Tarver vs Jones III

I have a buddy who is a boxing fan (I have actually posted about him once before) who likes the most annoying of fighters and makes some awful picks. He made the claim to me that Roy Jones Jr would come out of retirement and KO both Johnson and Tarver with ease. And I will pose all of you the same question that I posed him, if we were talking about any other aging fighter who was knocked out cold in back to back fights, retired for a year or so, and then was talking about coming back and fighting a current champion-- would you say that it was a good idea? The argument that my friend made was that it was not just any fighter that we were talking about and that Roy never lost a round before getting KO'ed. But really he had not looked good for three fights and very well could have been on a three fight losing streak, why are we supposed to believe that a year of inactivity is going to make him any better?

there's nothing else out there fo rtarver so why not

Roy Jones is way past his prime, but he could do it if he adapted his style a bit (figured out what to do when he gets caught on the ropes, for example). Tarver is an old guy also, and not nearly as good as RJJ. I would actually like to see RJJ come back and fight the winner of Tarver / Johnson III, assuming that that fight happens, and then retire for good.

Joe Louis was knocked out by Max Schmelling after he had already beat Max Baer and Primo Carnerra. Ezzard Charrles was knocked out by Joe Walcott at 30 years old 4 fights into his title reign. 2 fights after winning the Heavyweight title from Charrles, Walcott was KO'd by Rocky Marciano. Floyd Patterson was KO'd by Igmar Johannasen and twice by Sonny Liston in his prime. After winning the title by knocking out Patterson in 2 consectutive fights, Liston was stopped twice back to back by Ali. Joe Frazier lost the Heavyweight title two fights after he won it by brutal 2nd round KO to George Foreman. George Foreman lost it a year later (in his prime) by knock out to Ali. Mike Tyson was in his prime when he was brutally KO'd by Buster Douglas. Eveander Holyfield lost his 3rd fight to Riddick Bowe by knockout. You learn something every day I guess.... ok good point but i bet none of those were one punch..I kno 4 sure Tyson was beat down but not by one punch, Same with Holy Field..i dont kno about those older fights

....I got the biggest idiot on boxingscene calling me an idiot. lol lol lol Good comedy. Roy has been knocked out cold in his last two fights and he still wants back in the ring during as you put it "the end of his career". So, your such a fan that you wanna see him get brain damage? WTF??? Once again, this coming from a big Wlad Klitschko nut hugger. Wlad was batterd by two guys nowhere near Tarver and Johnson's callibur, and this was in his so called 'prime'. In one case you have an all time great fighter you don't like, and in the other a glass chinned average Heavyweight who was KO'd by journeymen who you are a big fan of. I think this really says it all about who the idiot is: I am and always have been realistic about Wlad Wlad's loses were fatigue Fatigue? Right. It had nothing to do with him getting punched all over the ring in both reccent losses like a rag doll. Guys fight, get knocked out, and continue fighting. You're a hypocritical idiot who's a proven low class moron. Earlier you specificly said you wished Jones would get knocked out so badly he can never commentate again. Then you try and sugar coat it in your last post to cover up your classless statement. You need to learn to show some class. I realize that's how you talk around the trialer park, but there's no need to bring moronic statements like that in here. You don't like him and that's fine, but don't wish the guy McClellens' fate. That makes you look like an even bigger ass than usual.

Tarver KO2. Jones can't take a punch anymore.

Jones only said that he'd conider fighting Hopkins, because of the money. He didn't call him out in the least. He was responding to Hopkins comments. And your hateful comments about Roy's KO losses are pretty sad when you are a proven Wlad jock sniffer (I don't care what you think of the terms, the shoe fits). Wlad's KO losses came in his so called 'prime' and to FRINGE CONTENDERS. You slight Jones for his KO losses and make comments about how you wish his health would be effected so he can't commentate. Like I said, you critisize one of the greatest fighters of out generation for KO losses at the end of his career, and this is comming from a huge Wlad Klitschko fan. Nothing wrong with wanting to see someone lose, but wishing them life altering harm? You've always been an idiot, but that's a real lack of class. ....I got the biggest idiot on boxingscene calling me an idiot. lol lol lol Good comedy. Roy has been knocked out cold in his last two fights and he still wants back in the ring during as you put it "the end of his career". So, your such a fan that you wanna see him get brain damage? WTF??? He got the living shit kicked out of him in the Johnson fight before he got knocked out and offered no real resistence whatsoever. Only a dumb ass would continue fighting when it's obvious he has nothng left and has been knocked unconscious in his last two fights. On top of that, he is the mouthiest and cockiest mother fucker out there. He just needs to shut the fuck up and let the real fighters fight and stop talking about Roy Roy Roy. So yeah, if he steps back into the ring with that shitty attitude and the whole look at me I'm still the best bullshit then yeah I hope he gets a severe beating that embarrases him so bad that he never commentates again.

Bozo- don't even bother arguing with that moron. one day comments like that will catch up to him.

.....What the hell does Wlad have to do with Roy and his knockouts, his endless prancing and posing, and his shit talking on HBO? Did you hear Roy talk about fighting Bernard? He most certainly did and he acted like the idea more than appealed to him. I am and always have been realistic about Wlad and I don't believe I ever had his "balls" in my mouth. That has to be the gayest expression ever. Dudes that mention the ball thing too much have some kind of homo wanna be thing lurking in their subconscious. Besides, Wlad's loses were fatigue and one of the biggest punchers of the last 10 years in the heavyweight division. He wasn't left twitching on the canvas and looking like he may be on the verge of death. Roy has been knocked utterly senseless the last two times he has fought. Your comparison sucked just like you and your opinions. Jones only said that he'd conider fighting Hopkins, because of the money. He didn't call him out in the least. He was responding to Hopkins comments. And your hateful comments about Roy's KO losses are pretty sad when you are a proven Wlad jock sniffer (I don't care what you think of the terms, the shoe fits). Wlad's KO losses came in his so called 'prime' and to FRINGE CONTENDERS. You slight Jones for his KO losses and make comments about how you wish his health would be effected so he can't commentate. Like I said, you critisize one of the greatest fighters of out generation for KO losses at the end of his career, and this is comming from a huge Wlad Klitschko fan. Nothing wrong with wanting to see someone lose, but wishing them life altering harm? I just wanna see him get destroyed one last time to the point where he can't even commentate. You've always been an idiot, but that's a real lack of class.

Who cares he was still KTFO b4...Real great heavywieghts never got KTFO in theyer Prime...Mayve KOed but not KTFO like Rahman did to Lewis you are saying at 35 and after losing 20lbs of muscle roy jones jr was in his prime?!?! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roy is a legend and will go down as one of the greatest fighters ever regardless of weight and the best middleweight ever.

Hopkins is the one who stated the talk about this fight saying he wanted to fight Jones if he beats Taylor, not vice versa. If you're going to bitch about something, get your facts straight. It's really rich that you're so spiteful towards Jones for his KO losses (which came at the end of his career after age 35) yet you've had Wlad Klitschko's balls in your mouth on more than one occasion. He was knocked SILLY by guys nowhere near Johnson and Tarver's callibur, and this was in his -"prime"- ( and minus the Hall of Fame career before hand). Why aren't you calling for him to retire? .....What the hell does Wlad have to do with Roy and his knockouts, his endless prancing and posing, and his shit talking on HBO? Did you hear Roy talk about fighting Bernard? He most certainly did and he acted like the idea more than appealed to him. I am and always have been realistic about Wlad and I don't believe I ever had his "balls" in my mouth. That has to be the gayest expression ever. Dudes that mention the ball thing too much have some kind of homo wanna be thing lurking in their subconscious. Besides, Wlad's loses were fatigue and one of the biggest punchers of the last 10 years in the heavyweight division. He wasn't left twitching on the canvas and looking like he may be on the verge of death. Roy has been knocked utterly senseless the last two times he has fought. Your comparison sucked just like you and your opinions.

Who cares he was still KTFO b4...Real great heavywieghts never got KTFO in theyer Prime...Mayve KOed but not KTFO like Rahman did to Lewis Joe Louis was knocked out by Max Schmelling after he had already beat Max Baer and Primo Carnerra. Ezzard Charrles was knocked out by Joe Walcott at 30 years old 4 fights into his title reign. 2 fights after winning the Heavyweight title from Charrles, Walcott was KO'd by Rocky Marciano. Floyd Patterson was KO'd by Igmar Johannasen and twice by Sonny Liston in his prime. After winning the title by knocking out Patterson in 2 consectutive fights, Liston was stopped twice back to back by Ali. Joe Frazier lost the Heavyweight title two fights after he won it by brutal 2nd round KO to George Foreman. George Foreman lost it a year later (in his prime) by knock out to Ali. Mike Tyson was in his prime when he was brutally KO'd by Buster Douglas. Eveander Holyfield lost his 3rd fight to Riddick Bowe by knockout. You learn something every day I guess....

Yeah, especially like he went toe to toe with Mercer, absorbed punishment from Holyfield, Took flush shots from Tua, Stood toe to toe with Grant and demolished him, Stood toe to toe with Vitali Klitschko..... dont gimme that Lewis having a glass jaw bs.....because its retarded. oh lets not forget the war with Shannon Briggs. Who cares he was still KTFO b4...Real great heavywieghts never got KTFO in theyer Prime...Mayve KOed but not KTFO like Rahman did to Lewis

Tarver by KO 1 or 2...

.....Not only that, but Jones is desperately seeking a marquee fight that he can actually win. He doesn't have time for "chumps" like Tarver or Johnson. lol lol lol They just don't have enough skill, talent, or pedigree to peak his interest. Neve mind that they both knocked him the fuck out. He now wants to call out the smaller man to try and end things with his head off the canvas and on a high note. It would be funny if Bernard took that fight and also knocked him out and left him cross eyed on the canvas. That would probably mean that we would no longer be graced with Jones "words" of wisdom on HBO. It amazes me that he still talks the shit that he does after nearly getting killed twice. Talk about a guy too stupid to learn his lesson. I have been saying all along that he should retire and STFU but now I just wanna see him get destroyed one last time to the point where he can't even commentate. The sooner his face fades into the sunset the better. He seems like such a bitter queen now. I worked with many homo's in the restaurant business who are far less spiteful and bitchy than Roy. Hopkins is the one who stated the talk about this fight saying he wanted to fight Jones if he beats Taylor, not vice versa. If you're going to bitch about something, get your facts straight. It's really rich that you're so spiteful towards Jones for his KO losses (which came at the end of his career after age 35) yet you've had Wlad Klitschko's balls in your mouth on more than one occasion. He was knocked SILLY by guys nowhere near Johnson and Tarver's callibur, and this was in his -"prime"- ( and minus the Hall of Fame career before hand). Why aren't you calling for him to retire?

I completely disagree. I don't see any point in Jones fighting a middleweight after he's come down from Heavyweight. If he wins, its because of the size and age difference. If he loses, it looks bad that his 3rd consecutive loss comes at the hands of a middleweight. Hopkins (if he beats Taylor) will be fighting a guy comming off back to back KO losses. I don't care for that fight at all. If Hopkins wants to fight a Lt Heavy he should look to Tarver. .....Not only that, but Jones is desperately seeking a marquee fight that he can actually win. He doesn't have time for "chumps" like Tarver or Johnson. lol lol lol They just don't have enough skill, talent, or pedigree to peak his interest. Neve mind that they both knocked him the fuck out. He now wants to call out the smaller man to try and end things with his head off the canvas and on a high note. It would be funny if Bernard took that fight and also knocked him out and left him cross eyed on the canvas. That would probably mean that we would no longer be graced with Jones "words" of wisdom on HBO. It amazes me that he still talks the shit that he does after nearly getting killed twice. Talk about a guy too stupid to learn his lesson. I have been saying all along that he should retire and STFU but now I just wanna see him get destroyed one last time to the point where he can't even commentate. The sooner his face fades into the sunset the better. He seems like such a bitter queen now. I worked with many homo's in the restaurant business who are far less spiteful and bitchy than Roy.

Why in hell would Jones comeback again? Wasn't Johnson supposed to be a walk in the park for him? He got beat EVERY round... A rubber match with Roy Jones is pointless...

just like the guy in ur avtar??? Wasnt he KOed 2 times by singe shots and once in the 2nd Round....I guess thats not glass though Yeah, especially like he went toe to toe with Mercer, absorbed punishment from Holyfield, Took flush shots from Tua, Stood toe to toe with Grant and demolished him, Stood toe to toe with Vitali Klitschko..... dont gimme that Lewis having a glass jaw bs.....because its retarded. oh lets not forget the war with Shannon Briggs. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

The style Roy Jones fought Ruiz with would be perfect for Tarver. In that fight occording to compubox he threw the most jabs hes ever thrown. He kept Ruiz away and used speed and then banged in counters. That would work nicely againest Tarver, he could beat Tarver but it would sure be a task

The reality is that Jones Jr fought with a class jaw and utilize his speed and movement through the years. just like the guy in ur avtar??? Wasnt he KOed 2 times by singe shots and once in the 2nd Round....I guess thats not glass though