Valuev vs Ruiz

anybody who says ruiz will be the winner by TKO is a fucking idiot.

Beast From The East Nicolay Valuev 41-0-0 :boxing: KO - The Quiet Man John Ruiz 41-5-1

First of all how did this clumsy oaf of a fighter even become #1 contender? He became it like all other do. Who has he fought to get to the WBA's #1 contender slot? He had the same opposition as all other #1 contenders. So he beats up a washed up Ettiene (A man who had not won any of his major fights and has been feasting on B to C class opponents to even get any wins) and now he is #1 contender. It’s a wrong thought. Etienne was just his last opponent. Etienne won over the man who is a reigning champ now. So get more info before you give disrespect to somebody. The officiating in Europe is so bizzare that it makes the strange things that Jay Nady and Richard Steele have done look normal. American judges have many terrible mistakes also. The fight between he and Ruiz will be a fight filled with clenching, rabbit punching and hits behind the head which will end up in one of the two being disqualified (Probably Valuev for hitting behind the head as Ruiz no matter how many times he looses seems to have a lady luck, a Genie and a four leaf clover on his side). I pick John to win this one (Sigh I never though I would root for this guy in a million years) But in this one I actually would be. Help us all if Valuev wins as he would probably never fight outside of Europe again and the WBA would simply be on hold for the next ten years. I was laughing very much. But you mix your will with the reality. Ruiz has the only one ace against Valuev it’s Don King. He would fight people but everyone knows what happens when you fight in Europe, if you dont kill the opponent in the ring the European fighter automatically gets the nod and then if you knock them out you get disqualified for using your fist against their fighter lol hahahaha not to mention the fact that the referee is simply there to pose for the camera since they never call anything lol. You’re may be right about some European countries. For example Russia. But there is a good boxing justice in Germany today. The judges gave so many rounds to Green against Beyer. Danny didn’t win so many for real. Not long time ago the judges didn’t give a win to Urkal in the bout vs Harris that he clearly won.

But I think Klistchko could easily beat Valuev.Some time ago Valuev told that small opponents are harder to beat than tall ones. He still has small experience and it’s bad. But he fights often now and it’s very positive. I’m sure prime Tyson, Tua, Lewis would beat him now. But we’ll see at his improving next year. US heavyweights will be so useful experience for him. And I still think Klitchkos are the most overrated ones in modern boxing. They will fall without Valuev. Their only strenght is their opponents fear. Lewis was rotting dead when stepped in the ring against Klitchko and he TKOed him. Prime Rahman or average shaped Tus would KO 2-3 that Lewis.

Think he weighed like 330 in his fight vs. Etienne, probably needs to weigh about 300 tops, looks like a 80 year old ape lol

It is hilarious to watch him fight....They should match him up against Vitali so he could be the shorter man for a change...in his fight against Etienne he looked ok, still a little sloppy and he did get hit a lot..he needs some stiffer competition before he goes up against the big boys...Ruiz would have a hard time grappling though since Valuez could toss him around like a rag doll....Etienne jumped up to hit him and he put his arms up and pushed him....Etienne flew bout three feet...pretty funny. He also looks OLD.

Yeh, freak and ya know it, I just searched google images and saw several pics of this guy. I also looked at boxrec.com and saw his impressive record of 41 wins w/31 knockouts and no defeats. Why hasn't he fought any known fighters besides the 'black rhino?' How do you guys think he would do against Vitali,Wlad,Peters,Toney,Byrd...? IMO he(valuev) would be too tall for Tyson, but what do I know I've never seen the guy fight. its hard to say cause of his lack of opposition.... the big question will be can he take a punch? is he durable? with the exception of VK, most huge guys aren't....

Yeh, freak and ya know it, I just searched google images and saw several pics of this guy. I also looked at boxrec.com and saw his impressive record of 41 wins w/31 knockouts and no defeats. Why hasn't he fought any known fighters besides the 'black rhino?' How do you guys think he would do against Vitali,Wlad,Peters,Toney,Byrd...? IMO he(valuev) would be too tall for Tyson, but what do I know I've never seen the guy fight. To see a video of him, go to Gallery section and search for his name. I've been following him for a while.. but he's been fighting no bodies in Germany.. perhaps now he can get exposed more... But I think he can be easily out worked by any top 10 (excluding Ruiz) fighter

Because he is 7 feet tall and weighs 300 pounds or something....He made Etienne look like a dwarf. :lol1: Yeh, freak and ya know it, I just searched google images and saw several pics of this guy. I also looked at boxrec.com and saw his impressive record of 41 wins w/31 knockouts and no defeats. Why hasn't he fought any known fighters besides the 'black rhino?' How do you guys think he would do against Vitali,Wlad,Peters,Toney,Byrd...? IMO he(valuev) would be too tall for Tyson, but what do I know I've never seen the guy fight.

I have never seen this guy Valuev fight.Has he been on HBO,Showtime,Fox Sports Net,ESPN...? Why is he considered a freak show, he record looks pretty impressive? Because he is 7 feet tall and weighs 300 pounds or something....He made Etienne look like a dwarf. :lol1:

cause valuev is such a freak show and a spectacle... plus the possibility of seeing ruiz KTFO is always interesting.. I have never seen this guy Valuev fight.Has he been on HBO,Showtime,Fox Sports Net,ESPN...? Why is he considered a freak show, he record looks pretty impressive?

cause valuev is such a freak show and a spectacle... plus the possibility of seeing ruiz KTFO is always interesting..

Wow, I'm amazed that a Ruiz thread could generate so many pages! :o Anyways, is this bout in the making? I haven't heard anything on the news sections of any boxing websites. Why is there so much interest in this matchup?

Who do you think will in this fight that is supposedly to take place in the near future. My mouth salivates at the thought of this one...

#1 WBA is vacant now. Nik is the #2. That is correct. I just checked the WBA rankings via their website to see if that is true. Maybe Ruiz will fight him anyway. He would probably make more money fighting Valuev in Germany than fighting anybody else. He would probably make more from fighting Valuev than fighting Byrd. The only person that would make more money would for him to fight Klistchko but Don King wont let any of his title holders fight Klistchko if he can avoid it. I find it pretty retarded that Vitali Klistchko is not rated as the mandatory for any of the other sanctioning bodies. Hopefully after he fights Rahman he will be.

#1 WBA is vacant now. Nik is the #2.

helluva beating from the giant me thinks

Gattifan, you said "chin of a dentist". What does this mean? It sounds funny, my brother is a dentist, and I want to tell him! Please tell me. Also, I have seen a picture of Valuev, and he did not look fat to me. Maybe it was an old picture I saw, and he is fat now. I'm not sure what the connection is, but I'm sure he meant that Etienne doesn't take a punch very well. I wouldn't call Valuev a fat bastard, but he could slim down to 300 I'm pretty sure.

This is a joke. Cliff Etienne has the chin of a dentist. Beating him makes you the number one contender? It makes me ill that you have to pass up and screw over 20 better heavyweights to give this fat russian bastard a shot at the title. Don King sucks balls and I hope he dies very very soon. Gattifan, you said "chin of a dentist". What does this mean? It sounds funny, my brother is a dentist, and I want to tell him! Please tell me. Also, I have seen a picture of Valuev, and he did not look fat to me. Maybe it was an old picture I saw, and he is fat now.

my 2$ Acccchhhhh, Does anyone even want to watch this fight? First of all how did this clumsy oaf of a fighter even become #1 contender? Who has he fought to get to the WBA's #1 contender slot? This is ridiculous in itself and horrible. So he beats up a washed up Ettiene (A man who had not won any of his major fights and has been feasting on B to C class opponents to even get any wins) and now he is #1 contender. If it were not for the rules or lack thereof in Europe Valuev may not even have the perfect record he has today.. The officiating in Europe is so bizzare that it makes the strange things that Jay Nady and Richard Steele have done look normal. Ettienne was complaining of shots behind the head and he was of sound mind and they were not even punching at each other and the fight was stopped. The fight between he and Ruiz will be a fight filled with clenching, rabbit punching and hits behind the head which will end up in one of the two being disqualified (Probably Valuev for hitting behind the head as Ruiz no matter how many times he looses seems to have a lady luck, a Genie and a four leaf clover on his side). I pick John to win this one (Sigh I never though I would root for this guy in a million years) But in this one I actually would be. Help us all if Valuev wins as he would probably never fight outside of Europe again and the WBA would simply be on hold for the next ten years. (He would fight people but everyone knows what happens when you fight in Europe, if you dont kill the opponent in the ring the European fighter automatically gets the nod and then if you knock them out you get disqualified for using your fist against their fighter lol hahahaha not to mention the fact that the referee is simply there to pose for the camera since they never call anything lol.