Can Tyson ever again become Undisputed Heavyweight Champion

No way in hell, IRON Mike Tyson died in 1996 :mad:

Iron Mike is simply not the Iron Mike of the past. Mike Tyson does not have the fire in his eyes anymore. He simply wants a paycheck to pay of his debts and he really has not desire to go on. When Mike Tyson was put down by Danny "the Doughboy" Williams did you notice the look on his face?? It wasnt a damn I am hurt look it was more of an oh well I got knocked down and my leg is hurt but I am getting 3 million dollars, I don't feel like getting up. If this were a young Tyson first of all he wouldnt have been knocked down by such a bum. Secondly if he did get knocked down you would have seen this spark in his eye that would have meant he wanted revenge and he was going to get up and kick some serious Ass! Nowadays he is kissing mens hands (Lennox Lewis) and he is very humble. The spirit is gone and he no longer wants to fight, he is in the ring but his spirit is just not there. In the olden days Dr. Vitali poor sport Bitchko would have been destroyed by Mike Tyson with ease. Nowadays Mike can't even get the desire to shadow box. And keven Fenech can work Miracles but he can't regenerate a spirit.

I heard that Jeff Fenech is a miracle worker and that he has been doing alot of good things with Tyson recently. I have also read varies articles on ESPN.com and on this website on how people who are close to Tyson has seen him work as hard in the gym as he did when he was champ. Also, I'm probaly alittle bit too over-optimistic. ;) Sad to say it, but Aluminum Mike would be a betting favorite vs. any title holder not named Quitali

IF he could stay active, but he hasnt been active the last 10 YEARS!!!! what makes you think he'll start now? I heard that Jeff Fenech is a miracle worker and that he has been doing alot of good things with Tyson recently. I have also read varies articles on ESPN.com and on this website on how people who are close to Tyson has seen him work as hard in the gym as he did when he was champ. Also, I'm probaly alittle bit too over-optimistic. ;)

I think if Tyson can fight and win a couple more fights this year he would be in a good position to fight for one of the million alphabet heavyweight titles out there. The key to Tyson's sucess is to stay in condition between fights and to fight alittle more frequenctly than he has in the last decade. IMO if Tyson was fighting 3-4 times a year he would be in peak condition, mentally and physically. Also, I think a rematch and a win over Danny Williams in the late fall would put him in contension for a title shot as well as help him financially. IF he could stay active, but he hasnt been active the last 10 YEARS!!!! what makes you think he'll start now?

It was not ridiculous to me. Tyson looked like shit in training before facing Williams and came in at his 3rd highest weight ever at 233. Hell I would give Danny Williams a good chance to beat Byrd Ruiz or Brewster as well. i think williams sucks... byrd and ruiz would not be as huge an underdog to tyson like williams was...

I think if Tyson can fight and win a couple more fights this year he would be in a good position to fight for one of the million alphabet heavyweight titles out there. The key to Tyson's sucess is to stay in condition between fights and to fight alittle more frequenctly than he has in the last decade. IMO if Tyson was fighting 3-4 times a year he would be in peak condition, mentally and physically. Also, I think a rematch and a win over Danny Williams in the late fall would put him in contension for a title shot as well as help him financially.

how ridiculous was it to envision williams beating tyson?? It was not ridiculous to me. Tyson looked like shit in training before facing Williams and came in at his 3rd highest weight ever at 233. Hell I would give Danny Williams a good chance to beat Byrd Ruiz or Brewster as well.

How can you pick Brewster Byrd or Ruiz to beat Tyson. That is so ridiculous. Tyson has been sparring 8 rounds in training already and working on his pacing so he is not a 2 round fighter anymore. Against somebody slow and unskilled like Brewster he could fight any pace he wanted. Against Byrd who is defensive fighter and does hit with anything serious he could fight at any pace he want and nothing Byrd has in his arsenal can deter Tyson. Byrd would be on the ropes absorbing devastating Tyson bodyshots and uppercuts in fact I think Byrd would be KO'd early. Ruiz likes to fight inside. Fighting inside with Tyson is a very bad neighborhood and John does not have a great chin he would get KO'd. Against Toney. Tyson would pound him to his soft body like has never been attacked before and give Toney his first KO loss. You say Tyson is not a contender now. He only needs to win 1 fight against a guy like Krasniqui and back into contendership and he can take any of these guys easy as long as he is conditioned and focused. Vitali Klistchko is the only that can give him problems but with Mike Tyson who knows what can happen maybe he can pull off. Maybe he can get inside and hurt Klistchko to the body and land some devastating uppercut and knock him out.

I dont care about anybody says. I just cannot picture Chris Byrd in particular or Lamon Brewster defeating Mike Tyson. I just cannot envision that possiblity, it seems so ridiculous to me. how ridiculous was it to envision williams beating tyson??

If Ruiz beats Vitali and Byrd then i`d pick him to KO Tyson within 6 rounds! Yeah, you got a point there!

Yes, if Ruiz beats Vitali and Chris Byrd, and Tyson signs with Don King, he can win the unified title. If Ruiz beats Vitali and Byrd then i`d pick him to KO Tyson within 6 rounds!

Yes, if Ruiz beats Vitali and Chris Byrd, and Tyson signs with Don King, he can win the unified title.

bruno is decent, but that was like 9-10 years ago... seldon just sucks, one of the worse champs in history.... look at the last half decade for tyson, 4 fights, 2 wins against bums... tyson might have one or two more quality wins left him, but i would not make him the favorite over any good opposition... i like tyson, his fights are entertaining, win or lose, but he's just not a top contender anymore... i can see there's no convicning you, so i'll just wait til tyson loses again, just like when we diagreed with your boy golota.... I dont care about anybody says. I just cannot picture Chris Byrd in particular or Lamon Brewster defeating Mike Tyson. I just cannot envision that possiblity, it seems so ridiculous to me.

Golota was never the mandatory. Byrd took Golota as his optional title defence. He took McCline also I believe as his option title defence. For some reason the IBF have had no #1 contender (mandatory) ranked for some time. And Like I said Bruno and Seldon are as good of champs as Brewster and Byrd and Ruiz and Tyson KO'd both of them early. And like said I think Bruno would beat Ruiz Byrd or Brewster. He was not that bad of champion. He only lost 3 times I believe and 2 of those times were to Tyson. The other time was to Lennox Lewis and all his wins were by KO with the exception 2. That is definitely a quality win. bruno is decent, but that was like 9-10 years ago... seldon just sucks, one of the worse champs in history.... look at the last half decade for tyson, 4 fights, 2 wins against bums... tyson might have one or two more quality wins left him, but i would not make him the favorite over any good opposition... i like tyson, his fights are entertaining, win or lose, but he's just not a top contender anymore... i can see there's no convicning you, so i'll just wait til tyson loses again, just like when we diagreed with your boy golota....

ever hear of the term "paper champ"??? being a champ doesn't necessarily mean you're a great fighter or even a good one... king is able to buy rankings and title shots... look at what he did for golota, AG went from unranked to mandatory immediately after signing with king... even with all that aside, doesnt change the fact that bruce seldon NEVER beat anyone Golota was never the mandatory. Byrd took Golota as his optional title defence. He took McCline also I believe as his option title defence. For some reason the IBF have had no #1 contender (mandatory) ranked for some time. And Like I said Bruno and Seldon are as good of champs as Brewster and Byrd and Ruiz and Tyson KO'd both of them early. And like said I think Bruno would beat Ruiz Byrd or Brewster. He was not that bad of champion. He only lost 3 times I believe and 2 of those times were to Tyson. The other time was to Lennox Lewis and all his wins were by KO with the exception 2. That is definitely a quality win.

So what he was still champ. Bruno was champ. They were champs. If you beat a champ its a quality win. Look how hard it is get the belt out Ruiz hands. You think Bruce Seldon and Frank Bruno would have no chance againt Ruiz or Byrd or Brewster. I think Bruno could beat all 3 those guys. ever hear of the term "paper champ"??? being a champ doesn't necessarily mean you're a great fighter or even a good one... king is able to buy rankings and title shots... look at what he did for golota, AG went from unranked to mandatory immediately after signing with king... even with all that aside, doesnt change the fact that bruce seldon NEVER beat anyone

bruce seldon is one of the worse champs of all time, look at his resume.. he never beaten a good fighter... he only became champ cause he signed with don king... what did he do to ever deserve the title??? nothing... byrd having close fights with AG and JM, is still more than anything tyson has done in the few years... even if you think byrd lost those fights, it show he belongs in the same league as those guys... rahman has been KO'd, but he also shown some durablity... against sanders he got up off floor to win, tyson has never done that... this isnt 1987.... its' 2005 and tyson was shut out against lewis unlike rahman... KO'd by williams.. and even struggle to beat botha... he's only fought 4 times in 5 years for just 20 rounds... 2 KO losses, 2 wins over eteinne and neilsen... So what he was still champ. Bruno was champ. They were champs. If you beat a champ its a quality win. Look how hard it is get the belt out Ruiz hands. You think Bruce Seldon and Frank Bruno would have no chance againt Ruiz or Byrd or Brewster. I think Bruno could beat all 3 those guys.

bruce seldon is one of the worse champs of all time, look at his resume.. he never beaten a good fighter... he only became champ cause he signed with don king... what did he do to ever deserve the title??? nothing... byrd having close fights with AG and JM, is still more than anything tyson has done in the few years... even if you think byrd lost those fights, it show he belongs in the same league as those guys... rahman has been KO'd, but he also shown some durablity... against sanders he got up off floor to win, tyson has never done that... this isnt 1987.... its' 2005 and tyson was shut out against lewis unlike rahman... KO'd by williams.. and even struggle to beat botha... he's only fought 4 times in 5 years for just 20 rounds... 2 KO losses, 2 wins over eteinne and neilsen...

rahman has been KO'd, but he's durable and can box when he has a 1 dimensional fighter like tyson in front of him, see his fights with tua.... byrd could box circles around tyson as would toney... VK stamina's problems are a myth til proven, he has several late round KO's... Let's not forget we area talking about a 40 year old, inactive, injured tyson... he hasn't even beaten a DECENT opponent in years.. i dont see how he'll beat the contenders and champions of today... i'll admit that ruiz, rahman, byrd, toney, vk aren't the greatest crop of heavyweights, but to think that tyson at this stage of his career can beat all of them is crazy... tyson has done NOTHING to suggest that he can still compete with them... Tyson's handspeed is just as good as Byrd's and Byrd's skills are overrate. Byrd is just totally overrated in general sence. He lost to Andrew Golota quite clearly and he barely made it past Jameel McCline who just lost to Calvin Brock. But he is the boxrec numero uno Heavyweight for what it is worth. And Rahman's chin sucks. He been knocked out alot of times. And he lost to C caliber opponents and been knocked out by them like Maskaev. I hate when people say like Frank Lotziero that Tyson has not beat a decent fighter since 1991 that is complete bullshit. He beat Bruce Seldon for the WBA title in in 1995. He beat Frank Bruno for the WBC title in in 1995 or 1996. I dont know how you dont count beating chapions like Bruno WBC and Seldon WBA (by early KO no less) as quality wins.