Boxers using Supplements is it cheating?

there is a reason some stuff is legal and some is not.. don't you think? ^yes, have you taken any?

Alot of these boxers are using supplements and some even steroids! Combine that with natural talent sutch as james toney or roy jones and shane mosley does that give and unfair advantage? Mosley said he took creatine I believe vargas took creatine and list goes on! I take a supplement but I do not think it is an enhancer its call ERGOPHARM gf-pro its whey protein isolate I mix it with water and take it first thing in the morning and after I workout it really helps my muscle recover been on it for a week. http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/graphics/Products/ErgoPharm/gf_pro.jpg Anyone here believe in supplementing are you for it or against it? there is a reason some stuff is legal and some is not.. don't you think?

Does steroids make you better defensivley? Does steroids help your timing? Does steroids make you faster? Does steroids make you smarter? no, BUT... Steroids give you power, strength, and endurance! DUH lol

Taking suplements is not cheating. These are nothing but concentrated dosed of nutrients, minerals and vitamins. And as posted earlier it is available to everybody who wishes to use it. Now there are rules and list of not allowed products . . . and this is where the line is. You use BANNED and Forbidden products then that's cheating. :boxing: PSO Junior, you always write very good words. I always read them and think carefully after reading them. I also want to add that I think you have one of the best avatars ever! It looks neat! I also liked the old wise man smoking a pipe. That was a good avatar too. Thank you pso junior.

Alot of these boxers are using supplements and some even steroids! Combine that with natural talent sutch as james toney or roy jones and shane mosley does that give and unfair advantage? Mosley said he took creatine I believe vargas took creatine and list goes on! I take a supplement but I do not think it is an enhancer its call ERGOPHARM gf-pro its whey protein isolate I mix it with water and take it first thing in the morning and after I workout it really helps my muscle recover been on it for a week. http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/graphics/Products/ErgoPharm/gf_pro.jpg Anyone here believe in supplementing are you for it or against it? Nope. Nothin wrong with it.

I only use whey protein, creatine, and ripped fuel. Only ripped fuel is banned I heard. ^why do you use them? how long have you been using them?and have you seen any difference or gains?

I only use whey protein, creatine, and ripped fuel. Only ripped fuel is banned I heard.

over the counter supplements arent cheating, they are available to both camps and are publicly used. ^dont you think there is any advantage using those? I know they can get to your blood stream faster like creatine, and whey isolate.

over the counter supplements arent cheating, they are available to both camps and are publicly used.

Vargas has a new style that will own up 154. At least untill Oscar fights him again.

yes..most likely the cause of his injuries have to do something with the roids. its a shame cause he is barely in his prime he is so young and his last fight he looked so bad and slow mayorga vs vargas would have been a fight to watch.

yes..most likely the cause of his injuries have to do something with the roids.

I think he can recover..he just needs to be on a strict regimen, he is still young. naw he has a bad thryoid problem probally caused by roids.

I think he can recover..he just needs to be on a strict regimen, he is still young.

Correct Steroids have bad side effects thats why there illegal without a prescription. But they will help you in a fight but yes in the long wrong its not worth it, becuase your body stops producging its own testosterone which in turn will lead to bone damage, liver, kidney failure etc.. ^that is why fernando vargas will never ever be the same fighter! he wanted to beat oscar so bad he juiced.

^but it doesnt help for career longevity because even if he cannot feel those painful punches his body will show the effects later on. Fernando Vargas as juiced when he fought oscar and look at him now it messed with his body now he has a hyperthrodism I can bet you it was from the abnormal amount of testosterone that messed with his natural chemical balance in his body. Correct Steroids have bad side effects thats why there illegal without a prescription. But they will help you in a fight but yes in the long wrong its not worth it, becuase your body stops producging its own testosterone which in turn will lead to bone damage, liver, kidney failure etc..

If you think steroids dont help in boxing your wrong dude..you see how foot ball players on roids play, they can play trough pain just like a boxer would be able to take more punches and difinalty be more aggresive and stronger. It might not improve punching power but it will improve overall strenght. ^but it doesnt help for career longevity because even if he cannot feel those painful punches his body will show the effects later on. Fernando Vargas as juiced when he fought oscar and look at him now it messed with his body now he has a hyperthrodism I can bet you it was from the abnormal amount of testosterone that messed with his natural chemical balance in his body.

^I said in my first post combine steroids with natural talented boxers such as james toney, and so forth! I believe steroids doesnt help in boxing cause you need stamina and endurance and steroids is good for quick bursts. now what about supplements? If you think steroids dont help in boxing your wrong dude..you see how foot ball players on roids play, they can play trough pain just like a boxer would be able to take more punches and difinalty be more aggresive and stronger. It might not improve punching power but it will improve overall strenght.

Does steroids make you better defensivley? Does steroids help your timing? Does steroids make you faster? Does steroids make you smarter? ^I said in my first post combine steroids with natural talented boxers such as james toney, and so forth! I believe steroids doesnt help in boxing cause you need stamina and endurance and steroids is good for quick bursts. now what about supplements?

no..but steroids makes you stronger and makes you more aggresive and also helps you absorb punishment and also makes you recover quicker so you body grows faster.