For all those that love a good cruiser wt. fight as much as I do, tonight on ESPN2 O'Neil Bell will be fighting Dale Brown for the IBF belt. I've seen Bell on many occasions and like him pretty well, but I am unfamiliar with Brown. Either way it goes, it's cool to have a decent cruiser wt. fight again since the last Mormeck-Braithwaite! (Just a little advance warning for those interested)
Anybody have any pics on who will win and why?
yeah, Brown knew he lost the fight, so why is everyone else defending the guy? He knew he didn't do enough, the judges knew, I knew, however the only people who don't get it are Joe Tessitore, Kevin Kelley, and about 2 dozen morons on this site...115-113 Bell was the PERFECT scorecard, Brown took rounds 3, 10, 11, and 12, but he did jack squat in the other rounds, he got cut in round 4, he was gasping for air from round 2 on....BELL WON
Oneil Bell didn't do jack shit to win this fight.Dale Brown controlled him almost the whole fight,how many times did he stun the muthafucka. :boxing:
it's all gravy tracylee, in fact I really do like 99% of your posts, this was just one topice where I felt that the announce team showed a lot of bias towards one fighter and that the fans followed their lead, no big deal, but definitely worth arguing about :)
Definately...I put those asses on mute. That works better for me cause they can infulence a person...damn near brainwash
Now youre just being stupid. Unless youre experiencing some kind of leakage around your eyes, nobody here is crying :rolleyes: I have no problem with you acting like a disrespectful little kid, if thats what works for you. I was just trying to debate with you cause youre about the only one that saw the fight that way...my bad, no problem.
it's all gravy tracylee, in fact I really do like 99% of your posts, this was just one topice where I felt that the announce team showed a lot of bias towards one fighter and that the fans followed their lead, no big deal, but definitely worth arguing about :)
sorry about the moron comment, I'll refrain from bad-mouthing all of the softies on this site, I see that I'm making you guys cry your eyes out, so I'll be a goody-2-shoes 2day :)
Now youre just being stupid. Unless youre experiencing some kind of leakage around your eyes, nobody here is crying :rolleyes: I have no problem with you acting like a disrespectful little kid, if thats what works for you. I was just trying to debate with you cause youre about the only one that saw the fight that way...my bad, no problem.
I just disagree..that does not make me or anyone else a moron. It was a blatant robbery, PERIOD! He outboxed Bell 8 out of 12 rds..yes, Bell thru the better power punches, but they seldom landed cause he refused to go in behind his jab. I dont know how you scored it a win for Bell, but I'll refrain from considering you a 'moron' for doing it. :rolleyes:
sorry about the moron comment, I'll refrain from bad-mouthing all of the softies on this site, I see that I'm making you guys cry your eyes out, so I'll be a goody-2-shoes 2day :)
yeah, Brown knew he lost the fight, so why is everyone else defending the guy? He knew he didn't do enough, the judges knew, I knew, however the only people who don't get it are Joe Tessitore, Kevin Kelley, and about 2 dozen morons on this site...115-113 Bell was the PERFECT scorecard, Brown took rounds 3, 10, 11, and 12, but he did jack squat in the other rounds, he got cut in round 4, he was gasping for air from round 2 on....BELL WON
I just disagree..that does not make me or anyone else a moron. It was a blatant robbery, PERIOD! He outboxed Bell 8 out of 12 rds..yes, Bell thru the better power punches, but they seldom landed cause he refused to go in behind his jab. I dont know how you scored it a win for Bell, but I'll refrain from considering you a 'moron' for doing it. :rolleyes:
Not much man..still in a state of shock at the flat out robbery I witnessed last night! :eek: That was an outrageous call on the 'judges' part, and they should be ashamed. Not that mine matters much, I scored it like this:
Brown won rd's: 1,2,3,7,8,9,11 &12 (the 3rd could have been a 10-8)
Bell got the other 4 rds on my card, with a score of 116-112, Brown.
What a joke~ I dont know whats more shocking..them giving him the nod, it being unaminous (check spell) or the wide margin of the win!
and it wouldnt have been quite so bad if Brown didnt look like he totally expected it when they read the decision, and then the poor guy critized HIMSELF for the things he didnt do during the fight..a fight he clearly won! Most other fighters would have been raising hell, but he kept saying that he should have done this and that...unbelievable! Poor Dale Brown got robbed, plain and simple. The fight wasnt even close. I was rooting for Bell, and kept yelling at him to establish his jab and come in behind it, and to straighten his punches (he didnt listen to me!) He totally blew that fight and has to know it!
yeah, Brown knew he lost the fight, so why is everyone else defending the guy? He knew he didn't do enough, the judges knew, I knew, however the only people who don't get it are Joe Tessitore, Kevin Kelley, and about 2 dozen morons on this site...115-113 Bell was the PERFECT scorecard, Brown took rounds 3, 10, 11, and 12, but he did jack squat in the other rounds, he got cut in round 4, he was gasping for air from round 2 on....BELL WON
Tracy, was Teddy Atlas going insane after the decision. LOL :D
Actually Teddy wasnt there..Kevin Kelly filled in for him cause he was gone to celebrate his daughters graduation (or so they said)..but everybody else there was unhappy about it, and Joe and Kevin both told O'Neil that they thought he lost, and he didnt look to pleased with their opinions!
Whats up Tracy, habn't talked to you in a while. How have you been?
Not much man..still in a state of shock at the flat out robbery I witnessed last night! :eek: That was an outrageous call on the 'judges' part, and they should be ashamed. Not that mine matters much, I scored it like this:
Brown won rd's: 1,2,3,7,8,9,11 &12 (the 3rd could have been a 10-8)
Bell got the other 4 rds on my card, with a score of 116-112, Brown.
What a joke~ I dont know whats more shocking..them giving him the nod, it being unaminous (check spell) or the wide margin of the win!
and it wouldnt have been quite so bad if Brown didnt look like he totally expected it when they read the decision, and then the poor guy critized HIMSELF for the things he didnt do during the fight..a fight he clearly won! Most other fighters would have been raising hell, but he kept saying that he should have done this and that...unbelievable! Poor Dale Brown got robbed, plain and simple. The fight wasnt even close. I was rooting for Bell, and kept yelling at him to establish his jab and come in behind it, and to straighten his punches (he didnt listen to me!) He totally blew that fight and has to know it!
What Fucking Bullshit!!! Bell Clearly Lost, I Can't Believe This Shit, Brown Should Get The Big Fights Next, Unless Bell Gives Him The Rematch And Beats Him With Out Any Controversy. Even If He Does Win In A Rematch He Will Always Have That One Fight Against Brown Looking Bad On His Record.
hmm
Did yall see my uncle? He was reffin the Sam Reese fight (the opening bout). He coulda kicked both those dudes' asses who were fightin'...lol.
(He was 350-9 in the amatuers)
I dont ever seen such blatant robberies except on ESPN. And they spend half their time expousing how great a Federal boxing commission would be. And slagging off all state commissions. ESPN probably picks who the judges are.
That's because they tend to get the "bottom of the barrel" fights that no one else is interested in broadcasting. A lot of times they are the most entertaining fights, though, because these guys want to be stars.
I do agree that we need some sort of centralized ranking body. The alphabet soup commissions we have now are rife with corruption and favoritism. It's sad when the most accurate ranking system belongs to a magazine, not a commission.
I would suggest that we all chip in, buy some belts and start the FBC (Fan's Boxing Council) and take over the world, but we would have problems in that Pac and the Klits would always be ranked #1;)
yes, because they always know when there are going to be BS decisions. That's why I always call Tessitore before I make any bets...
I dont ever seen such blatant robberies except on ESPN. And they spend half their time expousing how great a Federal boxing commission would be. And slagging off all state commissions. ESPN probably picks who the judges are.
If if was a boxer I would never sign on to fight for ESPN because they purposely televise fights where there is going to be BS descisons so they can push their federal boxing commission propaganda.
yes, because they always know when there are going to be BS decisions. That's why I always call Tessitore before I make any bets...