he doesnt need a tune-up before he fights rahman cause rahman is the tune-up for a bigger fight ahahahhaha, rahman is a joke and anyone who would pick him to win is a fool and probally a hater who is taking a risk by taking rahmna just in case, its all a matter of time before the titles are Big V's and u haters can go back to saying stuff about the byrd and lewis fight
We're not saying Vitali sucks. We're just saying because Rahman is so talented albeit unpredictable, this fight should be up in the air. Vitali doesn't suck, and neither does Rahman, so when Rahman beats him, don't cry to us.
shut the hell up....
This has already been adressed.
If Vitali's WBC title isn't involved, why should someone unify all the others while he sits around fighting poor fighters.
All the title holders need to get together, and fight in a two part tourney like King did at middleweight when Hopkins won.
VK has only had one title defense and has been injured since then, now he has mandatory with rock, so he really hasnt had an opportunity at unifying the belts... you make it sound like he fights poor fighters instead of unifying... byrd and ruiz have been champs for more than 2 years now, there's no reason why they couldnt have already started the unifying process before vk was even in the picture... given the chance i think VK will look to fight the other champs, but you can see what a difficult time he's been having between the injuries and rahman/king ...
In all honesty I suspect that confederate ghost is either slique or Tino. I am leaning towards thinking he is Tino considering at what time he logged on.
I really wonder at this point. Is there any member of this website that has not been accused of being an alter alias of myeself? It is really getting out of hand. At this point it seems like 40% of the total posters on this website have at one time or another been accused of been an alter alias of myself.
saying that if he beats peter and gains a shot at byrd, providing he still has the belt, he should beat byrd. actually, i'd say he WILL beat byrd given the chance.
not listed in any particular order by the way. but since wlad/peter and rahman/barrett were title shot eleminators, they needed to be mentioned.
completely agree.
i beleive wladimir said if he beats peter, he'd prefer to rematch brewster, but fight byd anyways. sounds like he's tlking unification.
byrd just said he's fighting in october hopefully.
vk/rahman soon barring some weird shit happen. what's up with that cut anyways?
ruiz? what's he up to?
and brewster fighting krasniqi? i'm only giving brewster credit for fighting in hamburg.
Funny that you added Wlad in at the top of your list.
How is he a key player in unifying belts? He doesn't have one.
completely agree.
i beleive wladimir said if he beats peter, he'd prefer to rematch brewster, but fight byd anyways. sounds like he's tlking unification.
byrd just said he's fighting in october hopefully.
vk/rahman soon barring some weird shit happen. what's up with that cut anyways?
ruiz? what's he up to?
and brewster fighting krasniqi? i'm only giving brewster credit for fighting in hamburg.
oh, i know a hvywt tourney would be great. but dk doesn't strike me as an easy bargainer. i think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes than we know.
and i'm definitely not sold on all the blame being on vk. i think at most the less of it may be.
At the moment, the "blame" for the current state of the Heavyweight division falls on a lot of heads, including the other title holders.
It's what happens next that matters most.
oh, i know a hvywt tourney would be great. but dk doesn't strike me as an easy bargainer. i think there is a bit more going on behind the scenes than we know.
and i'm definitely not sold on all the blame being on vk. i think at most the less of it may be.
i wasn't talking about all the belts being unified. but there hasn't been even mention of 2 of dk's 3 belts being unified. wouldn't you think someone who holds 2 belts would draw some attention for vk to literally make an effort to go after. either that or he could fight for dk's third belt. but don hasn't even started to get any type of unification underway whatsoever. i think he's too afraid of losing control of the majority of the hvywt action.
and i can see why ppl think dk is a gangster. he's been a known numbers runner and stomped somebody to death for a mere $500. he wouldn't sound too trustworthy to me.
That's being dramatic.
There was talk of two titles being unified only a few months ago. Toney and Byrd were all but signed to fight eachother with the titles on the line before the steroid news broke. It was listed on boxrec.
King has ripped a ton of people off, but that's being used as a crutch and an excuse.
King puts on big promotions, and he makes people money. In this case, it would clearly benifit everyone envolved and would allow the best man to win.
A Heavyweight torunament is in the best intrest of the sport and he's just the man to do it. It would be fantabulous and extravagansical and you know it.
i wasn't talking about all the belts being unified. but there hasn't been even mention of 2 of dk's 3 belts being unified. wouldn't you think someone who holds 2 belts would draw some attention for vk to literally make an effort to go after. either that or he could fight for dk's third belt. but don hasn't even started to get any type of unification underway whatsoever. i think he's too afraid of losing control of the majority of the hvywt action.
and i can see why ppl think dk is a gangster. he's been a known numbers runner and stomped somebody to death for a mere $500. he wouldn't sound too trustworthy to me.
I just think it's messed up that Vitali would have to sign King as co-promoter to unify the belts. I know this is a business but King needs to grow the hell up and let me best man win.
That's naive.
I don't see how it's a problem to sign the biggest promoter in the history of the Heavyweight division to *Co*promote his future fights as he tries to unify titles, earn the respect of the public, and make more money.
Once again, the alternative of taking his ball and going home means less money and enduring critisism.
All I get from a lot of people out here on this is that Don King is some kind of Gangster out to get Vitali Klitschko.
If Vitali is the man to unify the titles, King would be more than happy to be involved while that develops if it makes both of them more money.
Look at how much money Lennox Lewis made fighting with King as a *Co*Promoter.
don king's ppv didn't seem to do very well saturday, at least fight wise. so why hasn't any of his champ fighters fought eachother? you don't need vitali to have two of 'em fight to unify.
This has already been adressed.
If Vitali's WBC title isn't involved, why should someone unify all the others while he sits around fighting poor fighters.
All the title holders need to get together, and fight in a two part tourney like King did at middleweight when Hopkins won.
This last PPV was a poor card, and King picked it up because HBO wouldn't.
Either way, King is going to co promote the fight with Rahman, and it will be bigger than Vitali's numbers and pay in the Johnson, Sanders, and Williams fights without a doubt.
He's paying money to someone no matter who he fights.
Toney was on the outside, signed King on to co promote, and got a shot at Ruiz.
There's no reason why Vitali can't sign King on to co promote, rematch Byrd on a PPV with Zab Judah and Ricardo Mayorga, and if he wins, fight Brewster, Ruiz or Toney in fights that would be even higher profile as a result of the last one.
It kills two birds with one stone.
Title shots, bigger PPVs, and more acclaim.
The alternative is ignoring the belts, claim himself the real champion and continue to fight guys outside the top five.
I just think it's messed up that Vitali would have to sign King as co-promoter to unify the belts. I know this is a business but King needs to grow the hell up and let me best man win.
don king's ppv didn't seem to do very well saturday, at least fight wise. so why hasn't any of his champ fighters fought eachother? you don't need vitali to have two of 'em fight to unify.
What you say is true, but shouldn't Vitali be able to fight the other beltholders without having to give King money? It seems to me that Don Kng is scared that Vitali will beat all of his fighters and wants an insurance policy just in case.
He's paying money to someone no matter who he fights.
Toney was on the outside, signed King on to co promote, and got a shot at Ruiz.
There's no reason why Vitali can't sign King on to co promote, rematch Byrd on a PPV with Zab Judah and Ricardo Mayorga, and if he wins, fight Brewster, Ruiz or Toney in fights that would be even higher profile as a result of the last one.
It kills two birds with one stone.
Title shots, bigger PPVs, and more acclaim.
The alternative is ignoring the belts, claim himself the real champion and continue to fight guys outside the top five.
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