Who Exactley Did Roy Jones Jr Duck??????

If there was only one belt and one set of top 10 then Roy wouldnt have had Dariusz Michalczewski out there chilling in europe with a belt claiming to also be the best, there would be only one and it would have forced that fight. Not saying Roys fault it didnt happen but you get chit like that because you have 4 champions (somehow even more these days) in a division and each ABC organization has their separate top 10 rankings who all like to keep their own lists, so you got almost 40 guys in the "top 10" at the weight. Him talking about floyd not unifying all the belts is laughable when floyd clearly has the better resume and didnt camp out for long periods of time at the same weight fighting guys like David Telesco, I mean look at his resume from 98-2002 does anyone even know who the fuk these bums are? having 4 belts with atrocious rankings is what allowed him to camp out like that for 4+ years I cant take anyone serious that argues that a system which let Adrian Broner become a "4 division champ" has been a positive thing for the sport. Roy was Floyd before Floyd was Floyd.

Chris Eubank said fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

It's not just bout money, its bout money with the less risk invovled. Edit: He did beat Toney but Toney was 200 at camp and came late to camp. Toney was dry the first 5 roundsof w hole fight, not a drop of water on his body = signs of dehydration. Toney would beat roy second time coming - -What grade U graduate this year? 3rd? TwoTon Toney had 2 days to replenish that included TUEs. U mom know U on an adult website?

Im tired of hearing all this he ducked allot of people...CAn someone tell me who these people are that he ducked....The one I hear the most is That Darius dude but he wouldnt come over here to fight so how is Jones duckin him cuz he didnt wanna go over there.... - -Musta still been in diapers not to know on the eve of simultaneously breaking Joe Louis 25 title defenses and Rocco's 49-0 mark, he came to an HBO fight with Roy fighting or commenting it throw down the gauntlet of a legacy fight that doubled Roy $5 mil HBO guarantee. But HBO didn't have that kind of $ and Roy wouldn't travel to Germany which was well into developing all the higher weight classes with higher rankings than Americans and Brits could manage.

If there was only one belt and one set of top 10 then Roy wouldnt have had Dariusz Michalczewski out there chilling in europe with a belt claiming to also be the best, there would be only one and it would have forced that fight. Not saying Roys fault it didnt happen but you get chit like that because you have 4 champions (somehow even more these days) in a division and each ABC organization has their separate top 10 rankings who all like to keep their own lists, so you got almost 40 guys in the "top 10" at the weight. Him talking about floyd not unifying all the belts is laughable when floyd clearly has the better resume and didnt camp out for long periods of time at the same weight fighting guys like David Telesco, I mean look at his resume from 98-2002 does anyone even know who the fuk these bums are? having 4 belts with atrocious rankings is what allowed him to camp out like that for 4+ years I cant take anyone serious that argues that a system which let Adrian Broner become a "4 division champ" has been a positive thing for the sport.

bump ...there are some real interesting views on the first pages of this thread :boxing:

Hmm Toney had dehydration vs Roy, and lost, but that doesn't mean he lost because he was dehydrated. Toney never had a moment in the fight. Toney supposedly wasn't dehydrated vs Nunn, and was embarrassed by him until he lucked up and got the KO (not to say Toney was lucky, it was a result of skill, but Toney was lucky he got the KO because he was on his way to a UD loss). Roy's hands are a bit better than Nunn's and his footspeed/movement is clearly better. Roy's style is bad for Toney. Toney's a very skilled guy all-time, but even if he was hydrated vs Roy, he still would have lost. Roy was too focused for that fight.

If any of you believe that Roy Jones was steroid-free then I'm not posting in this thread again, pull your heads of your asses.

He used steroids. I believe the only time he tested positive for them was in the fight with Richard Hall & even Hall tested positive for them too.

It's not just bout money, its bout money with the less risk invovled. Edit: He did beat Toney but Toney was 200 at camp and came late to camp. Toney was dry the first 5 roundsof w hole fight, not a drop of water on his body = signs of dehydration. Toney would beat roy second time coming

Please dude; after Roy beat Toney he was recognized as P4P one of the best. He wrote his own meal ticket after that.

All the others that were in Europe?? WTF Okay, him and DM was kind of mutual ducking. Do you really need further clarification?

QUOTE "Why the fuck would he duck anyone on that list. Roy likes money, and the only thing he'll duck is a fighter that can't put the asses in the chairs." QUOTE Benn and Eubank were making much more money than Roy Jones was at the time, if he wanted big paydays he should of come to England and fought Eubank after beating Toney or should of fought Benn in England or America after the Benn-McClellan fight. But Jones was more concerned about his health and keeing his unbeaten record, he wouldn't take risks.

All the others that were in Europe?? WTF Oh and I wouldn't call Benn and Eubank European fighters :rolleyes: There was nothing European about them.

i AGREE!!! Roy wanted to fight mike tyson. He ended up beating ruiz. Why the fuck would he duck anyone on that list. Roy likes money, and the only thing he'll duck is a fighter that can't put the asses in the chairs. Putting mccallum on your list proves your stupid. I agree 100% with what you stated, you know your shit leather knuckle sandwich.

Going back to last night's discussion. You failed to mention American fighters who were guilty of ducking European fighters. You could have mentioned Roy Jones. He ducked Benn, Eubank, Collins and all the others that were in Europe. All the others that were in Europe?? WTF

Not sure what your getting at? Going back to last night's discussion. You failed to mention American fighters who were guilty of ducking European fighters. You could have mentioned Roy Jones. He ducked Benn, Eubank, Collins and all the others that were in Europe.

All you brits that want to talk about American fighters ducking British fighters? (JUY JUY I mean you.) Jones is a good example of this. He shamelessly ducked the talented middle and super middleweights of Europe and the UK. Not sure what your getting at?

All you brits that want to talk about American fighters ducking British fighters? (JUY JUY I mean you.) Jones is a good example of this. He shamelessly ducked the talented middle and super middleweights of Europe and the UK.

I agree 100%. I'm supprised nobody stated those facts previously. mckay is clearly using cheap comebacks for an argument he can't win. Cheers leather.