I didnt see the Winky fight and I know that X put a beating on Tito and stopped him but does that mean he was more dominant? From what I hear it sounds like Winky completely shut Tito out and he didnt hardly land anything and you never thought Tito had a shot at doing anything while in the Bernard fight he still landed some decent blows and you kind of thought he had a chance to land something big.
So the question to you guys is who dominated Tito more? Which also makes the question half way do you have to give the man more of a beating to be more dominant? On the other hand just because Hopkins gave him more of a beating and Tito landed some decent shots doesnt mean he wasnt more dominant because he basically shut Tito out also
Who was more dominant?
No Question It Was Hopkins. He Dominated,got the tko, and Made Him Retire. When Tito Did'nt Know How To Lose.Dlh Dominated The First Few Rounds But Could'nt Finish The Job.WInky Dominated On Points And Showed Why Dlh,trinidad And Others. Did'nt Want To Fight Him Before when they were at 154.
Hopkins is slippin ... but no way Wright would dominate him from what I've seen of him. Not yet.
No way, I've seen him that impotent in the ring. He's gonna really upset you when he beats the shit outta Taylor.
To even suggest that the Hopkins fight against Trinidad was close up until the KO is foolish. The most rounds you can give Trinidad in the Hopkins fight is round 1, if you ask me. From round 8 to 12 Hopkins laid a pure beating on Tito. Not only was he outscoring him in those rounds as he was doing in the rounds prior to, but he was hurting him. The move he KO'd him with (throwing the uppercut to draw Tito's left hook and land a right hand of his own) was a move he did earlier in the fight, and Trinidad fell for it the same way.
I remember saying the same thing when I saw it the second time around. Hopkins threw a lazy uppercut just to get Tito to throw the left hook and then came with the right cross but Tito wasn't weak enough to fall the first time. The one in the 12th round was a jaw cracker though but even then Hopkins pushed Tito down. The fight was over at that point anyway because if Tito didn't fall on his own the follow up would of put him down.
No doubt Hopkins did more damage to Tito - he KO'd him. But Tito never once backed down from him, kept taking the fight to him, all along you (and he for that matter) thought he might have a puncher's chance...
Against Winky he was so thoroughly beaten, everyone (including himself) knew he had no chance by round 6. It was sad in a way, actually...
To even suggest that the Hopkins fight against Trinidad was close up until the KO is foolish. The most rounds you can give Trinidad in the Hopkins fight is round 1, if you ask me. From round 8 to 12 Hopkins laid a pure beating on Tito. Not only was he outscoring him in those rounds as he was doing in the rounds prior to, but he was hurting him. The move he KO'd him with (throwing the uppercut to draw Tito's left hook and land a right hand of his own) was a move he did earlier in the fight, and Trinidad fell for it the same way.
definitely hopkins did more damage to tito:
first BH played his own style with close to perfection
second BH went slugfest (tito's style) with tito, and still dominated his opponent
third BH scored a KO
winky never did the second and third
Hopkins arguably lost the first round because Tito was aggressive...I think round 6 Tito was aggressive again and some gave him that round out of pitty like the first, but his aggression was not effective...it was more so "oh Tito is finally being able to do something even though Hopkins is letting him! lets just give him the round even though Hopkins did the damage when they traded! ya know, out of pity for the kid..."
Winky beat Tito with the jab but b.hop laid a beating on him, both fights were very different just two different ways of how Tito can be defeated. Hopkins no doubt is the more dominent fighter.
I give Hops full props for the Tito win. But you say he sytematically broke him down through "each round"? This can be understood more than one way, I suppose, but recall that Tito won some rounds. I guess you mean that Tito paid a big price to win those rounds? Otherwise, at the time of the KO, Hopkins was not fighting a shut-out like Winky.
I didn't have Tito winning any rounds against Hopkins. I couldn't even give Tito a round and I'm a big Tito fan.
Hopkins stopped Tito Wright did not. Stoppages in my mind count for alot more than descision wins. Even if they are near shutout descision wins. Especially a stoppage that comes after you won nearly every round. Hopkins stopped Tito and also won almost every round. Hopkins.........
Interesting, really. I generally feel the same way about stoppages, but the stoppoge also came in the final round. Correct Hops was ahead on rounds, but he did not keep Tito off his game like Winky.
Both Hops and Winky have retired Tito. Those combine loses will ensure he will not return. I don't think that Tito would have retired in 2001 if it had been Winky that had beaten him, so that KO definitely meant something to Tito also.
Hopkins stopped Tito Wright did not. Stoppages in my mind count for alot more than descision wins. Even if they are near shutout descision wins. Especially a stoppage that comes after you won nearly every round. Hopkins stopped Tito and also won almost every round. Hopkins.........winner
Hopkins not only dominated Tito, he systematically broke him down through each round mentally & especially physically. Then to top it off he KO'ed him to punctuate his dominance. Winky shut him out & controlled him, but didn't do what Hopkins did to him.
I give Hops full props for the Tito win. But you say he sytematically broke him down through "each round"? This can be understood more than one way, I suppose, but recall that Tito won some rounds. I guess you mean that Tito paid a big price to win those rounds? Otherwise, at the time of the KO, Hopkins was not fighting a shut-out like Winky.
Hopkins not only dominated Tito, he systematically broke him down through each round mentally & especially physically. Then to top it off he KO'ed him to punctuate his dominance. Winky shut him out & controlled him, but didn't do what Hopkins did to him.
I kinda got the feeling that Winky could have finished anytime he wanted but didn't. Mind you he does that in a lot of his fights!
He know's he's winning it, and doesn't bother taking the risk to finish the job.
You could very well be right. It's tough to take a guy out with a jab, especially when your true comfort zone is when you're wearing your gloves as "ear muffs".
Winky made Tito look very bad.
Hopkins was actually in a fight and had lost a few rounds due to Tito being agressive.
Sure Hops' KO was impressive and showed how badly he had been wearing-down Tito, but Tito still had a chance against Hops, unlike Winky.
they both had fun with Tito
Winky won on his jab
Hopkins won on outmanning Tito
Winky's win was basically like holding off a 3rd grader with your index finger as he tries and tries to swing at you and you kick him in the shin a few times before you let him go and run home to his mommy...
Hopkins' win was more like tripping that 3rd grader and slapping him upside the head for a few minutes before pushing him down the schoolyard hill into the stream and throwing his books and papers at him in the water
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