IBHOF: Who Should Be There.....

name a quality heavyweight that james braddock beat aside from max baer. I'm not going to argue Braddock's hall of fame worth because I think he's a very borderline member of that exclusive group, but he did have a couple of very impressive wins just before defeating Baer...At the time of his fight and subsequent loss to Braddock, Art Lasky was ranked as one of the top three heavyweights in the world, so you could certainly count him as one of the "quality heavyweights" of the day. And when he lost to Braddock, John Henry Lewis was ranked as the number one light heavyweight contender in the world by The Ring (not much on Braddock's heavyweight resume beyond Baer and Lasky, but you could find some high quality wins on his light heavyweight ledger...Lewis, Griffith, Slattery, etc., were all ranked VERY high in the 175 lbs class when Braddock beat them). But anyways, I'm more interested in hearing the case against Mike Gibbons being included in the IBHOF, which was the thread starter's opinion that he shouldn't be.

Not all legends have 5 years championship behind them, not all have 10 title defences... What can I tell you... Go see Cinderella Man LOL i saw it the day it came out. i give it a 9/10. pretty good. still, winning the title and causing an upset isnt HOF worthy. if it is, does that mean Buster Douglas, Leon Spinks, and Hasim Rahman should be in the HOF too?

Not all legends have 5 years championship behind them, not all have 10 title defences... What can I tell you... Go see Cinderella Man LOL

There is a difference between being a peoples champ and having a large fan base. I'm sorry, last thing I remember, Golota quit how many times... sorry I lost count. BTW, my memory is kinda hazy, when was Golota a champ? My point is Golota is not a legend, Braddock is. golota quit twice: against michael grant and against tyson. golota was never a champ. golota is not a legend either. that aside, can u answer my question about braddock's credentials?

andrew golota was chicago's people's champ. should he be inducted into the hall of fame for that?There is a difference between being a peoples champ and having a large fan base. I'm sorry, last thing I remember, Golota quit how many times... sorry I lost count. BTW, my memory is kinda hazy, when was Golota a champ? My point is Golota is not a legend, Braddock is.

Yes, you're right! But he's a people's champ... He won the hearts like no other and that's a HOF accomplishment:-) andrew golota was chicago's people's champ. should he be inducted into the hall of fame for that?

name a quality heavyweight that james braddock beat aside from max baer. name something james braddock did that was noteworthy aside from win the title from a joker of a champion. how long did braddock have the title? how many successful defenses did he make?Yes, you're right! But he's a people's champ... He won the hearts like no other and that's a HOF accomplishment:-)

I don't want to waste my time arguing. if u dont want to waste time arguing, dont resort to name calling when u disagree.

name a quality heavyweight that james braddock beat aside from max baer. name something james braddock did that was noteworthy aside from win the title from a joker of a champion. how long did braddock have the title? how many successful defenses did he make? I don't want to waste my time arguing.

Duran, Hearns, Chavez, Whitaker, Holmes btw for the guy who said Braddock shouldnt be there.. you're retarded.. name a quality heavyweight that james braddock beat aside from max baer. name something james braddock did that was noteworthy aside from win the title from a joker of a champion. how long did braddock have the title? how many successful defenses did he make?

Duran, Hearns, Chavez, Whitaker, Holmes btw for the guy who said Braddock shouldnt be there.. you're retarded..

Spinksjinx, I feel that all of the bad things Tyson did in and out of the ring negate any of the good things he did. Especially now that there are questions as to just how good he was in his prime. Sure he blew through from '86 to '89. But there are questions as to was he that good or just hype. I know people have different ideas as to what the HOF should be. I always felt that character should be a consideration. Just my opinion. Classy post by the way. You stated your case and didn't resort to namecalling etc, which doesn't happen too frequently here. Thumbs up.

How can you say Patterson shouldnt be in the hall of fame? Foreman-Tyson should be in, he is the youngest heavyweight champion of all time as well as involved in the highest grossing and largest buy rate of any ppv event in history.

I know tyson will get in, but he shouldn't. Patterson was the first to win back the title and was a classy guy so he should get the nod.

who should NOT be there: jimmy braddock ingemar johansson pipino cuevas terry norris sammy angott\ I agree with Johanson. Disagree with the others.

should be there: roberto duran thomas hearns larry holmes pernell whitaker (even though i dont like him) lennox lewis (even though i dont like him) julio cesar chavez (once he FINALLY retires) who should NOT be there: jimmy braddock ingemar johansson pipino cuevas terry norris sammy angott

Should: Holman Williams Petey Sarron Chiquita Gonzalez Michael Carbajal Should Not: Jess Willard MIke Gibbons Fred Apostoli Floyd Patterson Lazslo Papp