One thing that every1 seems to have conveniently missed about the Hatton fight was that Kostya Tszyu threw the first illegal shot. I dont care where it landed, it was an illegal shot and it put Hatton down.
Now i heard some1 saying that Tszyu threw 3 according to the stats and how many times was he punished? None of the times.
So all u haters going on about equality in the sport, do u think it would be equality to punish Hatton for throwing less illegal blows, especially when Tszyu done it first and didnt get punished for any of the ones he did.
As i have said before do u think that his corner really quit him because he was suffering "so badly" from the illegal blows or was it cos his face was starting to look like a balloon? Id say the latter.
Thanks for taking the time to receive a reality check and realise some facts that (by the sounds of it) none of u were aware of.
NIce try, but KT isnt even American..it's got nothing to do with that I swear. but yes, I'd definately be interested in that fight ..thank you ;)
View the eyes of the American media mate.
I'll upload that fight tonight. :cool:
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Where can i get a pair of your glasses?? :D
Seriously mate, do you want me to upload Tszyu vs Mitchell 1 for you??
BTW, there was no way Dave Parris was bias, you might have a case for some of the the other thing you mention(even though i dont think so) but the ref was perfect, he let the fight flow and i couldnt see a singe mistake. Dave Parris normally annoys me but i cant fault him this fight. I've seen the fight with commentary from the UK, US and OZ, i didnt hear any complaints from anyone.
NIce try, but KT isnt even American..it's got nothing to do with that I swear. but yes, I'd definately be interested in that fight ..thank you ;)
Tszyu was faking it. He don't have balls.
Nah but seriously I think Tszyu was just buying himself some time. Most low blows in boxing don't really hurt.
Don't believe me? Watch this video evidence:
http://www.ringtalk.com/videofiles/lowblow.htm
Its Pedro Fernandez, some may have already seen this. He demonstrates that low blows don't really hurt.
I wonder if Riddick Bowe was really hurt against Golota LOL
or
if Vargas was hurt against Trinidad..
guess not! :D
Like I said, I didnt see it..did he come in with his head all night? Did he use elbows and forearms and lean on him with his chest to the point that he backed him up into the ropes over and over? Did he turn him around in a circle and hit him on the back of his head while doing it? Did he hold his arms down and hit him all night? Did he take advantage of a biased ref all night???Just asking, since I didnt see it.
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Where can i get a pair of your glasses?? :D
Seriously mate, do you want me to upload Tszyu vs Mitchell 1 for you??
BTW, there was no way Dave Parris was bias, you might have a case for some of the the other thing you mention(even though i dont think so) but the ref was perfect, he let the fight flow and i couldnt see a singe mistake. Dave Parris normally annoys me but i cant fault him this fight. I've seen the fight with commentary from the UK, US and OZ, i didnt hear any complaints from anyone.
What the fuck is up with this if he has the guts? U think it takes guts to fucking jump on a plane with all of his fans. NO!
Anyways he has already announced he is going to fight in America and if he doesnt he will be disappointed because that has always been his dream. Plus as soon as the KT fight finished Warren said he would, as some1 stated in a thread on this forum.
And Godzhand im not letting anything cloud my mind. I think its the Americans that are having the judgement clouded. Im stating facts other than the debatable fact whether it was intentional or not. Kostya started the dirty shit so Ricky responded and all u lot make it out like he "low blows" every single fight. He was simply too good for KT.
What it boils down to though was that points werent deducted from KT so y should they be from Ricky. Now thats what i call clouded judgement.
KT didnt start the "dirty shit". Hatton did, it may have been the first or 2nd round, somewhere in the beginning when Hatton spun KT around and punched him the back of the head. That's one of the most unsportsmanlike things I've ever seen in a boxing match. Obviously, we've all seen fighters get spun around, fighters hitting low or behind the head, but to do it so blatant makes it even worse, this is a fact, not my opinion. If you don't agree, I am done talking to you about this subject, because to not acknowledge such a blatant and dangerous foul would be biased in favor of Hatton.
I watched Tszyu destiny and he even said he was roughing Mitchell up.
Like I said, I didnt see it..did he come in with his head all night? Did he use elbows and forearms and lean on him with his chest to the point that he backed him up into the ropes over and over? Did he turn him around in a circle and hit him on the back of his head while doing it? Did he hold his arms down and hit him all night? Did he take advantage of a biased ref all night???Just asking, since I didnt see it.
I'd have to disagree about zoo fighting dirty he does do it, he threw mitchell around like a rag dol in their first fight
I watched Tszyu destiny and he even said he was roughing Mitchell up.
No, were not gonna argue, and I chose my words carefully out of respect for the few British fans that I can debate with and not get called alot of childish names, etc. (and that includes you ;) ). Ricky had been fighting extremely dirty long before KT threw that punch on what I thought was the beltline, and not a low blow. KT has never been a dirty fighter, but was forced to resort to doing just that, which is why I think he quit. Hatton got away with murder all night long, and even if KT accidentally hit him low, even the commentators (who were in love with Hatton) said that Rick did that intentionally. One was a mistake and the other not. And, like I said Ricky wears his belt line very high anwyay, and that punch was right on it.
i'd rather you be honest mate, i wouldnt get offended because its only shit spoken on a forum and i know your cool, i wouldnt take something you said the wrong way. :)
Tszyu's well known for being a rough fighter, Hatton had been hit low about 3 times so he got a bit of payback. i've debated the Hatton vs Tszyu fight a few times with you and i'm sure your aware that Tszyu is one of my favourite fighters, so if Hatton was too extreme with his rough housing i'd be the first to say. I think both fighters got involved in the illegal shots but i'd expect that because it was fought on the inside all night and both fighters are very strong and like to rough opponents up.
Both fighters fought like warriors and both have great respect for each other, i doubt that would be the case if they considered each other dirty fighters. Tsyzu even give Hatton his phone number if he ever needs help in the future.
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i was starting to agree with you more and more but to lose respect for a fighter getting some pay back is wrong. Tszyu was throwing illegal blow, Hatton threw some back and neither fighter complained, its boxing mate, if someone gets a bit rough then you have to be a bit rough back.
Anyways Hatton was very hyped up, he's been wanting this fight for years and the way the American media disrespected him i'm not suprised he went a bit wild, he was an angry man.
Both fighters punched low, both fighter tried to muscle each other and both were hitting behind the head. Its all good.
And were not going to argue about location again are we mate, i fucking hope not ;)
No, were not gonna argue, and I chose my words carefully out of respect for the few British fans that I can debate with and not get called alot of childish names, etc. (and that includes you ;) ). Ricky had been fighting extremely dirty long before KT threw that punch on what I thought was the beltline, and not a low blow. KT has never been a dirty fighter, but was forced to resort to doing just that, which is why I think he quit. Hatton got away with murder all night long, and even if KT accidentally hit him low, even the commentators (who were in love with Hatton) said that Rick did that intentionally. One was a mistake and the other not. And, like I said Ricky wears his belt line very high anwyay, and that punch was right on it.
exactly, even the commentators, who were outrageously PRO hatton all night long, said "there's no way that was not intentional"..talking about the "payback" that Hatton delivered to KT! Say what you will, I know youre British fans and he's your guy, but how you guys can celebrate him, and the dirty tatics he used is beyond me. He not only fought dirty, but forced KT to respond in kind..something he never does! I have NO respect for him now. If he ever gets the guts to come to the states and fight, he's gonna be in touble if he's relying on those dirty moves to save him. He wont get away with that here. When he spun KT around in a full circle and hit him deliberately behind the head he should have been DQ'ed..period. That was one very classless move.
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i was starting to agree with you more and more but to lose respect for a fighter getting some pay back is wrong. Tszyu was throwing illegal blow, Hatton threw some back and neither fighter complained, its boxing mate, if someone gets a bit rough then you have to be a bit rough back.
Anyways Hatton was very hyped up, he's been wanting this fight for years and the way the American media disrespected him i'm not suprised he went a bit wild, he was an angry man.
Both fighters punched low, both fighter tried to muscle each other and both were hitting behind the head. Its all good.
And were not going to argue about location again are we mate, i fucking hope not ;)
What the fuck is up with this if he has the guts? U think it takes guts to fucking jump on a plane with all of his fans. NO!
Anyways he has already announced he is going to fight in America and if he doesnt he will be disappointed because that has always been his dream. Plus as soon as the KT fight finished Warren said he would, as some1 stated in a thread on this forum.
And Godzhand im not letting anything cloud my mind. I think its the Americans that are having the judgement clouded. Im stating facts other than the debatable fact whether it was intentional or not. Kostya started the dirty shit so Ricky responded and all u lot make it out like he "low blows" every single fight. He was simply too good for KT.
What it boils down to though was that points werent deducted from KT so y should they be from Ricky. Now thats what i call clouded judgement.
they both didnt have intent?!?!? KT got warned and the VERY NEXT SECOND Hatton swung right at the balls, c'mon man, I know Hatton's your countryman and everything, but dont let that cloud your judgement and rationality.
exactly, even the commentators, who were outrageously PRO hatton all night long, said "there's no way that was not intentional"..talking about the "payback" that Hatton delivered to KT! Say what you will, I know youre British fans and he's your guy, but how you guys can celebrate him, and the dirty tatics he used is beyond me. He not only fought dirty, but forced KT to respond in kind..something he never does! I have NO respect for him now. If he ever gets the guts to come to the states and fight, he's gonna be in touble if he's relying on those dirty moves to save him. He wont get away with that here. When he spun KT around in a full circle and hit him deliberately behind the head he should have been DQ'ed..period. That was one very classless move.
they both didnt have intent?!?!? KT got warned and the VERY NEXT SECOND Hatton swung right at the balls, c'mon man, I know Hatton's your countryman and everything, but dont let that cloud your judgement and rationality.
Well said. That was one of the worst refereeing jobs I've seen in a while.
Bottom line is a low blow is a low blow. They dont deduct points based on the purposefulness of it. They both didnt have intent i suspect and if they did i think Tszyu would have said something after the fight.
they both didnt have intent?!?!? KT got warned and the VERY NEXT SECOND Hatton swung right at the balls, c'mon man, I know Hatton's your countryman and everything, but dont let that cloud your judgement and rationality.
One thing that every1 seems to have conveniently missed about the Hatton fight was that Kostya Tszyu threw the first illegal shot. I dont care where it landed, it was an illegal shot and it put Hatton down.
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spot on
Tszyu..whens the last time you ever heard him make an excuse or complain? never...but..nevertheless..Tszyu lost..Hatton...and yes that low blow he did..was..just..unnecessary..and that spin and hit he did on Tszyu..too..
To me it seemed that Hatton kind of leaped in when Tszyu threw the punch that caused it to be low even though it hit high on the beltline. To me that punch could of gone either way. It could of been ruled a knockdown or a low blow. The one Hatton threw was no doubt a low blow and there is a difference between the two. Tszyu didn't intentionally throw the low blow while Hatton's was no doubt intentional. I don't think it made a difference though because Hatton was starting to really come on at that time.