.
I hate when people say my mother is white and my dad is American!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
its funny you say Puerto Rican is a race when it isn't thats like saying all Americans are one race if you really look at it Most dark Puerto Ricans are black and you have black Brazilians that are classified as Brazilians just like the Dominican Republic.......all these names like hispanic and shit like that was a classification by a white male that you guys just happen to play along with.........maybe if people read more you would know history i know my history i know that Puerto Rico, Cuba ,Brazil,Dominican Republic all have African origins but some people are to blind to face it.....its just like i laugh when i hear Mexicans calling themselves Aztecs and shit like that but not knowing that most Aztec tribes were Black and indian.........so i guess i can run around saying i'm an aztec warrior....and since you guys say you'll aztecs i guess the Puerto Ricans can say they are Mayan warriors huh ? bullshit read your history don't just fall in line
But hey if the sun don't shine then the sun don't shine
its funny you say Puerto Rican is a race when it isn't thats like saying all Americans are one race if you really look at it Most dark Puerto Ricans are black and you have black Brazilians that are classified as Brazilians just like the Dominican Republic.......all these names like hispanic and shit like that was a classification by a white male that you guys just happen to play along with.........maybe if people read more you would know history i know my history i know that Puerto Rico, Cuba ,Brazil,Dominican Republic all have African origins but some people are to blind to face it.....its just like i laugh when i hear Mexicans calling themselves Aztecs and shit like that but not knowing that most Aztec tribes were Black and indian.........so i guess i can run around saying i'm an aztec warrior....and since you guys say you'll aztecs i guess the Puerto Ricans can say they are Mayan warriors huh ? bullshit read your history don't just fall in line
But hey if the sun don't shine then the sun don't shine
TITO is puerto rican. he might be dark but hes a proud ass boriqua.
and DIEGO aint blak neither, he's half mexican/cuban. just look at his last name...
blax should be african/african american fighters, not people who look blak.
:rofl: What a stupid remark. They are of African decent, therefore they are black. Last time I checked, Puerto Ricans aren't considered a race. They're natives of Puerto Rico. To say that only blacks should be African American is utterly ignorant. You must have been asleep during history class. :confused: