Ok. this has become painfully obvious. Suspicion #1 He chose to fight a relatively unknown in Taylor...fine. Taylor is an up and comer. Then he says he was going to fight Tito for 8 figures (which would have happened had Tito won). Why didnt he ever say I want the WINNER of Tito/Winky fight?? Suspicion #2.
Now he says there is "not enough money" in a Winky Wright bout. Yeah right!! Who wouldnt want to see that. Of course it would be a snoozefest but so what.!.!.! Are you kidding me? What am I missing? If it looks like a DUCK"ing", quacks like a "DUCK"ing, then it must be, right?!?!?!
If money was REALLY the issue. He would have been fighting Calzaghe overseas. Didnt he get offered damn near 8 figures for that. Then ppl will say 6Mil is not enough but 10mil is?? whatever. I thought what was important to Hopkins (besides the money) is his legacy. Just fight the best. Thats all.
What i don't understand is. Why isn't there any money on a WINKY fight? Hasn't the guy proven himself enough yet?
HE'S BORING! No one wants to see a guy jab everyone to death, except the most hardcore boxing fans. The largest majority of people who watch the fights are NOT hardcore fans, they are casual fans. They want to see Tyson tear someone's head off, not Winky jab for 12 rounds.
I like Winky, and enjoy watching him fight, but the average person doesn't.
Theres absolutely no reason for Hopkins to fight Winky. Not enough money for him to take a fight like that. He has a couple more fights in him left..and he wants it to be BIG money fights. Winky beat Mosely..at middleweight..which..is too entirely impressive..but he did dominate Tito..but BOTH of them werent true middleweights. Lets see him fight some good true middleweights before we claim Winky as a "star".
Didn't he fight Mosely at Junior Middleweight?
That money excuse is bullshit.. There is definetly more money in a Winky-Bhop fight than Bhop-Taylor fight.. Someone is ducking someone and it aint Winky duckin BHop!!
B-Hop/Taylor is set now. Winky wasn't anything until a couple weeks ago.
There's more money to be made elsewhere.
I like Winky but he isnt in Hopkins league yet a few more solid fights and then we will see. Hopkins can make good money on his next fight without having to fight someone who doesnt deserve a shot yet.
Theres absolutely no reason for Hopkins to fight Winky. Not enough money for him to take a fight like that. He has a couple more fights in him left..and he wants it to be BIG money fights. Winky beat Mosely..at middleweight..which..is too entirely impressive..but he did dominate Tito..but BOTH of them werent true middleweights. Lets see him fight some good true middleweights before we claim Winky as a "star".
Ok. this has become painfully obvious. Suspicion #1 He chose to fight a relatively unknown in Taylor...fine. Taylor is an up and comer. Then he says he was going to fight Tito for 8 figures (which would have happened had Tito won). Why didnt he ever say I want the WINNER of Tito/Winky fight?? Suspicion #2.
Now he says there is "not enough money" in a Winky Wright bout. Yeah right!! Who wouldnt want to see that. Of course it would be a snoozefest but so what.!.!.! Are you kidding me? What am I missing? If it looks like a DUCK"ing", quacks like a "DUCK"ing, then it must be, right?!?!?!
no way i would pay to see them fight. unless they had a mad insane undercard.
e.g. mab-pac, jmm-morales, castillo-corrales, kostya tszyu-mayweather, klit-klit, arce-hussein, odlh-vargas, rjj-tyson. maybe if all these fights were on the undercard would i pay to see a snoozefest with winky-bhop. and at that i would prolly not watch those two fight.
Ok. this has become painfully obvious. Suspicion #1 He chose to fight a relatively unknown in Taylor...fine. Taylor is an up and comer. Then he says he was going to fight Tito for 8 figures (which would have happened had Tito won). Why didnt he ever say I want the WINNER of Tito/Winky fight?? Suspicion #2.
Now he says there is "not enough money" in a Winky Wright bout. Yeah right!! Who wouldnt want to see that. Of course it would be a snoozefest but so what.!.!.! Are you kidding me? What am I missing? If it looks like a DUCK"ing", quacks like a "DUCK"ing, then it must be, right?!?!?!
Perhaps you should ask yourself why is Winky ducking Ouma?
OK. lets nip this in the bud internet tough guy. You dont know me. It kills me how dudes sit behind a computer and type away and talk tough. Im not the one kid. Respect is demanded chump. Again. Im not the one. Got it. Back to the topic:
Read between the lines. Winky is one of the hottest fighters out but there is no money in a Bhop/Winky fight. Whatever? Sounds like a duck to me no matter how you slice it.
lmao
how was i bening an internet tought guy?
cuz i called u retarded?
hahahhahhaha
exactly tho
idk u
and u dont know me
so what the fuk r u talkin bout
He's still not gonna get any respect from genuine fight fans if he doesn't step up!
I guess you don't respect Ray Leonard then, for retiring rather than fight Hagler, waiting until Hagler was out of his prime and then fighting him?
or what about lennox lewis?i guess you don't respect him either since he 'retired' after facing vitali.
don't act like we're talking about two fighters in their primes;that would be pretty weak to see a champ duck someone his age.we're talking about a grandfather vs a kid in hopkins/wright-a 20 year age difference..
last time I checked...Hopkins was planned to fight Taylor before Winky was thought to be a factor in the MW division...when they finally did sign, Winky was already scheduled to fight Tito...now Hopkins is on contract to fight Taylor while Winky just beat Tito...Hopkins is not going to go back on his contract with Taylor for a no money fight with Winky...
I knew that people would start saying Hopkins is ducking Winky and that Hopkins is a fraud for not fighting Winky...Hopkins had a plan for Taylor, Tito, and Johnson/Tarver winner I think...he doesn't have to fight EVERY new entry into the division especially when his career is just about over
ok, damn 1st of all Winky is not that nice. There ive said it!
Winky coudlnt beat Vargas struggled 3 times to beat Bronko Mcgirt. He beat a real small fighter in Mosley and he beat the only superstar with no boxing skils in Tito. Hes not indistructible. Specially against a fighter who studies his opponents and is smart in the ring like Hopkins.
Even Papa Trinidad said, "we didnt real look at Winkys past fights, We're more focused on Tito's skills than Winky's weakness"
he's 40+ years old. winky is in his prime and has one of the best jabs the sport has ever seen. it's not exactly a dumb move to steer away from the bull with the best skills in the sport currently.sure, it tarnishes hopkins legacy a little bit,but personally i think he's smart for doing it.
say he took on wink. wink would make him look like trinidad for 12 rounds.that isnt what you wanna retire to after being undefeated 10yrs..hell no,b-hop will play it smart and go after the less technical powerpunchers that he knows he can easily tire out and win a UD on.
Nice sig......LOL!
If Hopkins ducks Winky I will not give him the respect he's looking for, if he's looking more for a PERFECT record, then fuck him...
He is a hall of famer, no doubt about it, but NO WAY will he be even close to the greatest middleweights of all time...
Look at Sugar Ray Robinson, 19 losses...
He would eat Nard and his "20 defenses"
If Nard doesn't fight Winky cuz of his record, then that ain't what a true champion does...
IF (if is the key word) he doesnt fight Winky Wright, I will not respect him like I respect Robinson, Hagler, Griffith, Grebb, Monzon,Basilio, Fullmer,Lamotta, etc.
They did not duck anybody...
he's 40+ years old. winky is in his prime and has one of the best jabs the sport has ever seen. it's not exactly a dumb move to steer away from the bull with the best skills in the sport currently.sure, it tarnishes hopkins legacy a little bit,but personally i think he's smart for doing it.
say he took on wink. wink would make him look like trinidad for 12 rounds.that isnt what you wanna retire to after being undefeated 10yrs..hell no,b-hop will play it smart and go after the less technical powerpunchers that he knows he can easily tire out and win a UD on.
If Hopkins ducks Winky I will not give him the respect he's looking for, if he's looking more for a PERFECT record, then fuck him...
He is a hall of famer, no doubt about it, but NO WAY will he be even close to the greatest middleweights of all time...
Look at Sugar Ray Robinson, 19 losses...
He would eat Nard and his "20 defenses"
If Nard doesn't fight Winky cuz of his record, then that ain't what a true champion does...
IF (if is the key word) he doesnt fight Winky Wright, I will not respect him like I respect Robinson, Hagler, Griffith, Grebb, Monzon,Basilio, Fullmer,Lamotta, etc.
They did not duck anybody...
B-Hop can't face the fact that he now got himself a man of his own size. LOL. I mean Winky is a big doo though he would be comin up in weight nah mean? Winky would beat B-Hop in my opinion no problem!
But first, B-Hop gotta lose to Taylor first. He aint gettin past my homie, man! Taylor will beat B-HOP!
OK. lets nip this in the bud internet tough guy. You dont know me. It kills me how dudes sit behind a computer and type away and talk tough. Im not the one kid. Respect is demanded chump. Again. Im not the one. Got it. Back to the topic:
Read between the lines. Winky is one of the hottest fighters out but there is no money in a Bhop/Winky fight. Whatever? Sounds like a duck to me no matter how you slice it.
using the word "retarded" wasn't nice, but abdiel has a point.
Winky wasn't even a middleweight until 10 days ago! The Taylor fight was already signed, and Hopkins says "one more fight" after that - and that's at light heavyweight.
That's hardly ducking Winky...
I can't see how, Bernard is ducking Winky. As others in this topic have said and as Hopkins said, "there's not enough money in it". I dont think that can be put anymore plainly bro. The deep boxing fans know Winky and they know how talented he is. Outside of that group, who knows Winky? He doesn't knock people out on a fight by fight basis, does he? If he did, then he could get some mainstream appeal outside of deep boxing fans and in with the casual fans and outside of that group. But he doesn't, so the interest isn't there.
The better fight is gonna be for Hopkins to fight a light heavyweight holding a title. If not for the money, then for his legacy. What would a win against Winky Wright do for him at this point in his career? You'd have even more people talking about how he only beats fighters coming up in weight. Doesn't sound like a plus to me. How many years has it been now, that people wanted to see Hopkins fight a heavier fighter? If it's not one thing, I guess it's the other. I think peeps should let him fight the heavier title holder and silence some of the critics for a while.
i dont think hopkins is ducking winky just trying to "punish" him in a way by not letting winky get a big fight cause hopkisn lsot an easy 20M cause tito lost