Prime Vlad vs. Prime Marciano Who wins?

i guess it plays a part if its a 12 ore a 15 roung fight. still i think wlad will be exheausted by marciano`s pace much earlier and that. the rock by ko in the 10th, after taking a real heavy beating from wlad.

15 round fight?

Dayum, yall know yer stuff. I think you said it best with Vklit...and even Vlad...skilled. Big men with movement and good solid boxing skills. Superb jabs, and hooks off it. Solid rights, that while one wont knock you cold, 5 will. Again, with Rock, it only took one...but could he with stand the jab and beating the big boys could dish ...and land Susie Q? Its hard to fantasy fight heavyweights, cause there is no top limit..unlike the others.

Neither Klitschko has the stamina to last the distance with Marciano and decision him and only Wlad has the kind of KO power to potentially take him out. I like Marciano's chances even against Wlad, who does not like to be pressured by big punchers. As for the whole "Marciano was a cruiserweight and didn't have heavyweight power" argument... Dick Sadler who worked with and trained Foreman once said that he was certain that Marciano not only had a harder and more explosive right hand than Foreman but would have likely beaten him in a fight. This is a guy who watched (not read about) both guys hit the heavybag, spar, and fight. Jersey Joe Walcott always maintained that Marciano hit harder than Joe Louis, a guy who anyone with half a brain realizes had heavyweight power in his destruction of several 240+ pounders during his career. I have also read quotes of sparring partners, guy who were in there with both Louis and Marciano, who said that Marciano punch for punch hit significantly harder. So you can continue to believe that Marciano was some cruiserweight who hit about as hard as Vassily Jirov, but every trainer, boxing insider, and fighter who saw him live and lived into the 1970's, 80's, 90's, (Eddie Futch, Lou Duva, Angelo Dundee and a boatload of others) would tell you that Marciano had a legitimate heavyweight punch. Kid - I'd agree that Rocky hit very hard for his size, but even if he hit, say as hard as Joe Frazier for argument's sake, he's still giving up 8" in height, 65 lbs in weight and 15" in reach to a guy who is very skilled. That's a lot.

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Neither Klitschko has the stamina to last the distance with Marciano and decision him and only Wlad has the kind of KO power to potentially take him out. I like Marciano's chances even against Wlad, who does not like to be pressured by big punchers. As for the whole "Marciano was a cruiserweight and didn't have heavyweight power" argument... Dick Sadler who worked with and trained Foreman once said that he was certain that Marciano not only had a harder and more explosive right hand than Foreman but would have likely beaten him in a fight. This is a guy who watched (not read about) both guys hit the heavybag, spar, and fight. Jersey Joe Walcott always maintained that Marciano hit harder than Joe Louis, a guy who anyone with half a brain realizes had heavyweight power in his destruction of several 240+ pounders during his career. I have also read quotes of sparring partners, guy who were in there with both Louis and Marciano, who said that Marciano punch for punch hit significantly harder. So you can continue to believe that Marciano was some cruiserweight who hit about as hard as Vassily Jirov, but every trainer, boxing insider, and fighter who saw him live and lived into the 1970's, 80's, 90's, (Eddie Futch, Lou Duva, Angelo Dundee and a boatload of others) would tell you that Marciano had a legitimate heavyweight punch. Very interesting stuff, I have always been a Marciano fan, but never thought he really hit THAT hard lol

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rocky by ko in 9

Neither Klitschko has the stamina to last the distance with Marciano and decision him and only Wlad has the kind of KO power to potentially take him out. I like Marciano's chances even against Wlad, who does not like to be pressured by big punchers. As for the whole "Marciano was a cruiserweight and didn't have heavyweight power" argument... Dick Sadler who worked with and trained Foreman once said that he was certain that Marciano not only had a harder and more explosive right hand than Foreman but would have likely beaten him in a fight. This is a guy who watched (not read about) both guys hit the heavybag, spar, and fight. Jersey Joe Walcott always maintained that Marciano hit harder than Joe Louis, a guy who anyone with half a brain realizes had heavyweight power in his destruction of several 240+ pounders during his career. I have also read quotes of sparring partners, guy who were in there with both Louis and Marciano, who said that Marciano punch for punch hit significantly harder. So you can continue to believe that Marciano was some cruiserweight who hit about as hard as Vassily Jirov, but every trainer, boxing insider, and fighter who saw him live and lived into the 1970's, 80's, 90's, (Eddie Futch, Lou Duva, Angelo Dundee and a boatload of others) would tell you that Marciano had a legitimate heavyweight punch.

why do i allways get the feeling that that barrel of your rifle smells like ass..? ;) not sure, maybe you have some personal issues you need to address. ;)

marciano has better skill, but completely diffreent eras in size and wiehgt

**sniff sniff** I smell Klitschko-Sanders I That means Marciano knocks him the fuck out rocky didn't have the size or power of sanders. remember rocky was fighting guys from 174-198. So his power seemed great. He didn't get in there with the big hitters liked sonny/foreman/ or even frazier

Rocky was great for his size, but Wlad and VK would hurt him bad. Rocky had no defense, he wouldn't be able to land a punch, because he would just walk straight into those jabs, Rocky looses bad to either guy.

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Did you mean vladimer or vatali. Either way they both lose to marciano. Vlad would get knocked out and vitali would lose a decision. Vlad has to weak of a chin to fight Rocky but vitali on the other hand has a great chin with tremendous heart but not enough skill to fight rocky marciano. Oh , and by the way, to all you klitschko haters who talk shit about vitali especially name one heavyweight in the last ten years that could beat him. Name one fighter of the last 10 years that could beat Vitali? HAHAHAHA! You ARE smoking a lot of dope, my friend. Here we go: Lewis, Ike Ibeabuchi, Tua, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer (10 years ago), Toney, Golota. Decent number of people I thought of I do believe.

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I believe anyone with heart & can take a punch would beat Vlad. Marciano would be a tough one to crack because he was relentless. He'd keep coming after him sort of like Brewster did except Marciano had good stamina & kept punching.

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Marciano would knock out Vladimir. There is a big size difference, but Marciano would be able to hurt, tire and finish this guy.