Hagler or Benn??

"And this is coming from a guy who said Hagler would of destroyed Herol Graham! " The Hagler who destroyed Tony Sibson would indeed have smoked Herol Graham.....any herol Graham. You're stroking a guy who never a world title....who came up short when it counted most....& doing so against one of the absolute best fighters of the last 25 years. O.K., I'm the idiot here. No version of Hagler....spends a night in the hospital after facing Julian Jackson. No version of Hagler loses a decision to Mike McCallum, in say- Boston.

Are you talking about the 160lb Benn who was dropped by Doug DeWitt ?

Benn definately beats 84-87 Hagler, Hagler wasn't in that class! 1977 was Hagler's best year. I think Hagler peaked a little later than you do, JUYJUY. Everything came together for him around the time he beat Minter. He was stronger then, than he was in '77, & while still at a point where he was sharp as hell. From Minter to Scypion...that was the best Hagler. A complete fighter.

"He certainly has more natural talent than I had and punches harder than I ever did. He's the one I'm really excited about." - Marvin Hagler on Nigel Benn in 1989Marvin beats Benn from a wheelchair...in his priime after hid prime...forver and ever....Hagler and Benn in the same sentence...C'mon!!

Benn was more exciting to watch for sure. I'd have picked him to beat Hagler but hell that'd probably be a damn good match. You try way too hard to be different....even if it means sounding like a complete fool. Hagler would destroy Benn. Terible style matchup for Benn.

omg benn was a bum. hagler would of killed him, who the fuck is nigel benn one of the shitty british fighters of the past i bet LOL, that makes a mockery of some of the great fighters he beat then! McClennan and Barkley to name two!

Having been lucky enough to see both men fight live and to have been around when they both were fighting, I have to say Hagler without hesitation! Benn was an awesome fighter W 42 (35 ko's) | L 5 | D 1 | Total 48, but Haggler was an all time great W 62 (52 ko's) | L 3 | D 2 | Total 67 .

Thankk You! You guys are killing me with this topic. benn was a really good fighter. One with such devastaing KO power that people reveree him even more which is often the case in the sport. but remember we are talking about a guy who was very one dimensional and also a guy who did not make adjustments well on the fly in fights. I don' think he would have even beat RJJ let alone Hagler! also we all can adree that styles make fights. That being the case it is important to know that all great fighter slightly adjust their styles and gameplans depennding on who they fight. if you check the era at the time he was king, there was no fighter with the rep as a KO king like Hagler challenging him but that does not mean that he could not handle it through adjustments. especially not with the chin he had. Lastly it is totally unfair to compare fighters from different eras in any context other than their prime. So will peopel please stop talking about wild man Barkley catching a slower tommy hearns with a good shot and knocking him out. historically theya re not even in the same hemispher.

Hagler of around 77/78 was the best 160lb fighter ever with his counter-punching. The washed-up old slugger that edged out a washed-up old little guy Duran and a blown-up chinny Hearns (and a one-paced, one-dimensional Mugabi) was not Hagler at his best and is over-rated. Benn blasted out Iran Barkley and Gerald McClellan which is very impressive, and Benn was more awesome than Minter and Sibson put together. . Thats is maybe one of the most biased opinions ive seen. Benn beating Minter, Sibson, Barkley...IMPRESSIVE. But Hagler beating Duran, Hearns and Mugabi....washed up, chinny, and one dimensional! Foolish, foolish boy! And still banned.

Did I mention Jones in this forum you hideous idiot. I just said the Hagler incident is one of the reasons a lot American does not go to England and fight because some stupid idiots like you McKAy will spoil it.

This is one of the reason why American do not go over there and fight because there will be few idiots who's gonna spoil it. Think Anorak, elviel, Frank can't count, that hideous McKay. All idiots who have missing neurons on their frontal lobe. Anybody that does not agree with your pathetic dogmatic view that Roy Jones Jr is the "Greatest Ever to lace up gloves" and all the rest of the bullshit must be from some wierd country other than United States I guess. Or for that matter anybody that does not conform to the way of thinking that you think is correct for people to have in a general sense. I have seen this attitude before. All I have to say about it is. Go back to Palestine and this time please stay there. Better you go around hurting and terrorizing the arabs there in Palestine than me. Actually it would be better if you were exiled to an uninhabited island so you would have nobody to hurt except yourself and selves. You make the United States look pathetic by propping up Roy Jones as the represenative of American boxing when you engage in provocations against fighters from other countries, and fans of fighters from other countries. I have to say I am glad however that you chose Roy Jones Jr over Zab Judah though. Jones actually has 10x the class of Mayweather and Judah but that really is not saying much because you multiply a negative by a negative you still come out below 0. Also Judah is not an A level fighter by any standard. Kostya Tzyu, Antonio Margarito, Ricky Hatton, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Miguell Cotto, Roman Karmazin and other fighters would hand him his ass. What happened in the Tzyu fight showed the entire world that Judah is not an A level fighter. There seems to be a pattern where people that like Jones tend to also like Mayweather and Judah. These are 3 of the biggest punks in the sport. Definitely Zab and Mayweather are higher on the list, but Jones is still the all time biggest piece of shit in terms of never winning his belts and the ring, and ducking all the best fighters in every single weight class. And in some cases he does not even have the excuse that they are from another country, when you think of Gerald McCllelan and Michael Nunn. Steve Collins would have fought him any place, any time, and on any of Jones' bullshit terms. You see I mention the Palestine thing. Because it seems on this forum that you are much less concerned and knowledgable about boxing as you are about trying to provoke flame wars. Your sort of the Jewish version of IWatchboxing, though he is probably Jewish as well. I would ask that you dont bring good topics about boxing down to the level of the IWatchboxing mentality, putting down all fighters that not BLACK Puerto Ricans and the bullshit that goes along with him.

This is one of the reason why American do not go over there and fight because there will be few idiots who's gonna spoil it. Think Anorak, elviel, Frank can't count, that hideous McKay. All idiots who have missing neurons on their frontal lobe.

These two have been discussed more, in one month, than f*ckin' Roberto Duran has been discussed in over a year. http://www.trufanboxing.com/HDBenn.JPG ;)

. I am talking to JuJuy, Anorak, Elviel, McKay, Frank can't count and whoever idiot that want to add. ha aha ha Usually people think I am Australian.

Also he was at his best when he fought Minter. You see a handful of English idiots (like I see in this forums ) who were throwing bottle of beers inside the ring(like when they make stupid comments) because their supposedly champ was stopped by a cut in the eye. Hagler has been clocking their champ but their too idiot to admit it. Hagler did not receive the belts inside the ring which is the worst crap . What a shameless act. If you are British and you are not idiot don't be offended, there's only handful of them. I am talking to JuJuy, Anorak, Elviel, McKay, Frank can't count and whoever idiot that want to add. ha aha ha I remember that scene...never forget it. That is one reason why i became such a hagler fan. Went into his pub, took a pint off the counter, smashed their boy's head in with it, and left under a barage of anger and hate.

I have just about had it with this asshole, JUYJUY. He has managed to create 100x the amount of discussion that Chris Eubank & Nigel Benn warrant. He has done so by incessantly posting worthless interviews & stories on them. He has also done so by making ridiculous assertions that he knew would flare people up (I have been flared, so I'm guilty) & get them to join in him his PATHETIC obsession/agenda. It's nice to call attention & create discussion about fighters who have been overlooked by fight fans & fans in general. But what this guy has done with Benn & Eubank is a disgrace. These two have been discussed more, in one month, than f*ckin' Roberto Duran has been discussed in over a year. It is LITTER....GARBAGE. He can't rightfully be banned, because he is at least posting boxing-related topics, & he's not really an insulting type of guy. But he is a JUNK MERCHANT, & needs to be limited. I will ignore him from here on....if anyone else thinks he's as detrimental as I, please do the same. Fuck you, JUYJUY.....go get a life, you obsessed one-trick pony. So is JUYJUY the culprit? I was wondering if there was jsut a huge Eniglish fandome here on theis site creaming over english fighters, esp BENN and EUBANKS, or if it was one person pushing it on everybody else. I don't know, it takes two to tango. I must say though that i am SICK AND TIRED of fucking chris yoobanks right about now. If i never saw his name on this forum again i would not be sorry.

the only possible way to beat Hagler is by decision, because i believe he may be the one fighter that ever lived that was truly unknockoutable, the guy never tasted the canvas in like 70 fights, he fought all kinds of good punchers and was never really wobbled. he would tko benn in the championship rounds Hell ya Hagler was a machine! that straight right he took from HEARNS has got to be the most devastating punch I seen a man take and not even flinch! The punch was so hard it opened up a big gash over his eye! That punch was the same right hand that almost beheaded Duran! man hearns right hand was nothing to hagler.

Anybody who says that Hagler beats Benn easily has no place on a boxing board, Hagler himself would laught at you for saying that. People are saying that Benn beats Hearns, and Hearns was Hagler's toughest fight. HAHAHAH I don't take what you said serious but it is trully funny since I can see you are a nigel benn fan! of course you will get offended. but Hagler would whoop benns ASS! did you see that MUGABI FIGHT? he took those heavy punches from a younger powerful powerful puncher and he put him out giving him his toughest fight and first loss. Nigel Benn is a dirty fighter! I do not respect him what he did to the G MAN was cowardice! he would not stop rabbit punching because he knew he was getting whooped hard by a powerful puncher and boxer. Sore loser.

Also he was at his best when he fought Minter. You see a handful of English idiots (like I see in this forums ) who were throwing bottle of beers inside the ring(like when they make stupid comments) because their supposedly champ was stopped by a cut in the eye. Hagler has been clocking their champ but their too idiot to admit it. Hagler did not receive the belts inside the ring which is the worst crap . What a shameless act. If you are British and you are not idiot don't be offended, there's only handful of them. I am talking to JuJuy, Anorak, Elviel, McKay, Frank can't count and whoever idiot that want to add. ha aha ha

Hagler is one of my all-time favs...but i hinestly don't know if i ever saw him fight in his prime. The earliest Hagler fight i remember was against Minter(that was before auntofermo...right?). But according to JUYJUY this was not a hagler in his prime. What Fights did hAGler have in his prime that i could find on tape somewhere? In my opinion, Hagler was at his best when he was younger and sharper as a counter-puncher rather than an all-out slugger. I honestly believe that the Hagler of around 1977-1978 would soundly beat the Hagler that toppled Mugabi.