I have read two published reports( most recent from ESPN.com) that PBF could be in the ring as soon as this fall againist WBO Welterweight Champion Antonio Margarito. If this is true, IMO I believe Margarito will stop PBF. The only thing Floyd has in his favor is his speed and that Margarito is a slow starter. I stated that Margarito is a bigger version of Jose Luis Castillo with more boxing skill and power, you know the guy who beat PBF in his first fight at 135 (just the judges did not see it that way) The reason that if I were PFB, I would go after Zab instead this of guy, is that this guy is technically sound, has a chin, and get's get unbelievably stronger as the fight goes on (unlike the fighter at 140). I believe Margarito will stop PBF late. What do all you boxing fans think?
Alot of fighters have weight issuses, but only some get called out on it. That was one of peoples excuses for Margarito about Santos. Weight issuses are just something for fanboys to nag about. Are you postive about fighters weights? Do you know all of them? If they pass the weigh in, let them be...
You tell that to John McCain and Joey Gamache I watch...talk to you later brother!
Please, why is it that Mexicans on adverage have records over 50? Like Castillo/Chavez, than only get noticed at the end of their careers? Cotto has been fighting Mayweather left overs, and Olimpic fighters, Abbie was a gold medalist, far from a bum, and allways on good terms. Take the hateraid easy, dude. :)
Hateraid meaning gatoraid right? YES!
It is good to know that we are both takin it easy for all those sinners out there-we are in agreeance Cotto has never fought any bums.
1 question I watch and I would appreicate an answer...how come HBO has stopped showing Miguel's fight night weight, I am a very ignorant fan which you have already pointed out and Im just wondering why he has not given a fight time weight recently...do you have it I try and keep it for my records...you see my wifes cousin is Joey Gamache and we are compiling as much info on weight issues before and the night of the fights-we hoipe to get enogh information so we can make a presentation to Congress next summer...
If you have the info I would be greatful, we cannot have another Arturo Gatti v. Joey Gamache now can we...just think I watch you and me can help prevent that.
Judah/May (outside) versus Hatton (inside)
Doesn't matter who's in front of Hatton, he'd definitely keep throwing continuously, hitting your arms, shoulders, hips and also the occasional good head/body shot. He's rough and good at it, by throwing and then throwing some more. He leads and expects the counter, but also expects to get inside where he's best suited.
May or Judah would be forced to choose their shots and then show Hatton some good movement. Twelve rounds of that is tiring, especially since Hatton would keep coming forward while throwing (although some ugly stuff).
I don't see either Judah or May having any easy fight with this guy, even if Hatton's defense is not so good. Hatton's defense is his offense, he roughs you up and keeps you active, or you don't keep him outside.
May and Judah are defintely not built for Hatton's all-night inside kinda' fight. BUT, either May or Judah in top-tier condition would be ready to go through 12 rounds of stick and move, and Ricky would be chasing these guys for ever, while getting popped popped and popped.
1. Barrera - Great fighter, beat Morales, had a off day when got ass kicked by Pacman. The best ever! Never fought bums coughfanacough
2.Morales - Beat everyone who kicked Barreras ass, won all three Barrera fights! No bums...
3.Castillo - Wasnt dominated by Casamayor, or beaten twice by Mayweather, and was cheated by the ref in the Corrales fight, never fought any bums!
4.Rafael Marquez - was only KO'd twice. No bums
5.JMM - Has a draw with PACMAN...wow! No bums
6. Margarito - BEAT CINTRON, WOW!super dude, and those Puerto Ricans screwed him two fights in a row by making his head bleed than giving the other fighter points! Fuck!
7.Juan Diaz - Baby Bull, young fighter who throws hunderds and hunderds of punches, to beat his non bum opponets down!
Too many to name ;), I added one cause I remen...huh..misplaced his name? I could think of ten....
I new we would get back on good terms I watch...your point is well taken, Mexican fighters love bums, I mean think about it without bums there would never be any really great champions....shit you need bums to build your record and prepare fot the tough fights right?
Imagine if LEnnox Lewis would have said fuck fighting bums I want Tyson right out of the gate in the 80's....it probably would not have been good...what if Cotto said fuck fighting bums I dont do that shit Im Puerto Rican and his first fight out of the gate he challneged Tszyu? Not good right?
Take ur easy dude (I watch), I know you will...
1. Barrera - Great fighter, beat Morales, had a off day when got ass kicked by Pacman. The best ever! Never fought bums coughfanacough
2.Morales - Beat everyone who kicked Barreras ass, won all three Barrera fights! No bums...
3.Castillo - Wasnt dominated by Casamayor, or beaten twice by Mayweather, and was cheated by the ref in the Corrales fight, never fought any bums!
4.Rafael Marquez - was only KO'd twice. No bums
5.JMM - Has a draw with PACMAN...wow! No bums
6. Margarito - BEAT CINTRON, WOW!super dude, and those Puerto Ricans screwed him two fights in a row by making his head bleed than giving the other fighter points! Fuck!
7.Juan Diaz - Baby Bull, young fighter who throws hunderds and hunderds of punches, to beat his non bum opponets down!
Too many to name ;), I added one cause I remen...huh..misplaced his name? I could think of ten....
All of these guys have fought some bums along the way.
i think that Floyd, Hatton, and Maussa should arrange a tournament or something....throw Cotto in there too.( why not, it's another belt )and fight for the undisputed championship at 140lbs.
i'd like to see Floyd and Hatton go at it for all the marbles... it would be more of a fight then this last saturdays fight! that for sure!
Well afew decades ago you could of asked if America cared about the blacks, the anwser was clearly no since they were killing them, while segerating races to areas, and its not like I was trying to hide my fanism to Puerto Rican fighters, just look at my avatar/signature.
Regular posters give a shit about you or me, they dont post regularly cause this is a forum for hardcore fans, not really for casual fans, you are not going to change anybodys life by posting here annoying stuff, I will forget all about you once I myself walk out my front door (and I post ALOT)...plus, being gay is a choice, their are all types of gays, you happen to be one in the closet. Simply put "Wow, your irritating me, want a cookie?"
P.S. Cotto will beat Mayweather, if they ever fight. I will love to see your face when that happens, hater.
You have basically used and abused me with this post...very impressed by your overall knowledge here, damn fine job...now lets see where you are a bit off...
You say that being gay is a choice...hmmm Im not so sure we know that for fact but if you are sure then well I wont take your word for it. Is it a choice for some, absolutely but for others????Who knows I will let science straighten this one up...
One question is it bad to be racist but ok to discriminate against alternate lifeestyles...you are obviously not someone who discriminates against anyone because you yourself knows what it is like to be a minority and for you to bash another minority would well make you um...lets just leave it at that since I know you would never bash on a minority weather it be a choice or not.
As for your boy Cotto...hmm I bet you would not bet any significant kind of real money on a fight between him and Floyd. Im not talking 50 bucks or some pussy shit like that Im talking real money...there comes a point when you do have to use yur brain..right?
Anyways you and me will be on the same side if Floyd and Cotto ever square off, I will root like hell for Cotto and almost every other fighter to kick his ass. Im not fond of Men who beat women and I would love nothing more than for Miguel Cotto to thrash Floyd MAyweather...do I thnk it would happend no but I will be rooting for whoever fights Floyd (besides Judah).
I do have a tough time being serious and I am being dead serious here, I did not mean to sound racist, I love everyone, I dont give a fuck if you are a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater, I will help you just the same...you accused me of being a racist and I am partially to blame since I did walk the line and say some things that you may have not gotten...my fault...
Now for your bashing of gays...why accuse me of being racist and almost in the same sentance then bash a minority? Why do this if you are to have any real validity to your point? How can a man call some one a racist and then the next minute call someone a fucking queer? I guess you willl have to explain that one too me later...
Scaps p4p top 10...
1) Ivan Calderon-will this kid ever lose a round, already the greatest strawweight ever!
2)Miguel Cotto-Easily the best prospect that boxing has seen since Sugar Ray Leonard and in my opinion Leonard was a piece of shit!
3)Felix Trinidad-dont let the poor performance vs. Wright fool you everyone knows it was just an off night-after all Don Felix said so!
4)Daniel Santos-can you believe some thought that Margarito beat Santos, what a joke I had it a shut out for Santos!
5)Frez Oquendo-how can you forget that he actually was the HW Champion before one of the grossest robberies in a HW title fight, fuck Byrd is lucky!
6)Manny Siaca-How many times can we beat Byron Mitchel...WTF man!
7)Daniel Seda-Again how can Joel Casamayor have gotten the nod over Super Seda??? Shit after all we floorded his ass and won the second half of the fight-Oh and Mr. Gainer you fucking lucked out!
8)Nelson Dieppa-Ricardo Lopez was one lucky fuck to get out when he did because Nelson would have beaten him down!
9)Johnny Ruiz-I still put you on this list but you are a trader bitch none the less!
10)Jose Carita Lopez-he got fucked against Montiel, those low blows were knockdowns and Marc Ratner knows it, if he ever gets another shot to take down Mexico he will take it!
That is an opinion. A bad one and biased one at that. Magee hits harder than Judah, and is a better counterpuncher.
Hatton's agresson will hurt him. ARe you kidding me? Against a glass jawed guy like Judah. Who the hell do you think Judah is? Evander Holyfield, Floyd Mayweather Jr perhaps. The guy is nowhere near the class of Hatton or Tzyu or Cotto in terms of overall ability. Hatton's relentless agression would have Judah on the canvas in the first round.
It wont even take a Champion like Ricky Hatton to knock Judah out. Probably a journeyman will come along and do it before Ricky ever has a chance to.
How is it a biased opinion? Magee is not a better counterpuncher than Judah.
Hatton's overagression would see him on the canvas in the first round. Judah's counterpunches would be the fastest thing Hatton has ever seen. You can believe Judah's punch is overrated but when Hatton doesn't see those punches coming he will be put down. Judah will land at will on Hatton.
Only one person has knocked Judah out and that was Kostya Tszyu. I haven't see anyone else come close to knocking Judah out. You can quit dreaming of some journeyman knocking Judah out. It isn't happening.
I am confident that Hatton would KO Judah in the 1st round since Tzyu was able to do it in two and Hatton is better than Tzyu but even with this confidence I am not going to put that much stake on it, because unlike you I always pay up when I lose. Why, because I have character and honesty, something of which you do not know the definition of.
Are u serious, first off that was a perfectly landed punch. Secondly, Zab not only pays better attention in fights now but has power to hurt Hatton. This fight in my eyes is about even but first round ko who are u kidding.
Also Judah does not have a glass jaw.
Judah is no Eamonn Magee because he is better than Eamonn Magee. Hatton probably could take one punch at a time from Judah but what's going to happen when he lands 3 or 4 at a time. Hatton's agression will just get him hurt.
That is an opinion. A bad one and biased one at that. Magee hits harder than Judah, and is a better counterpuncher.
Hatton's agresson will hurt him. ARe you kidding me? Against a glass jawed guy like Judah. Who the hell do you think Judah is? Evander Holyfield, Floyd Mayweather Jr perhaps. The guy is nowhere near the class of Hatton or Tzyu or Cotto in terms of overall ability. Hatton's relentless agression would have Judah on the canvas in the first round.
It wont even take a Champion like Ricky Hatton to knock Judah out. Probably a journeyman will come along and do it before Ricky ever has a chance to.
I think Hatton will get koed by Mayweather. Yes, Hatton is a very good body puncher, has great stamina, and a chin but he lacks several thing. His defense is not tight what so ever. That is very bad against someone with fast accurate punches like Floyd. Floyd also has superior footwork and defense. Hatton will get his shots in but gone down in round 8 or 9 after taking a beating.
Stylewise it is a great matchup because Judah has a chin crafted of finely made glass and he cant deal with Hatton's agresson, grit, or punch, and Judah's "power" which you so speak of is drastically overrated. Hatton could take Judah's punches even if they landed flush. Judah is no Eamonn Magee. Even when Magee knocked down Hatton he was up quick and ready to fight Joe Frazier style.
Judah is no Eamonn Magee because he is better than Eamonn Magee. Hatton probably could take one punch at a time from Judah but what's going to happen when he lands 3 or 4 at a time. Hatton's agression will just get him hurt.
just because judah got koed by possibly the hardest puncher at 147 at the time doesn't mean he has a glass jaw...he just got caught. I would rather see cotto v. hatton the matchup screams fight of the year to me. I think the matchup between mayweather and judah also has the makings of a great fight because mayweather won't be caring alot of power up at the weight and their speed is pretty equal. There has been so much arguing in the thread I kind of forgot what we were talking about but I guess the question of mayweathers next fight should either be the winner of cott/hatton or either zab drops down or he comes up to 147. I hate to be a Tyszu nuthugger as they say but I thik he could give hatton a run for his money if the fight were over here. I mean is tyszu still fighting if so I think a gatti v. tyszu matchup would be a huge draw and another big payday for Kostya and Gatti.
Hatton is wide open at all times and hasn't shown that he can deal with a fighter with great foot movement. Judah can movement in and out on his opponents as well as fight at different angles. His punch is also pretty good and his handspeed is one of the fastest in the world. Judah's punches would get to Hatton quicker and easier than any of Hatton's punches. Stylewise Judah is not a good matchup for Hatton in my opinion.
Stylewise it is a great matchup because Judah has a chin crafted of finely made glass and he cant deal with Hatton's agresson, grit, or punch, and Judah's "power" which you so speak of is drastically overrated. Hatton could take Judah's punches even if they landed flush. Judah is no Eamonn Magee. Even when Magee knocked down Hatton he was up quick and ready to fight Joe Frazier style.
Hatton is wide open at all times and hasn't shown that he can deal with a fighter with great foot movement. Judah can movement in and out on his opponents as well as fight at different angles. His punch is also pretty good and his handspeed is one of the fastest in the world. Judah's punches would get to Hatton quicker and easier than any of Hatton's punches. Stylewise Judah is not a good matchup for Hatton in my opinion.
I'd still talk about them, and will still enjoy conversating about them.
I don't mean to be critical, but conversating is not a word. The proper word is conversing. Just food for thought.
McKay do you believe that styles make fights?
Just because Judah lost to Tszyu doesn't necessarily mean Hatton would beat Judah.
They only thing I need to know about Hatton is that he is rugged with grade AA stamina, a good punch, and a good chin.
All I need to know about Judah is that his chin is trash and against a rugged tough high workrate skilled fighter like Hatton he would get flattened. Judah is the most overrated fighter on this website by a wide margin, and probably the most overrated fighter in all of the boxing press by a wide margin. This is just my opinion of course.
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