First and foremost congrats to Hatton for beating Koysta. I really thought that Koysta was going to be able to keep hatton at bay with his jab and right hand (and ring smarts) but that kid from manchester was as hungery as a great white shark. again kudos to hatton for smothering tyszu and nulifying his big right hand. i would also like to say that i'm now becoming a a fan of ricky hatton (i used to watch this kid in hbo and grimmace everytime he threw a body shot in multiple combinations from different angles...no one does that anymore. major respect for him to ressurect a dying art).
now all said and done. who thought that koysta deserved a knockdown? granted hatton was not hit by the typical body shot (the kind where you're roling around the floor grimmacing and suckin' wind...lol...sorry, painful memories of my ring escapades lol) but it was right at the belt line. it seemed to me that the area was fair game....and any hit in fair terretory where it causes you to place a hand on the mat is considered a knockdown. hatton didn't seem to be affected that much. but he did fall.
maybe the knock down would have surged some energy into koysta to lessen that gap...or maybe it would have unleased a more despreate beast in an already hunry manchester fighter...
what do you guys think?
Watch the fight carefully, learn the rules.
On the belt is fine. Below the belt is not.
It hit on the belt, and put Hatton down (but did not overly hurt him). It is a knockdown.
I actually think if it was counted as it shoudl have been, Tszyu would have been strengthened a lot by it. He said afterwards that he didnt come out in the 12th because he was behind on the cards. With this knockdown, he might have given himself a chance.
This is taking nothing away from the win - Hatton definetaly derserved it, the aging Tszyu did not.
the REF ignored that punch, it was not a slip. IMO it was a knockdown. if not that it should have been counted as a low blow, it was a difficult call but it was one or the other
You couldnt kick my ass, you probably cant even read a map so the chances of you even getting here for a fight are slim. You bring Robin Hood and your mate Chris Eubank and if all 3 of you can hit me at the same time i'd give you a punchers chance!!
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Fuck me you've got no chance, robin shoots you in the arms, (now you can't punch), chris recites some weird shit to send half asleep (your now prime for a ko blow) then i'd just come along and tap you over :smashfrea
easy as pie, shit i said pie bet your salavating now big boy
That's it tubby I'm coming to kick your ass :boxing:
And i know it'l be easy to find you being rik wallers twin :p
You couldnt kick my ass, you probably cant even read a map so the chances of you even getting here for a fight are slim. You bring Robin Hood and your mate Chris Eubank and if all 3 of you can hit me at the same time i'd give you a punchers chance!!
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To answer the original question its not a matter of opinion. Hatton did get knocked down and thats a fact, and no it wasnt a knockdown because the referee said it wasnt and his choice is final (and thats a fact too).
But Kostya Tszyu was knocked down aswell and thats a fact. And i wouldnt discredit Hatton for winning the fight on the dirty gameplan that Tszyu brought into the fight which Ricky then adapted to.
I didnt think of that, maybe your not so dumb after all. :fing26:
That's it tubby I'm coming to kick your ass :boxing:
And i know it'l be easy to find you being rik wallers twin :p
I think it could have legitimately been ruled a knockdown but it was also just low enough that it could also have been ruled a low blow, which it was. I cringed when Hatton winged that puch at Tszyu nuts though...OUCH..Tszyu should have taken more time
Looked low to me, and zoo offered his glove after, not many fighters would do that if they thought they just been robbed of a knockdown
I didnt think of that, maybe your not so dumb after all. :fing26:
If you look at my 2nd clip there, you will notice by looking at Hatton's back how high his trunks are.
They are definatly above his navel.
Tszyu's shot is on the belt line, and the trunks are very high.
I think it depends on what the ref said in the introductions about where on Hatton punches would be considered low.
But as you can see in the fight, the referee didn't really know what to do or think when it happened, which is no suprize, becuase he did a terrible job overall.
I think it wasn't low when considering how high he was wearing his trunks.
The ref was fine, i normally hate Dave Parris but IMO he did a good job. His shorts could have been up to his nipples but the punch landed low, it landed in the bladder area which is a Bozo no no.
I think it wasn't low when considering how high he was wearing his trunks.
good point. usually when the trunks are too high the ref will call what area of the waist band is acceptable. but i think i issed that part of the fight cause' he usually calls it at the beginning.
i agree that the ref was terrible...but bad ref or good ref it was hatton's night.
If you look at my 2nd clip there, you will notice by looking at Hatton's back how high his trunks are.
They are definatly above his navel.
Tszyu's shot is on the belt line, and the trunks are very high.
I think it depends on what the ref said in the introductions about where on Hatton punches would be considered low.
But as you can see in the fight, the referee didn't really know what to do or think when it happened, which is no suprize, becuase he did a terrible job overall.
I think it wasn't low when considering how high he was wearing his trunks.
Low blow, without doubt.
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/20305Tszyu_Low_Blow_on_Hatton.gif
Very, Very low blow, that must have hurt!!
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/20305Hatton_Low_Blow_on_Tszyu.gif
everything else a side, the topic of this thread asks " In your opinion was hatton knocked down?"
IMO he was, it was on the beltline... he didnt seem realy hurt and yes it was a dirty fight, blah, blah, blah, but in the end if you want a simple answer to whether it is or isnt, i say it is...
I am of Euro descent and I say that Tszyu legitimately knocked him down with that punch. It was right on the belt line but that dick with ears they had in there reffing the fight couldn't tell his ass from his elbows.
Where in europe?? Russia :D
I am of Euro descent and I say that Tszyu legitimately knocked him down with that punch. It was right on the belt line but that dick with ears they had in there reffing the fight couldn't tell his ass from his elbows.