Why the hell are all you people bitching about nothing?

Who cares, theyre both bums

i cant say what whats going on cause i'm not in the know, but is it possible that when toney balked at the initial split for the fight, VK looked into fighting oleg, cause sept 24 would be too soon for barrett/rahman and brewster has a mandatory against kranski(spelling??) and maybe he felt like he needed a tune up fight after 2 injuries.... i agree oleg is weak, but so was golota and fres and they got 2 title shots(3 for AG)...

Well I gotta say, Im gonna be pretty disappointed in Vitali if he doesnt fight the Rachman/Barrett winner. Seems to me, his status as a beltholder would compel him to do nothing else. Maybe they mean that their scheduling the Maskaev fight for AFTER the title defense? The articles are FREE on boxingtalk. The point is, you're the 2nd person to post this drivel, and you could have found the answer on your own if you had just taken the time to look instead of crying about it. Why should anyone post links for you when you're too lazy to look for yourself? Finkle is PAID to represent Klitschko, and negotiate on his behalf. What you seem to be saying is that he was acting without Vitali's knowledge when they were admittedly deep into discussions with Maskiev? Snap out of it. Vitali's camp WAS looking at this fight, but with no backing from HBO, it's now quashed. He seems dead set on fighting in Sept, and if that's the case, its 90% certian Rahman and Barrett won't be ready, so he's looking at other options. Thankfully, HBO doesn't seem willing to promote another Danny Williams-type defense, so he will likely fight a top fighter, or wait a month or so for the Rahman Barrett winner.

You idiots.... (17-June) Moments ago Vitali Klitschko's advisor Shelly Finkel responded to our interview with Dan Goossen by basically telling us that Goossen was full of it. At first Team Klitschko offered Toney 35% of the pot, only to have Goossen and Toney respond by demanding parity on Boxingtalk. Finkel explained that after Toney demanded 50-50 Team Klitschko offered Toney a $3M guarantee with a bonus if the fight took place for the WBC title. "When they came up with the 50-50, I tried to find another way to get it done and e haven't heard back from them since we offered the $3M." With Toney now willing to accept 60-40 does that change anything regarding Klitschko's next fight? According to Finkel it's highly doubtful "because we're already pretty far along with the Maskaev fight." Stay tuned to Boxingtalk for all the latest. If you can't figue out who Shelly Finkle is and what his relationship to Klitschko is, then you're on your own. I already went and pasted the article you should have gone to look for on your own. Well I gotta say, Im gonna be pretty disappointed in Vitali if he doesnt fight the Rachman/Barrett winner. Seems to me, his status as a beltholder would compel him to do nothing else. Maybe they mean that their scheduling the Maskaev fight for AFTER the title defense?

As I told the other twit who posted the EXACT same thread you did, do your homework before making a post like this. Go to boxingtalk and look for the articles yourself. There are several by and about SHELLY FINKLE (Vitali's advisor) who admits several times over they are looking at Maskiev, and deep into discussions with him. HBO has now said they will not promote this fight, so it's not happening. Well, since Im not stupid enough to pay a website for news, why don't you link the articles you're talking about here so we can read them. Incidentally, if what you say is true, all you can really say is that FINKLE has been talking about trying to MAYBE get a fight together. And that in no way equates to Vitali himself, who has the last word, by the way, being interested in the fight in any way. Twit.

Maskaev says he wants Vitali... Vitali has said nothing about Maskaev. You idiots.... (17-June) Moments ago Vitali Klitschko's advisor Shelly Finkel responded to our interview with Dan Goossen by basically telling us that Goossen was full of it. At first Team Klitschko offered Toney 35% of the pot, only to have Goossen and Toney respond by demanding parity on Boxingtalk. Finkel explained that after Toney demanded 50-50 Team Klitschko offered Toney a $3M guarantee with a bonus if the fight took place for the WBC title. "When they came up with the 50-50, I tried to find another way to get it done and e haven't heard back from them since we offered the $3M." With Toney now willing to accept 60-40 does that change anything regarding Klitschko's next fight? According to Finkel it's highly doubtful "because we're already pretty far along with the Maskaev fight." Stay tuned to Boxingtalk for all the latest. If you can't figue out who Shelly Finkle is and what his relationship to Klitschko is, then you're on your own. I already went and pasted the article you should have gone to look for on your own.

:D I won't tell...

Who are you? Its a secret

Walter Payton sucks. Barry Sanders is the best RUNNINGback of all time and you know it. Who are you?

Maskaev says he wants Vitali... Vitali has said nothing about Maskaev. What's the big deal? Vitali's not going to give this never-was-no-name bum a shot. Walter Payton sucks. Barry Sanders is the best RUNNINGback of all time and you know it.

Maskaev says he wants Vitali... Vitali has said nothing about Maskaev. What's the big deal? Vitali's not going to give this never-was-no-name bum a shot.

As I told the other twit who posted the EXACT same thread you did, do your homework before making a post like this. Go to boxingtalk and look for the articles yourself. There are several by and about SHELLY FINKLE (Vitali's advisor) who admits several times over they are looking at Maskiev, and deep into discussions with him. HBO has now said they will not promote this fight, so it's not happening. I am glad to hear it won't happen because I think its a meaningless fight.

So you guys are basing all this on an article that says that Maskaev's promoter CLAIMS to have been in contacts with the Klitschko camp? What does that mean? Been in contact. What, they called Vitali and asked for a fight? That doesnt mean anything. You no reason, based on that article to believe that the fight will take place, or that Vitali has any interest in it. You're gonna have to do better than that. As I told the other twit who posted the EXACT same thread you did, do your homework before making a post like this. Go to boxingtalk and look for the articles yourself. There are several by and about SHELLY FINKLE (Vitali's advisor) who admits several times over they are looking at Maskiev, and deep into discussions with him. HBO has now said they will not promote this fight, so it's not happening.

dont make me do a posts search on you to find all of the posts where you have jumped on news yourself...

This one comes from fightnews: http://www.fightnews.com/greene39.htm Maskaev Seeks Redemption! Today Dale Crowe, Tomorrow The World June 20, 2005 By David Greene Heavyweight Oleg Maskaev and daughter Victoria in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. --Photo by David Greene Sometimes things cannot be controlled; such was the case when a press conference announcing the ESPN 2's Friday Night Fights card from Atlantic City, featuring heavyweight contender Oleg Maskaev and Ohio's Dale Crowe, was moved from one restaurant to another when the restaurant suffered a power failure. Now with a new camp that includes promoter extrordinaire Dennis Rappaport, manager Fred Kesch, trainer Victor Valle, Jr., and strength conditioner Harrison Skeets, Maskaev is on a road that could take him straight to the top, and a date with heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko. Rappaport explained, "We may have an announcement that will catch the sports world by surprise... If successful on Friday, June 24 at the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, I could almost guarantee you he will fight in September for the heavyweight championship of the world." Rappaport claims he has been negotiating with longtime friend and Klitschko advisor Shelly Finkel. Rappaport stated, "Oleg Maskaev is not only a tremendous puncher, but a dazzling, magnificent boxer." The longtime promoter added, "I have never seen a man make the improvements that Oleg has made." Kesch said of Maskaev, "His desire to achieve what he wants and his willingness to learn new things to assist him is sensational. I truly believe that Oleg Maskaev will be heavyweight champion of the world." Maskaev, a native of Zhambul, Uzbekistan, now resides on Staten Island, NY., and trains out of Gleason's Gym in Brooklyn; he currently sports a record of (30-5, 24 KO's.) Asked about Dale Crowe, of Norwood, Ohio, (27-8-3, 38 KO's), Maskaev replied, "I know his style and I know who he's fought, he's very experienced." Unconcerned by the southpaw jinx, Maskaev says of his new trainer, "He's the best trainer I've ever seen, he's taught me a lot of things, I can't keep up with him." Even after most of the boxing world counted out Oleg, a 1999 win over former heavyweight champ Hasim Rahman plays fresh in Oleg's mind, as well as an amateur match with the soon-to-be champ Vitali Klitschko, who failed to come out for the second round. Oleg recalls, "He doesn't want to admit it, he says I didn't stop him, he says there was something wrong with his right hand, but that wasn't true... and will I finally have a chance in the future, so I would like to fight him again." On the rest of the heap of heavyweights currently out there, Maskaev says he's unimpressed, adding, "There is no leader right now, like Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson many years ago." The live card also features three light heavyweight bouts including Victor Paz against Jake Rodrigues; middleweight Tim O'Neil against Vance Garby and lightweights Robaz Gazashvili and Jose Espinal. Tickets for the live show are available at the Trump Taj Mahal Box Office or can be ordered from Ticketmaster. Ticket prices are $35, $50, $75 and $100 and the Oleg Maskaev-Dale Crowe bout will be televised live over ESPN 2, where Oleg expects to turn the lights out on Dale Crowe. So you guys are basing all this on an article that says that Maskaev's promoter CLAIMS to have been in contacts with the Klitschko camp? What does that mean? Been in contact. What, they called Vitali and asked for a fight? That doesnt mean anything. You no reason, based on that article to believe that the fight will take place, or that Vitali has any interest in it. You're gonna have to do better than that.

This one comes from fightnews: http://www.fightnews.com/greene39.htm Maskaev Seeks Redemption! Today Dale Crowe, Tomorrow The World June 20, 2005 By David Greene Heavyweight Oleg Maskaev and daughter Victoria in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. --Photo by David Greene Sometimes things cannot be controlled; such was the case when a press conference announcing the ESPN 2's Friday Night Fights card from Atlantic City, featuring heavyweight contender Oleg Maskaev and Ohio's Dale Crowe, was moved from one restaurant to another when the restaurant suffered a power failure. Now with a new camp that includes promoter extrordinaire Dennis Rappaport, manager Fred Kesch, trainer Victor Valle, Jr., and strength conditioner Harrison Skeets, Maskaev is on a road that could take him straight to the top, and a date with heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko. Rappaport explained, "We may have an announcement that will catch the sports world by surprise... If successful on Friday, June 24 at the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City, I could almost guarantee you he will fight in September for the heavyweight championship of the world." Rappaport claims he has been negotiating with longtime friend and Klitschko advisor Shelly Finkel. Rappaport stated, "Oleg Maskaev is not only a tremendous puncher, but a dazzling, magnificent boxer." The longtime promoter added, "I have never seen a man make the improvements that Oleg has made." Kesch said of Maskaev, "His desire to achieve what he wants and his willingness to learn new things to assist him is sensational. I truly believe that Oleg Maskaev will be heavyweight champion of the world." Maskaev, a native of Zhambul, Uzbekistan, now resides on Staten Island, NY., and trains out of Gleason's Gym in Brooklyn; he currently sports a record of (30-5, 24 KO's.) Asked about Dale Crowe, of Norwood, Ohio, (27-8-3, 38 KO's), Maskaev replied, "I know his style and I know who he's fought, he's very experienced." Unconcerned by the southpaw jinx, Maskaev says of his new trainer, "He's the best trainer I've ever seen, he's taught me a lot of things, I can't keep up with him." Even after most of the boxing world counted out Oleg, a 1999 win over former heavyweight champ Hasim Rahman plays fresh in Oleg's mind, as well as an amateur match with the soon-to-be champ Vitali Klitschko, who failed to come out for the second round. Oleg recalls, "He doesn't want to admit it, he says I didn't stop him, he says there was something wrong with his right hand, but that wasn't true... and will I finally have a chance in the future, so I would like to fight him again." On the rest of the heap of heavyweights currently out there, Maskaev says he's unimpressed, adding, "There is no leader right now, like Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson many years ago." The live card also features three light heavyweight bouts including Victor Paz against Jake Rodrigues; middleweight Tim O'Neil against Vance Garby and lightweights Robaz Gazashvili and Jose Espinal. Tickets for the live show are available at the Trump Taj Mahal Box Office or can be ordered from Ticketmaster. Ticket prices are $35, $50, $75 and $100 and the Oleg Maskaev-Dale Crowe bout will be televised live over ESPN 2, where Oleg expects to turn the lights out on Dale Crowe.

2 of the links that have been posted in other threads come from boxingtalk.