Negotiations have stopped for Anthony Mundine to challenge WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzage in Cardiff, Wales on September 10. The management of the former WBA 168 pound champion Mundine would not agree to have the Australian being promoted in four of his championship fights (options) if he was successful in taking the crown from the Welshman. Mundine was very impressive in a losing a twelve round decision to WBA super middleweight champion Mikkell Kessler in Sydney last month in what experts regard as the Aboriginal's best ring performance.
Ridiculous. Worse than Don King. Warren demanded options on FOUR FIGHTS after Mundine beat Calzaghe?
What a fukkin' theiving moron.
Ha ha ha ha ha. You stupid idiot. Obviously Kid Lewis was the best British boxer at that time but how the hell you gonna tell me he was rated higher than Dempsey you piece of shit. Britton beat him 3 out of 5 and Carpienter knock him out on the first round you stupid out. That's the problem for all you British idiot, you always overhype British champion like they are the WORLD BEST until we find out the mediocrity. Kid Lewis was not on Ring MAg top 80, that's real idiot. Ring Mag will make mistakes but on well thought process, they won't make 80 mistakes. If you gonna tell me Kid Lewis was the WORLD BEST then Ring Mag would have at laest mention him in top 10. but hell no you piece of shiet, he was on the list of next to never. And don't post like Joe Louis is the best because you became oxymoron you piece of shiet.
Rated number 1 in the world when he was boxing, you actually gonna make me belive he was rated higher then Jack Johnson and Dempsey, who da phukk are ya fooling. THta's your sorry opinion idiot. You said he was the BEST BOXER IN THE WORLD now he's top 20 material, get back you idiot. Britton beat him 3 out of five and Britton ain't in top 80. Ring Mag can be doddy or whatever but their opinion is freaking zillion times better than your nitwit brain. The top 80 was a well thought process I believe. ANd Ring MAg cannot possibly make 80 mistakes. SO take that you sour griping idiots.
RING Magazine can make 8 million mistakes and probably have done, nothing is set in stone.
Ted Lewis was number one in the world of boxing at one time and many journalists have him top 20 of all-time.
Ted Lewis and Jack Britton fought a 20-30 fight series.
Its hard to rate Calzaghe's ability, he's not the slickest boxer around but there are not many as effective. His real talent is his physical ability, he's got great hand speed and power. He throws a few shots that look like slaps but if you throw a fast combo of hooks(To head) its hard not to do that, infact its the only way you can do it at the speed he throws them.
I think Calzaghe has been ducked a lot, there's no doubt that Ottke, Hopkins and Tarver avoided him but he doesnt do himself any favours, he doesnt generate the same of money as Hatton does so he cant give opponents the huge paydays Warren give Tszyu to fight in the UK. Being the boss at Super middle i dont think he should have to leave his own country but i wish he would, if i were him i'd be in the US getting my name about, if the US fans start seeing him fighting regular then the fighters who have been ducking him will have no choice but to fight him.
He's definitely got a box office style too and could make some serious cash over there. As you say, he doesn't generate the same kind of money as Hatton does over here so he's got less of an excuse to stay at home, fear of flying aside.
Calzaghe probably is really good. But because of Warren's reluctance to secure him a meaningful fight against a good opponent we will never know HOW good he is.
Its hard to rate Calzaghe's ability, he's not the slickest boxer around but there are not many as effective. His real talent is his physical ability, he's got great hand speed and power. He throws a few shots that look like slaps but if you throw a fast combo of hooks(To head) its hard not to do that, infact its the only way you can do it at the speed he throws them.
I think Calzaghe has been ducked a lot, there's no doubt that Ottke, Hopkins and Tarver avoided him but he doesnt do himself any favours, he doesnt generate the same of money as Hatton does so he cant give opponents the huge paydays Warren give Tszyu to fight in the UK. Being the boss at Super middle i dont think he should have to leave his own country but i wish he would, if i were him i'd be in the US getting my name about, if the US fans start seeing him fighting regular then the fighters who have been ducking him will have no choice but to fight him.
Calzaghe probably is really good. But because of Warren's reluctance to secure him a meaningful fight against a good opponent we will never know HOW good he is.
Calzaghe is sayinng how he wants to fight Lacy, Tarver, and Johnson, but what he must do is first realize that Jeff Lacy is not going to be an easy bout. I don't think that he is going to have the belt in the middle of next year. I think Lacy will conquer the Super Middleweights by the end of next year.
Its been said for years about Calzaghe,good fighter he just needs a defining fight,well I am sorry but Warren will not let one of his best money earners take the risk.He should of had the defining fight years ago,time is running out for Calzaghe.Warren does it with all his boxers makes them fight no marks to make money.Credit to Hatton he got his defining fight because he made Warren get it for him,why didnt Calzaghe!
Rated number 1 in the world when he was boxing, you actually gonna make me belive he was rated higher then Jack Johnson and Dempsey, who da phukk are ya fooling. THta's your sorry opinion idiot. You said he was the BEST BOXER IN THE WORLD now he's top 20 material, get back you idiot. Britton beat him 3 out of five and Britton ain't in top 80. Ring Mag can be doddy or whatever but their opinion is freaking zillion times better than your nitwit brain. The top 80 was a well thought process I believe. ANd Ring MAg cannot possibly make 80 mistakes. SO take that you sour griping idiots.
HA HA HA HA/ That's what I though suckers, you idiots won't fool nobody here when I'm around. Like Frank the Tank miscalculating Hopkins big purse. ha ha ha And Juyjuy candidly calling Kid LEwis the WORLD BEST BOXER. booooooo
No miscalculation, it would have been his biggest purse to date at that time.Hahaha. You're taking away my fun when you keep embarassing yourself so please ease up on it and let me do it for you.
HA HA HA HA/ That's what I though suckers, you idiots won't fool nobody here when I'm around. Like Frank the Tank miscalculating Hopkins big purse. ha ha ha And Juyjuy candidly calling Kid LEwis the WORLD BEST BOXER. booooooo
Everybody's got opinion here and it could be sorry like JuyJuy and It could be great like when you refer to Ring Mag. Ring Magazine goes way back before all of us were born so they know boxing. Idiots this bible of boxing. Ring Mag cannot possibly makes 80 mistakes. You cannot call Kid Lewis the BEST BOXER IN THE WORLD when he's not on top 80 cuz if you said so, Ring MMag just made 80 mistakes. And that's when I conclude that you're full of shiet.
Well Ted Lewis was rated number one in the world when he was boxing.
Great boxing historians such as Colin Hart, Harry Carpenter and Reg Gutteridge all rate Ted Lewis as top 20 all-time lb4lb material.
The Ring is often very dodgy and always has been, as you and everybody knows, a lot of stuff in The Ring leaves us scratching our heads and always has.
HA HA HA HA/ That's what I though suckers, you idiots won't fool nobody here when I'm around. Like Frank the Tank miscalculating Hopkins big purse. ha ha ha And Juyjuy candidly calling Kid LEwis the WORLD BEST BOXER. booooooo
Everybody's got opinion here and it could be sorry like JuyJuy and It could be great like when you refer to Ring Mag. Ring Magazine goes way back before all of us were born so they know boxing. Idiots this bible of boxing. Ring Mag cannot possibly makes 80 mistakes. You cannot call Kid Lewis the BEST BOXER IN THE WORLD when he's not on top 80 cuz if you said so, Ring MMag just made 80 mistakes. And that's when I conclude that you're full of shiet.
YA British idiots can shut da phukk up, If you cannot answer what Calzaghe beat that is a career defining win, then all you zip your sorry loser azz until he did something. Right now he has not done nothing.
The medication's still not working then?
YA British idiots can shut da phukk up, If you cannot answer what Calzaghe beat that is a career defining win, then all you zip your sorry loser azz until he did something. Right now he has not done nothing.
Your so clever :rolleyes:
Well most people agree that The Ring is pretty damn corrupt, it's generally known that most people are left scratching their heads at a lot of stuff that comes out of The Ring.
I always say that the best thing to do is judge for yourself, just like with all the alphabet crap we've got these days and barely ever know who the best is in each division.. I try not to be inspired by others opinions which differs from group to group and try to just judge for myself, that's the conclusion I've come to with this boxing game.
And JuyJuy don't be calling that Kid Lewis the best boxer in the WORLD when he's not on Ring Mag top 80 fighters. Ring Mag does not make 80 mistakes you stupid idiot.
YA British idiots can shut da phukk up, If you cannot answer what Calzaghe beat that is a career defining win, then all you zip your sorry loser azz until he did something. Right now he has not done nothing.
he is "scared of flying" apparently so wouldnt go stateside, though im not sure how he got to get ringside for Mosely V de la hoya II, swim?
They must have drugged him, BA style. :D
Eubank, Brewer, Sheika, Reid, Woodhall, Mitchell. You can't argue with that.
Calzaghe was willing to fight Hopkins and/or Jones anywhere, but they didn't want to know.
some good arguements for both sides here, im firmly in the middle on this, Joe hasnt exactly given his all to ensure the fights get made neither, he is very talented but his career is in danger of stagnating, i dont think hopkins nor jones ran scared of Joe but he is "scared of flying" apparently so wouldnt go stateside, though im not sure how he got to get ringside for Mosely V de la hoya II, swim?
the truth probably lies in beween the fact that Nard and RJJ could have fought better opposition and Joe could have as well.
it usually does in such cases.