Guys, would you like to see this kind of match? A match between Vitali Klitschko and one of the top MMA heavyweights in the world?
Those who watch both boxing and MMA(like I do) should know that the best heavyweights that Pride has to offer are Fedor Emelianenko and Mirko Filipovic. UFC offers Frank Mir and Andrei Arlovski(who fights tonight at UFC 53). This match could even be MMA since Vitali is an accomplished kickboxer, but then again I doubt that Klitschko has any ground skills, making the fight a mismatch if it goes to the ground. I expect to get some replies from serious fans who know about MMA too. Not haters who only watch boxing and diss MMA without having any knowledge. This kind of event would be good to determine who is the best fighter on the planet. There are always arguments, but events like this could put an end to certain doubts.
I can't see any of these MMA fighters, lasting 1 round with VK. I think he would be able to overwelm them like Chuck Liddell does with his power and accurcy.
But Vitor belfort could compete with a boxer if it is strictly boxing.
vitor has good hand speed but i really question his stamina he seems to get wore out quick and if he were to fight strictly boxing stamina is very important ..
There have been some replies from posters who know from both boxing and MMA(like myself). There have also been some replies from posters who simply show that they don't know anything about MMA and just want to diss it. It would be good if, at least, posters knew who these MMA guys(Arlovski, Filipovic, Emelianenko) are and what they bring to the table. This way, their arguments would present some facts and knowledge, instead of just assumptions that could be wrong.
When trying to compare something like this, it is only fair consider the best at the sport.
All of the people that think that a professional MMA fighter would allow VK to stand upright and jab all night to a victory are retarded. A professional MMA fighter, even at 205 pounds, could get caught coming inside, but it would be worth it to get VK on the ground and submit him in a minute or so.
If you go to the running websites, you get this same crap from traithletes that think they could beat the runners if they trained to run all day. The triathletes are simply confused.
simeraksou is spot on with his assessment of the differing levels of power in the two sports. A guy like Byrd or Larry Donald would be considered a dangerous puncher by UFC or Pride standards.
In case you are writing all that stuff for me, try again because I am a hardcore boxing fan. It's not my problem if others are narrow minded and can not appreciate talented MMA practitioners.
In a standup fight, MMA fighters stand very little chance against boxers. Boxers do have a chance in an MMA fight. They always have a chance due to superior striking ability (with their hands). There are many MMA fights where a knockout occurs before anyone is even taken to the ground. Even a "light hitting" boxer (by boxing standards) like Chris Byrd, would actually hurt an MMA fighter very badly in a boxing match. MMA fighters are not used to the punching talent that is inherent in boxing. Think about it, if MMA fighters were really that good at punching, why would they not become boxers and make millions more $$$ than as MMA fighters? Many MMA fighters are boxing, wrestling, or football rejects (I said many are, not all).
MMA fans, you must understand that if you come on and insult boxing by saying something else is better than it, naturally you will piss people off. This is like me going to a Spice Girls chatroom and telling them that the Spice Girls really are not such talented singers, that the BeeGees could outsing them anyday. These Spice Girls fans would be very angry at me and would disagree I am sure.
You couldn't have expected the boxing fans to agree with you that their favorite fighters would get beat up by MMA fighters. I salivate at the thought of what Tyson would do to the very best MMA fighters in a Marquis of Queensbury true boxing match.
In case you are writing all that stuff for me, try again because I am a hardcore boxing fan. It's not my problem if others are narrow minded and can not appreciate talented MMA practitioners.
No way would that guy make Mercer struggle in a boxing match. Mercer would KO any of those guys in a few rounds with boxing rules. They would all be fish out of water, even if they had Muhammad Ali's athleticism. Without the skills (or an iron chin as a plan B) you will sink in boxing. It doesn't matter how athletic you are if you don't have the training and the skills. Otherwise the HW champion would always be a track and field gold medalist or gymnast.
MMA fans, you must understand that if you come on and insult boxing by saying something else is better than it, naturally you will piss people off. This is like me going to a Spice Girls chatroom and telling them that the Spice Girls really are not such talented singers, that the BeeGees could outsing them anyday. These Spice Girls fans would be very angry at me and would disagree I am sure.
You couldn't have expected the boxing fans to agree with you that their favorite fighters would get beat up by MMA fighters. I salivate at the thought of what Tyson would do to the very best MMA fighters in a Marquis of Queensbury true boxing match.
Well we'll get a closest thing to it soon when Matt Skelton fights Danny Williams. Williams should win because it is boxing rules.
I think this topic is a little silly. It does not matter what weight as long as the fighters are the same weight, the result would usually be the same. If it is mma guy vs. boxer in an mma rules match, the mma guy USUALLY wins. If the it is a boxing match, the boxer USUALLY wins. There would be very few exceptions to this.
Was there any doubt in anybody's mind that Remy Bonjasky (sp?) would MURDER Ray Mercer? Sure, he was giving up probably 60 pounds, but Mercer was ~41 and Bonjasky looked to be around 27-28 and VERY athletic. And he's one of those kickboxers that can actually kick. I expected nothing less than what happened. Actually I thought it could've been worse. Mercer is lucky he wasn't really seriously hurt.
Have Bonjasky have a rematch with Mercer in the boxing ring, Mercer would struggle beating him just because of Bonjasky's athleticism, but his odds of winning would be ten times greater. Mercer knows how to defend himself against punches, especially the awkward punches Bonjasky would be throwing, not being used to boxing.
This is boxing, not a karate site guys, next topic, talking about karate, kung-fu or whateva ya talkn about is BS.
If you don't like the topic you don't have to reply just for the sake of it. Several posters have replied with some knowledge about both MMA and boxing, so your reply seems out of place. Besides, not all discussions have to be about the same thing everytime.
Like i said did you not see him against tim silvia (6'8). If my memory serves me correctly, which it does he knocked him stupid.
And if you wanna give them the ufc rules that you were implying (kicks) you would have to be crazy to think klitshko could even compete.
This is boxing, not a karate site guys, next topic, talking about karate, kung-fu or whateva ya talkn about is BS.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this at the beginning of the thread, my apologies for skipping through all of the above said..
But just wanted to mention that:
NO BOXER CAN STAND A CHANCE AGAINST A PROFESSIONAL MMA FIGHTER!
A Boxer will be taken down immediately and EASILY outworked to a submission
That Jab, Jab, Jab bullshit won't work.
As the thread went on, I went more for a kickboxing match instead of MMA. I talk about Arlovski vs. Vitali.
I think that if Vitali kept practicing his kicks, he should still have the ability, so a kickboxing match against Arlovski sounds very interesting. It would make lots of money, that's for sure.
About the Arlovski-Sylvia fight, Arlovski knocked Tym down and then submitted him with an ankle lock.
I believe that Vitali is a converted Kick Boxer..
And the only way he stands a chance is only in a K1 competition (Stand Up Rules Only, no take downs)
Guys, would you like to see this kind of match? A match between Vitali Klitschko and one of the top MMA heavyweights in the world?
Those who watch both boxing and MMA(like I do) should know that the best heavyweights that Pride has to offer are Fedor Emelianenko and Mirko Filipovic. UFC offers Frank Mir and Andrei Arlovski(who fights tonight at UFC 53). This match could even be MMA since Vitali is an accomplished kickboxer, but then again I doubt that Klitschko has any ground skills, making the fight a mismatch if it goes to the ground. I expect to get some replies from serious fans who know about MMA too. Not haters who only watch boxing and diss MMA without having any knowledge. This kind of event would be good to determine who is the best fighter on the planet. There are always arguments, but events like this could put an end to certain doubts.Not sure if anyone mentioned this at the beginning of the thread, my apologies for skipping through all of the above said..
But just wanted to mention that:
NO BOXER CAN STAND A CHANCE AGAINST A PROFESSIONAL MMA FIGHTER!
A Boxer will be taken down immediately and EASILY outworked to a submission
That Jab, Jab, Jab bullshit won't work.
Like i said did you not see him against tim silvia (6'8). If my memory serves me correctly, which it does he knocked him stupid.
And if you wanna give them the ufc rules that you were implying (kicks) you would have to be crazy to think klitshko could even compete.
I think that if Vitali kept practicing his kicks, he should still have the ability, so a kickboxing match against Arlovski sounds very interesting. It would make lots of money, that's for sure.
About the Arlovski-Sylvia fight, Arlovski knocked Tym down and then submitted him with an ankle lock.
I was not hoping to get replies from guys who just jump without paying attention to posts and here's one. I recognized that Vitali Klitschko would be in a disadvantage if the fight was MMA. I also stated that it could have been a kickboxing match because Vitali was a kickboxing champion, in case you did not know.
^yes I know he was a kickboxing champ I have a couple of his videos and they are really boring he was really skinny too and wore pants.