Lets say Erik Morales moves up to 135 to challenge Juan Diaz for his belt and vacates his 130lb. title.
Who would you guys pick between Jesus and Manny?
I give the slight edge to PACQUIAO.
I'd take Pacman by late round stoppage... As small as Pac is, he never was really hurt by Morales. Chavez on the other hand got dropped twice by El Terrible.
I say that to say, Pac can KO Chavez in probably the runner up for fight of the year.
lol
well dats only cuz chavez aint much
like i said b4
i aint a pac hater
i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
look at this shiznite this foo actually been postin tryin to suck the last juices of them nuts from them foos! Funny shiznite out o this joint aint even funny when this doo start talkin! LOL
Trust me.....if Chavez aint much, then YOU AINT SHYT!
In the time bein, suck on this :bottle:, the weiner you ordered fo aint available yet!
Your so one sided. Chaves has been in with top guys also and the weight is a big differnce so stop down playing it. Chaves has been at 130 his whole career while Pac started at like 118 or 115. You act like you never heard of guys not carrying the power. Ever Morlaes lost alot of power. Pac loses power from 126-130 and also more importantly the guys are bigger and stronger and used to power. The same punches that hurt small guys wont hurt big guys. You said Pac had power at 126 but those guys were small he was fighting. MAB and Marquez didnt start there. Chaves is a full fledge 130 pounder and Pac's punches wont be nothing special to him
How can you say his power is nothing special at 130 when he made Morales fold in the first round not to mention buckling his knees on a couple of occasions and he only landed clean a few times? Faak you're acting as if Pac made a jump to welterweight. Of course you'll lose some power but you don't exactly become featherfisted when you jump 4 fucking pounds lmao. YOU act like you've never heard of guys actually carrying their power lol. Morales started at bantamweight and still knocked Chavez down twice. Nah if Chavez chin holds which it will (being down at least once) Pac takes a decision with his faster hands. Marquez is a natural featherweight and can easily go to 130 with no problems being just as competitive and he still went down 3 times.
lmao so in other words you're saying you don't think he can beat any mexicans? :D hehehehe
Anyweyz, Pac has trouble dealing with good, accurate counterpunchers, not guys who bring it to him. I'll start worrying if he faces a harder target to hit. But when the guy is coming to him? lol yoooo 126 or 130 fuck that the kid can still knock your teeth out. 130 is much no problem, he's just gotta get accustomed to carrying the weight and not come in nearing 140 cuz that's crazy. Chavez is also 5'5 so size disparity? meh negligeable.
Pac's still got the power and the handspeed was somewhat there although not as fast as when he was at 126. Pac's faced mad caliber of opponents in his 4 fights. Chavez won't be something he's never seen. Charted territory....
Your so one sided. Chaves has been in with top guys also and the weight is a big differnce so stop down playing it. Chaves has been at 130 his whole career while Pac started at like 118 or 115. You act like you never heard of guys not carrying the power. Ever Morlaes lost alot of power. Pac loses power from 126-130 and also more importantly the guys are bigger and stronger and used to power. The same punches that hurt small guys wont hurt big guys. You said Pac had power at 126 but those guys were small he was fighting. MAB and Marquez didnt start there. Chaves is a full fledge 130 pounder and Pac's punches wont be nothing special to him
Lets say Erik Morales moves up to 135 to challenge Juan Diaz for his belt and vacates his 130lb. title.
Who would you guys pick between Jesus and Manny?
I give the slight edge to PACQUIAO.
My first time to hear that he still has a title. I thought he lost the title to MAB. :confused:
lol
well dats only cuz chavez aint much
like i said b4
i aint a pac r
i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
bwahahahahahahaha!!!! yeah right , you're not a pac hater alright! :boxing:
no
im sure deres plenty of mexicans he can beat
just not those guys i mentioned
lol ok ok but is there any other mexicans worth mentioning that he can beat? I mean he's already undefeated against 2 of the most skilled fighters in your list but hey, let's call it lucky :dance:
lmao so in other words you're saying you don't think he can beat any mexicans? :D hehehehe
no
im sure deres plenty of mexicans he can beat
just not those guys i mentioned
lol
well dats only cuz chavez aint much
like i said b4
i aint a pac hater
i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
lmao so in other words you're saying you don't think he can beat any mexicans? :D hehehehe
Anyweyz, Pac has trouble dealing with good, accurate counterpunchers, not guys who bring it to him. I'll start worrying if he faces a harder target to hit. But when the guy is coming to him? lol yoooo 126 or 130 fuck that the kid can still knock your teeth out. 130 is much no problem, he's just gotta get accustomed to carrying the weight and not come in nearing 140 cuz that's crazy. Chavez is also 5'5 so size disparity? meh negligeable.
Pac's still got the power and the handspeed was somewhat there although not as fast as when he was at 126. Pac's faced mad caliber of opponents in his 4 fights. Chavez won't be something he's never seen. Charted territory....
lol
well dats only cuz chavez aint much
like i said b4
i aint a pac hater
i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
U just said you dont think he can beat MAB again!
YOU THE GREATEST!!!!(next to me)
HELL YA, MAB THE GREATEST!
Did you just say Pac ko's a Mexican fighter!?
Whoa..surprised:D
Abdiel come to chat..
lol
well dats only cuz chavez aint much
like i said b4
i aint a pac hater
i just dont think he can beat jmm mab,again, em rafa or prolly nt even larios
ya dats all im sayin
i just htink the wieght is to big an obstacle
if chavez was a 126 fighter
and the fight was there
then id prolly go pac by mid KO
Did you just say Pac ko's a Mexican fighter!?
Whoa..surprised:D
Abdiel come to chat..
Oh wait, this fight will happen at 130? Ok forget it, Chavez wins a UD. Pac has no speed at 130, especially coming in at 140-142. Speed was Manny's greatest asset because it made his devastating power blinding as no one could see his punches coming. Now that they can, they can prepare for it and it just doesn't even look like he's a strong fighter without his speed at this weight. Looks like an average fighter that if he didn't throw as many punches as he did, would have been a complete shut out by Morales. He needs to go back down to 126lbs otherwise the road for Pacman stops here.
ya dats all im sayin
i just htink the wieght is to big an obstacle
if chavez was a 126 fighter
and the fight was there
then id prolly go pac by mid KO
Oh wait, this fight will happen at 130? Ok forget it, Chavez wins a UD. Pac has no speed at 130, especially coming in at 140-142. Speed was Manny's greatest asset because it made his devastating power blinding as no one could see his punches coming. Now that they can, they can prepare for it and it just doesn't even look like he's a strong fighter without his speed at this weight. Looks like an average fighter that if he didn't throw as many punches as he did, would have been a complete shut out by Morales. He needs to go back down to 126lbs otherwise the road for Pacman stops here.
told ya id come off like a hater
nah i like pac
hes prolly better skilled den chavez
but i just dont like pacs chances against the bigger chavez
i mean think about it
what gives pac problems
fighters bringin it to him
and chavez would def be comin forward
im a pac fan.... of course you know why
but honestly i may have to agree with you, pac is not yet ready for this weight
actually his body mass is more of a cross between a superbantamweight and featherweight.
this is where most champs become successful with their careers, they plan for the future, taking one step at a time
pac never belong to your vocabulary dude :p
told ya id come off like a hater
nah i like pac
hes prolly better skilled den chavez
but i just dont like pacs chances against the bigger chavez
i mean think about it
what gives pac problems
fighters bringin it to him
and chavez would def be comin forward