in boxing nothin is worse then noneffective agressiveness

who you calling a freak? I can't wait to see it. My interest has peaked. I've heard comments ranging from Taylor won easy to Hopkins won 9 rounds. can't wait thanks Lol, YOU, have no doubt about it, FREAK! :D Actually, I could live with a draw but gave it to taylor by 2....not a whole hell of alot but enough to win it (in my opinion anyway)..but it was not what I'd call 'easy' for either guy, and Nard winning 9 is stretching it so far it breaks! Nard simply didnt do enough for far too long..you know the story by now I'm sure.

as usual, I look forward to reading your input, since youre a boxing freak and actually know what the hell youre talking about (ummhhhh, most of the time anyway :p ) ;) who you calling a freak? I can't wait to see it. My interest has peaked. I've heard comments ranging from Taylor won easy to Hopkins won 9 rounds. can't wait thanks

actually Tracy, I haven't seen it yet. I was more referring to the media guys I've spoken to who were ringside. That seemed to be the overwhelming opinion ringside. I will see it this weekend and give my personal thoughts after that. I should have worded that post better :o as usual, I look forward to reading your input, since youre a boxing freak and actually know what the hell youre talking about (ummhhhh, most of the time anyway :p ) ;)

so dave, you scored it a win for hopkins? actually Tracy, I haven't seen it yet. I was more referring to the media guys I've spoken to who were ringside. That seemed to be the overwhelming opinion ringside. I will see it this weekend and give my personal thoughts after that. I should have worded that post better :o

Give the names of the fighter that are aggresive but effective. 1) Pacquiao 2) Morales 3) Juan Manuel Marquez forget about no. 3 instead put Barrera in there.

The funny thing is Lederman preaches those three rules all the time but always scores aggressiveness even though it's not very effective.

effective aggressiveness ring generalship harder/cleaner shots these are the criteria for scoring bouts...seems some judges forgot that last weekend. so dave, you scored it a win for hopkins?

and that all taylor did he aint do shit but waste his energy..hopkins aint have a scratch he aint hit hopkins clean but once that one left hook..hopkins puffed taylor face all up landed more power shots ahrder power shots and a better percentage effective aggressiveness ring generalship harder/cleaner shots these are the criteria for scoring bouts...seems some judges forgot that last weekend.

"in boxing nothin is worse then noneffective agressiveness" If you land more punches than the other guy, assuming similar impact, you win the round. Hopkins didn't do enough to win the early rounds. It's not rocket science. You can't blame Taylor for winning.

I highly doubt Bernard would have ended his streak by throwing the fight. Come on now guy. Streaks do not get you more money in retirement. Hopkins wins in every way money wise, and then gets vindication for the contraversal loss. Its business.

I highly doubt Bernard would have ended his streak by throwing the fight. Come on now guy.

the perfect example of ineffective aggression is DLH-Sturm

Boxing is a sport. Professional Boxing is entertainment more than sport. Promoters are looking for fighters that excite crowds, and that are agressive. For professional boxing to survive, and for fans to keep filling up venues, and for fighters to keep getting the big paydays, it takes the exciting fighters to keep the public interested. It is the paying fans that want excitement. There are few boxing fans that watch professional boxing for the sport. It is all about keeping the customer entertained. The exciting fighters are the ones that bring in the money, and therefore the establishment will always favor a aggressive fighter over a dull fighter. Hopkins has been in this sport for many years, he says he is aware of how the system works, and has done everything to battle that system. Well Hopkins was a fool on Saturday, he had a chance to close the show and KO Taylor , but fought with no real urgency in the last 2 rounds while Taylor was exhausted. My thinking is that Hopkins knew what he was doing. He threw the fight. Hopkins knew that he was behind in the fight, and decided to close the Gap in rounds 9-12. But when Taylor got hurt with a counter right , he was forced to pull back and let Taylor recoup. Hopkins was not that upset at the end of the fight. There was no cry for a investagation, but there is a rematch clause. So make even more money on the rematch, and at that time Hopkins will come out and beat Taylor easily, like he was suppose to the first time. This will make Hopkins look like a greater fighter than ever. The Closing comments to the HBOPPV broadcast by Manny Steward rang true. He mentioned that Hopkins had many opportunites to hurt Taylor, but didnt. Hopkins is a great fighter with many weapons, but only chose to use the counter right all night. Both statements that Steward made are true, and lead me to believe that a fight was thrown. By Hopkins tied to another fight with Taylor, this leaves out the possibility of Hopkins fighting Wright. I believe Hopkins did the right thing in a business sense. He lost the fight, but not without contraversy, and now will make more on the rematch, and at the same time will be able to beat Taylor easily which will award him a higher status in history, and lastly not having to fight Wright a more dangerous opponent.

You all act as if Hopkins didn't even come out of his corner and Taylor shadowboxed the entire time.

not doing shyt is worse.

I thought you have to "decisevly" take the belts away from another fighter. Taylor did not do that to say the least. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

When you're fighting on a professional level at anything, just trying is not good enough. but not trying or barely trying is just not good period.

When you're fighting on a professional level at anything, just trying is not good enough. Trying is better than doing ZERO.

in boxing nothin is worse then noneffective agressiveness actually, there are a couple of things worse..one of them being doing absolutely NOTHING for 8 freaking rd's...assuming you can ko somebody, or win a fight by winning nothing but the championship rds. I think thats not only much worse, but over-assuming and boring as hell!

omg ppl r never goign to get over this