Why did Ali have so much trouble with Norton?

McKay's fast becoming my favourite poster on here. :) To deduce someone had a bum chin because they got KOed early by the two men who were arguably the hardest hitting heavyweights in history is not much of a logical debate... though I bet if Tyson was below 220 he would have been able to take those shots. Very good Anorak...Mckay usually interjects the "Tyson weight factor" aspect in every thread he responds to, but you beat him to the punch! :p

Norton wasn't overated, he just came along at the wrong time. He fought not just one lucky, once in a lifetime fight with Ali, but 3 times he basically fought Ali to a draw. He just had the misfortune of being there with Foreman and Shavers. IMO, Norton would clean out the division today. He was that good and that's still not saying much. By the by, if you ever get a chance to watch any of his fights with Ali or his fight with Holmes, I highly recommend it. Great BOXING matches. Very tactical fights, especially the Ali fights. Not knock down, drag out bloodbaths, just good, solid PROFESSIONAL PRIZEFIGHTERS.

styles make fights plain and simple

Norton was kinda fascinating. He gave absolute hell to Holmes & Ali....but folded to the likes of Foreman & Shavers. The belief is that Norton froze terribly against men he knew could hurt him. He took punches from Jerry Quarry (who Norton carved up) & Quarry was a good puncher. But Quarry was not a fearsome hitter like Shavers, Foreman, or Cooney. Norton wasn't overrated, because I don't hear people claiming he was any better than he was.

norton had great defense crab defense like archie moore...archie moore traned norton this what larry holmes told me Norton's defence was not to good vs Shavers and Foreman. He was KO'd first round by Shavers 2nd by Foreman. Norton's chin kinda sucked, you have to deduce that because there is really no other excuse since he did have good defence.

Norton was a pitbull man that's why he gave Ali trouble.

Answer this question for me. Is Ken Norton overrated? simple amswer, styles make fights, ali even said it himself.

Norton broke Ali's effin jaw in the 2nd round If you were to only believe Ali's words on the subject, then yes. Who knows for sure, though.

Yeah, that's true. I read about Eddie Futch devising it as a psychological weapon. Norton did the unorthodox thing of throwing his jab at the same time as Ali threw his. So he would be connecting because Ali wasn't expecting it, and unconsciously Ali believed his jab was as fast as his own. It wasn't, but it was a trick that worked and threw him off his game. That is true, and you can see that when they fight. Futch picked up on the fact that Ali dropped his right hand a bit every single time he threw a jab, and he got Norton to throw a jab every time Ali threw one. Norton also fought smart when he was able to back Ali up with the jab, and instead of trying to head hunt when Ali was on the ropes, Norton concentrated more on going to the body and he did so effectively. Of course, Norton also landed plenty of right hands throughout their fights, and that ws also a useful weapon for him. Is Norton overrated? Well, back in 1998 The Ring came up with a ranking of who they thought were the 50 greatest Heavyweights of all-time...Norton was slotted in the 22nd spot overall, so you can form your own opinion on that one.

Norton broke Ali's effin jaw in the 2nd round

norton was the wrong guy for ali... although norton never beat any other top guy, he gave ali hell... styles makes fights... norton is a reason why i beleive homes and lewis would have been tough fights for ali..

norton had great defense crab defense like archie moore...archie moore traned norton this what larry holmes told me

Didn't Norton break Ali's jaw in the first fight? Yeah he did in the first fight.

If you notice early in the first fight, Norton was establishing the jab on ali. His akward defense allowed him to block power shots, and he did a good job distancing himself. Not running away, but landing them effectively. Yes, I think Norton was overrated as a fighter. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Answer this question for me. Is Ken Norton overrated? Didn't Norton break Ali's jaw in the first fight?