Why all the Zab hating?

Imagine Hearns vs Judah.. Hearns KTFO 2

I told you how in this thread or another one(I havent read them in awhile so I dont remember) but it comes down to one thing that makes me feel this way. Zab and Floyd are both super gifted but Floyd is also extremely fundementally sound. That is why I think they are just about equal but in a straight up matchup Floyd will get the better of him in most things just because of fundementals and Zab is wild. I could see Zab keeping his hands down or swinging wild and Floyd wont do things like that at all. My point is though I think Floyd is the only guy right now who can do that to Zab and like I said I still give Zab a legitimate punchers chance. Not a fake one If Zab does well competitively ,I"ll give him his due,Im still pretty sure he'll lose,& if he gets stopped by floyd,he gets 0 respect from me.

I think youre trying to have it both ways because these are yooure two fav fighters,In the other thread you say you expect Maywether by dominant KO,now youre saying Zab's skill is underrated? I dont see how you can have both those opinions. I told you how in this thread or another one(I havent read them in awhile so I dont remember) but it comes down to one thing that makes me feel this way. Zab and Floyd are both super gifted but Floyd is also extremely fundementally sound. That is why I think they are just about equal but in a straight up matchup Floyd will get the better of him in most things just because of fundementals and Zab is wild. I could see Zab keeping his hands down or swinging wild and Floyd wont do things like that at all. My point is though I think Floyd is the only guy right now who can do that to Zab and like I said I still give Zab a legitimate punchers chance. Not a fake one

I made the thread about a "funny feeling about Floyd vs Zab" and everyone killed Zab. Alot of you say he is a B fighter and his skills arent up to par with Floyd. What? This guy is one of the most skilled fighters in recent memory with his combonation of speed, power, and his D has even gotten much better. Then I hate when people always talk about his chin. What evidence do you have on that? All of you say that Tszyu killed him but thats a lie. 1st off it was a long time ago and Zab was a young and very immature fighter. You guys say he has a weak chin simply because he got hit by one of the hardest punchers in boxing, while he was leaning back, and with his hands completely down at his side. Its stupid. How many fighters wouldnt have got dropped and KO by that punch? Zab was just dumb and got up too quick. Then you talk about Millet but he was another guy with power and Zab was just rushing in trying to kill him. Anyone knows that if you are a big time offensive fighter, then you will go all out and be in position to get countered. It happeneds to all of them. When Castillo dropped Chico twice I told my man that Chico now has Castillo where he wants him because Jose is going in for the kill and he will leave him self vulnerable to the counter. Thats why alot of guys dont go for the kill. Why does Zab have a weak chin just for those 2 moments? I forgot he also got the fake knock down against Spinks which everyone knows was just because of being off balance but they always bring it up like he just got killed with that punch. He was alright still before 10 in the Tszyu fight and all Tszyu did was land that one punch so it makes me mad when people say that I knew Zab was garbage when Tszyu killed him. Zab dominated the 1st round and got caught with a straight right while leaning back with his hands down. Why does Zab always have to be labeled as chinny for that but Tszyu has been TKO twice and dropped legitmaly a bunch of other times and no one says nothing. You can think of almost every fighter and almost all of them have been either hurt a few times, dropped a few times, or straight up stopped a few times but Zab is the only one who gets that lable just because guys dont like him. Then people want to downplay the Spinks matches and say Cory sucks or that if Spinks can box with Zab then you know Floyd can. That is garbage. Spinks is a great fighter who is in the mold of a sweet pea and is a lefty. Floyd would have trouble with Spinks. I bet Spinks would give any of those guys problems at 154 and none of them wouldnt want to fight him. I bet anything that he would make Varas and Margarito look stupid right now and I bet he even beats the Russian who everyone is so high on. Zab gets such a bad rap. This guy has skills that only people wish they could have. Never the less, this is how alot of fans feel and thats why I said over and over again that this fight shouldnt be made right now. I said Zab needs one more big win for the public and he shouldve fought and killed Margartio then this fight wouldve been huge. and yes Zab would kill him. Then I hear some crazy people saying that Chico would kill Zab. What? This would be the biggest mismatch in boxing. Chico got dominated by Floyd and just recently made Freitas of all people look like Sweet Pea until PoPo tired. Chico will always have problems with guys that have speed and can move and then you add to that a guy who is a lefty like Zab? He would kill Chico worst then Floyd did. I think youre trying to have it both ways because these are yooure two fav fighters,In the other thread you say you expect Maywether by dominant KO,now youre saying Zab's skill is underrated? I dont see how you can have both those opinions.

Guys with so much talent as Mayweather dont lose to Corey Spinks and have TKO 2 losses, all withink a relatively short time period. I mean seriously comparing Judah to Mayweather is ridiculous as a hell. I cant even imagine what Corrales would to do Judah or what Castillo would do to him and they are lightweights, let alone Hatton or Mayweather or Tzyu again, or maybe even Cotto. Fair enough, I wont argue cause im not a Zab fan to begin with I also didnt compare Judah to Mayweather, I said Judah skills are second only to Mayweather, in my opinion

He fought a decent fighter Spinks lost once won once. He fought Championship caliber fighter once and he lost TKO 2. With that record against higher tier opposition I dont know how you can class him as an A level and second only to Mayweather that it is utterly ridiculous. I mean he is from talent , You forgot he fought Tsyzu he lost that as well, he is a gifted fighter ,you cant deny that he just has to step up, competition level, hes fighting Sharmba Mitchell now, a powerless boxer like Spinks

YOu know what is stupid. People just state what their opinion is Judah, you dont agree with it because your biased on his behalf then you declare anybody who does not conform with your biased overrated view of him as a "HATER." Very very lame. I do think Zab is the second most gifted skill fighter today, Zab doesnt fight the elite fights, thats why i want to see him in a fight against offensive machines like Margarito who has a nonstop swinging style

It's a joke man The Truth and The Greatest never have beef.. He's the nicest guy I think I've met in my life hahaha haha...I am cool with everybody :D

Well I made a thread in the lounge and said WHO IS MANNY P... Then I just put up the names of a bunch of posters, and someone voted for The Truth!! HHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! NYAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!! That is wrong, ima check that thread, I dont think its funny cause hes cool like you said, but i guess i got to see for myself to get understand why it was funny

Yeah, but I dont think Zab considers fighting Magarito as a step up for a guy holding 3 belts in his weight class. He does think highly of himself.

Margarito or Mayorga. Margarito, he needs a title shot

I dont understand the joke though, He is is cool guy like you said, The Truth is a class act guy, is it a good joke or bad joke? Well I made a thread in the lounge and said WHO IS MANNY P... Then I just put up the names of a bunch of posters, and someone voted for The Truth!! HHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!! NYAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a joke man The Truth and The Greatest never have beef.. He's the nicest guy I think I've met in my life hahaha I dont understand the joke though, He is is cool guy like you said, The Truth is a class act guy, is it a good joke or bad joke?

It's a joke man The Truth and The Greatest never have beef.. He's the nicest guy I think I've met in my life hahaha

I don't hate Zab... I don't think his skills are overrated at all, has all the tools... I just think his accomplishments are overrated... The only decent fighter he's beat is Spinks... If he beats Mayweather I will put him VERY high on my p4p list, actually i'd put him #1 cuz it's not a big win against any opponent u know Thats what i think, hes a very skilled fighter, talented as hell, he hasnt beaten anyone except a overated Spinks(twice in my opinion), I still hold Zab in high regard, he needs to step up, Sharmba Mitchell isnt a worldbeater, Step Up Zab, you can beat anyone with your talent By the wayTheFuture, do you have beef with the truth, hes a cool guy ,what does you signature mean, ive noticed it some other times, I just dont know what Manny_P=TheTruth mean

Margarito or Mayorga.

*copy and pasted from a reply of mine on another forum, I think it applies here* The truth is, Zab hasn't fought a knockout fighter since he fought Tszyu, everybody knows how that went. If Zab wants to put away rumors of a suspect chin, then he should take a fight with Margarito. Zab, I think will try to avoid Margarito as long as he possible can. "I would kill him" is never a valid reason to duck a worthy contender. Zab is a big self promoter, we all kow that, well, he would get more credibility by beating Margario then he would any other welterweight. I'm not going to say Margarito would beat him because I don't think he would, but the way Judah is ducking him is shameful.

I don't hate Zab... I don't think his skills are overrated at all, has all the tools... I just think his accomplishments are overrated... The only decent fighter he's beat is Spinks... If he beats Mayweather I will put him VERY high on my p4p list, actually i'd put him #1 cuz it's not a big win against any opponent u know

Second fight. I have it on my computer. Want me to send it to you by AOL IM? i would like to know when spinks shook judah? please dont refer to the knock down in the first fight becuase that was strictly because he was off balance

I agree. He has some pretty good skills. I can't deny that..