My top 100 P4P!

Out of pure boredom I present to you my top 100 P4P fighters in the world! (1) Bernard Hopkins (2) Winky Wright (3) Floyd Mayweather Jr (4) Kostya Tszyu (5) Marco Antonio Barrera (6) Erik Morales (7) Diego Corrales (8) Jose Luis Castillo (9) Manny Pacquiao (10) Zab Judah (11) Rafeal Marquez (12) Juan Manuel Marquez (13) Glen Johnson (14) Kassim Ouma (15) Antonio Tarver (16) Antonio Margarito (17) Jesus Chavez (18) Jean Marc Mormeck (19) Martin Casillo (20) Joel Casamayor (21) Shane Mosley (22) Jorge Arce (22) Cory Spinks (23) Felix Sturm (24) Joe Calzaghe (25) James Toney (26) Oscar Larios (27) Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (28) Vivian Harris (29) Fernando Montiel (30) Vitali Klitschko (31) Ricardo Mayorga (32) Vernon Forrest (33) Hozumi Hasegawa (34) Acelino Freitas (35) Chris Byrd (36) Miguel Cotto (37) Jermain Taylor (38) Oscar De La Hoya (39) Arturo Gatti (40) Rosendo Alvarez (41) Lorenzo Parra (42) Jeff Lacy (43) Ricky Hatton (44) Juan Diaz (45) Injin Chi (46) Juan Lazcano (47) Rocky Juarez (48) Jose Burgos (49) Ivan Calderon (50) Lamon Brewster (51) Wayne Braithwaite (51) Felix Trinidad (52) Fernando Vargas (53) Javier Castillejo (54) Ivan Calderon (55) Daniel Santos (56) Joan Guzman (57) Julio Diaz (58) Carlos Hernandez (59) Luis Perez (60) Yutaka Niida (61) John Ruiz (62) Verno Phillips (63) O'Neil Bell (64) Oktay Urkal (65) Jose Navarro (66) Veeraphol Sahaprom (67) Israel Vazquez (68) Julio Gonzalez (69) Fabrice Tiozzo (70) Junior Witter (71) Hasim Rahman (72) Travis Simms (73) Clinton Woods (74) Sharmba Mitchell (75) Sam Soliman (76) Kingsley Ikeke (77) Chris John (78) Mikkel Kessler (79) Zsolt Erdei (80) Monte Barrett (81) Robin Reid (82) Zaheer Rahim (83) Hussein Hussein (84) Vincente Mosquera (85) Kid Diamond (86) Howard Eastman (87) Demarcus Corley (88) Kermit Cintron (89) Kendall Holt (90) Dale Brown (91) Raymond Joval (92) Paul Briggs (93) Yodsan 3K Battery (94) Johnny Nelson (95) Samuel Peter (97) Robbie Peden (98) Calvin Brock (99) Robert Guerrero (100) Omar Sheika -- (okay, maybe I just wanted him on the list) Okay, so that is all of it, only took a couple hours! Feel free to tell me how awful or great it is! Credit to you for your efforts, BUT where do you start with this List? Jonny 'The Entertainer' (most ironic nickname ever! lol) Nelson? Diego Corrales at no7? B-hop and Winky Above Floyd? Tsyzu at 4? Margarito over toney and Spinks? and there were alot more discrepancies too. I Respect your view though.

What the hell!Im also bored...I'll try top thirty... 1.Floyd Mayweather Jr 2.Winky Wright 3.Manny Pacquiao 4.Rafael Marquez 5.Joe Calzaghe 6.Jermain Taylor 7.Ricky Hatton 8.JMM 9.Jose Luis Castillo 10.Ivan Calderon 11.MAB 12.Bernard Hopkins 13.Shane Mosley 14.Joel Casamayor 15.Cory Spinks 16.Chris John 17.Joan Guzman 18.Miguel Cotto 19.Mikkel Kessler 20.ODLH 21.Antonio Tarver 22.Wladimir Klitschko 23.Antonio Margarito 24.Jean-Marc Mormeck 25.Jorge Arce 26.Vic Darchinyan 27.Israel Vazquez 28.O'Neil Bell 29.Juan Diaz 30.Carlos Baldomir

I thought they got the point after your post but then more people just kept hating. That's what people on this site are like mate. Hate, hate and even more hate.

Exactly what I said! I thought they got the point after your post but then more people just kept hating.

Guys this list is two years old so he really shouldn't be taking any flack for this shit. Exactly what I said!

Guys this list is two years old so he really shouldn't be taking any flack for this shit. Exactly what I said!

Guys this list is two years old so he really shouldn't be taking any flack for this shit.

Why is Trinidad in the list?? Where's Hugo Cazares?

It's nearly two years old guys. Look at the dates :pat:

Wow. I mean, wow.

thats the worst p4p list i`ve ever read...

Ivan Calderon is 54?!?!??! i think the guy could be top 10 if not 5

yeh at this point in time, Sturm,Johnson,Judah,Morales etc above Calzaghe would be a piss take

Oh my my my, how a little time can change things...

Good that Trinidad is not on the list anymore. I did not agree with the ranking you gave him. It's better now. Yeah, it is really looking like he is not coming back this time... So away he goes.

Okay, here is the recently updated list. Bold indicates a large change in position or a debut. And yes, I do have too much free time on my hands. Top 100 P4P: (1) Bernard Hopkins (2) Winky Wright (3) Floyd Mayweather Jr (4) Marco Antonio Barrera (5) Erik Morales (6) Diego Corrales (7) Jose Luis Castillo (8) Manny Pacquiao (9) Zab Judah (10) Rafeal Marquez (11) Ricky Hatton (+32) (12) Kostya Tszyu (-9) (13) Juan Manuel Marquez (14) Glen Johnson (15) Kassim Ouma (16) Antonio Tarver (17) Antonio Margarito (18) Jesus Chavez (19) Jean Marc Mormeck (20) Martin Castillo (21) Joel Casamayor (22) Shane Mosley (22) Jorge Arce (23) Cory Spinks (24) Felix Sturm (25) Joe Calzaghe (26) James Toney (27) Oscar Larios (28) Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (29) Vivian Harris (30) Fernando Montiel (31) Vitali Klistschko (32) Ricardo Mayorga (33) Vernon Forrest (34) Hozumi Hasegawa (35) Acelino Freitas (36) Chris Byrd (37) Miguel Cotto (38) Jermain Taylor (39) Oscar De La Hoya (40) Arturo Gatti (41) Rosendo Alvarez (42) Lorezno Parra (43) Jeff Lacy (44) Juan Diaz (45) Injin Chi (46) Juan Lazcano (47) Rocky Juarez (48) Julio Diaz (+9) (49) Jose Burgos (50) Ivan Calderon (51) Lamon Brewster (51) Wayne Braithwaite (52) Fernando Vargas (53) Javier Castillejo (54) Ivan Calderon (55) Daniel Santos (56) Joan Guzman (57) Carlos Hernandez (58) Luis Perez (59) Yutaka Niida (60) John Ruiz (61) Verno Phillips (62) O’Neil Bell (63) Scott Harrison (debut) (64) Oktay Urkal (65) Jose Navarro (66) Veeraphol Sahaprom (67) Israel Vazquez (68) Julio Gonzalez (69) Fabrice Tiozzo (70) Junior Witter (71) Hasim Rahman (72) Travis Simms (73) Clinton Woods (74) Tomasz Adamek (debut) (75) Sharmba Mitchell (76) Sam Soliman (77) Kingsley Ikeke (78) Chris John (79) Mikkel Kessler (80) Zsolt Erdei (81) Monte Barrett (82) Robin Reid (83) Zaheer Rahim (84) Hussein Hussein (85) Vincente Mosquera (86) Kid Diamond (87) Howard Eastman (88) Demarcus Corley (89) Kermit Cintron (90) Kendall Holt (91) Dale Brown (92) Raymond Joval (93) Yodsan 3K Battery (94) Johnny Nelson (95) Samuel Peter (97) Robbie Peden (98) Carlos Baldomir (debut) (99) Calvin Brock (100) Robert Guerrero Gone from list: Paul Briggs, Felix Trinidad (due to retirement), Omar Sheika Good that Trinidad is not on the list anymore. I did not agree with the ranking you gave him. It's better now.

Okay, here is the recently updated list. Bold indicates a large change in position or a debut. And yes, I do have too much free time on my hands. Top 100 P4P: (1) Bernard Hopkins (2) Winky Wright (3) Floyd Mayweather Jr (4) Marco Antonio Barrera (5) Erik Morales (6) Diego Corrales (7) Jose Luis Castillo (8) Manny Pacquiao (9) Zab Judah (10) Rafeal Marquez (11) Ricky Hatton (+32) (12) Kostya Tszyu (-9) (13) Juan Manuel Marquez (14) Glen Johnson (15) Kassim Ouma (16) Antonio Tarver (17) Antonio Margarito (18) Jesus Chavez (19) Jean Marc Mormeck (20) Martin Castillo (21) Joel Casamayor (22) Shane Mosley (22) Jorge Arce (23) Cory Spinks (24) Felix Sturm (25) Joe Calzaghe (26) James Toney (27) Oscar Larios (28) Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (29) Vivian Harris (30) Fernando Montiel (31) Vitali Klistschko (32) Ricardo Mayorga (33) Vernon Forrest (34) Hozumi Hasegawa (35) Acelino Freitas (36) Chris Byrd (37) Miguel Cotto (38) Jermain Taylor (39) Oscar De La Hoya (40) Arturo Gatti (41) Rosendo Alvarez (42) Lorezno Parra (43) Jeff Lacy (44) Juan Diaz (45) Injin Chi (46) Juan Lazcano (47) Rocky Juarez (48) Julio Diaz (+9) (49) Jose Burgos (50) Ivan Calderon (51) Lamon Brewster (51) Wayne Braithwaite (52) Fernando Vargas (53) Javier Castillejo (54) Ivan Calderon (55) Daniel Santos (56) Joan Guzman (57) Carlos Hernandez (58) Luis Perez (59) Yutaka Niida (60) John Ruiz (61) Verno Phillips (62) O’Neil Bell (63) Scott Harrison (debut) (64) Oktay Urkal (65) Jose Navarro (66) Veeraphol Sahaprom (67) Israel Vazquez (68) Julio Gonzalez (69) Fabrice Tiozzo (70) Junior Witter (71) Hasim Rahman (72) Travis Simms (73) Clinton Woods (74) Tomasz Adamek (debut) (75) Sharmba Mitchell (76) Sam Soliman (77) Kingsley Ikeke (78) Chris John (79) Mikkel Kessler (80) Zsolt Erdei (81) Monte Barrett (82) Robin Reid (83) Zaheer Rahim (84) Hussein Hussein (85) Vincente Mosquera (86) Kid Diamond (87) Howard Eastman (88) Demarcus Corley (89) Kermit Cintron (90) Kendall Holt (91) Dale Brown (92) Raymond Joval (93) Yodsan 3K Battery (94) Johnny Nelson (95) Samuel Peter (97) Robbie Peden (98) Carlos Baldomir (debut) (99) Calvin Brock (100) Robert Guerrero Gone from list: Paul Briggs, Felix Trinidad (due to retirement), Omar Sheika

Nice work, on the list....

Yeah I am on par with you on alot of this. I think Tito is a much better fighter then Mayorga talent wise. This is not a ranking of skill or even career accomplishment overall, my list is just about the more recent past. And as much as I like Trinidad he has not beaten a upper echelon (and actual) middleweight since 2001 when he fought Joppy. That is a long time ago. Basically all I am looking at for Tito is his last three fights a win over the much smaller Mayorga, a win over the undertalented Cherifi, and a loss to Winky Wright. In all honosty I think that the Hopkins loss happened to long ago to be a factor anyway! Mayorga meanwhile has only lost a very close decision to Cory Spinks and a loss to Trinidad fourteen pounds heavier then he is accustomed to fighting at. I am not even entirely sure that Mayorga would be able to beat Trinidad at 140, but I am not sure he couldn't either, and this I really can't take that kind of speculation into account. That's a point there. I know that Trinidad did not do much with his comeback, but it's good to know that you give Trinidad the higher rating skillwise. It's obvious anyway, so it's good to read that. Trinidad is one of the top 5 boxers of his generation.

I am an open minded fan, but I can't understand why Mayorga should rate higher than Trinidad after the beating he took. Yes, Trinidad was dominated by Hopkins and Wright, but consider Trinidad's achievements and level of opposition. It's actually not even close. Trinidad is a sure HOF while Mayorga is not. Also, Mayorga has some losses to journeymen who are only recognized by their relatives. Trinidad lost to one of the greatest middles ever and to Wright, who is P4P if you know what I mean. Yeah I am on par with you on alot of this. I think Tito is a much better fighter then Mayorga talent wise. This is not a ranking of skill or even career accomplishment overall, my list is just about the more recent past. And as much as I like Trinidad he has not beaten a upper echelon (and actual) middleweight since 2001 when he fought Joppy. That is a long time ago. Basically all I am looking at for Tito is his last three fights a win over the much smaller Mayorga, a win over the undertalented Cherifi, and a loss to Winky Wright. In all honosty I think that the Hopkins loss happened to long ago to be a factor anyway! Mayorga meanwhile has only lost a very close decision to Cory Spinks and a loss to Trinidad fourteen pounds heavier then he is accustomed to fighting at. I am not even entirely sure that Mayorga would be able to beat Trinidad at 140, but I am not sure he couldn't either, and this I really can't take that kind of speculation into account.