Who is the better fighter, who has the better legacy...Tito or Oscar?

Oscar has a more complete fighting style. He is a boxer who can punch. You can't really say Trinidad can box unless he is fighting someone with no defense like Mayorga. Trinidad loves to get into a puncher's brawl with every opponent and he could probably beat many fighters that way except great boxers. All of Trinidad's losses have been lopsided and against skillful boxers. You can't really say that about Oscar even getting KTFO by Hop's he was still in the fight up until then. Both loses to SSM were close and the Trinidad loss was a close fight he should have won. Even the Sturm fight in which I think Oscar lost was a close fight.

Oscar De La Hoya, without doubt.

Oscar De la Hoya baby! Hes the best P4P boxer in the past ten years talent wise. The only thing that hurts his legacy is the 2 robberies (Tito,Mosely2) and the 160 stint, but everybody knows he shouldnt have moved up that high, but hes got that heart of a champ so he had to. And plus......hes the Golden Boy what else do I gotta say!

I can't really say... I'd give it to DLH since he ain't one dimensional..

Oscar De La Hoya

Trinidad by a mile. I don't think it's even close to be honest.

I think Oscars is, but its funny how strikingly similar their path to fame is... They both beat their countries legends when they were old, Tito beat camacho, Oscar beat chavez. They both sorta re-launched their career by beating skill limited tough guys and made them fight past their real weights. Tito Mayorga, Oscar Gatti. both beat old drug damaged whitaker, and didnt look good doing it. Both had some trouble with Vargas before stopping him and both got stopped against hopkins. Hi, very good observation! I think that both are great and did the best of them and brought glory to their people.

Oscar did way better against Hopkins than what Tito did. Oscar is the only fighter to have won more than 4 rounds against B-Hop in 7 years. When he fought Tito, tito olny had one round on the scorcards. I think great fighters have a difning moment in their careers which makes them great like Ali with Foreman, Foreman vs Moore, Ray Robinson vs. Jake lamotta. I think Oscar's shinning moments came against Vargas where he KO a dangerious and bigger guy, and against Quartey where it was a close fight and Oscar came in the 12th round and knocked him down and threw like a millions punches (i thought it was the greatest moment evr) I also think his wins agianst Mosley II was one of his best performances in his career. He completly outboxed Mosley. Also the Tito fight where he won by a wide margin. Tito's shinning moments have come against William Joppy (journeyman) and against Mayorga ( a welterweight). Camacho was never a great fighter and Pernell was 35 when he fought Tito. Pernell also Tested positive for cocain in his previous fight. He also lost his last 4 fights. You might make a argument when he fought Vargas, but he was bigger and more stronger than Vargas as well as the favorite. Vargas was a real young fighter at the time (22years old) David reid ony had 14 fights when he faced Tito and his toughest fight before that was against Kevin Kelley. I think Trinidads greatest win cam against Yory Boy Campas

it is my opinion that dlh got the decisions in the quartey fight and in the whitaker fight as is also my opinion tito has a better legacy so i must be puertorican ?? your opinion is that dlh has the better legacy so you must be mexican ?? and anyone that likes hopkins must be black ??? . this is the most ignorant thing people say on these post . Forgive me for being so damn racist, by the way Im a plain jane white boy who will phrase thngs differntly the second time around with you, I don't like offending people, especiall people that are wiser than me. Let me get this straight, you think Ike Quartey beat Oscar, you think Pernell Whitaker beat Oscar and you think Felix Sturm beat Oscar...I think you are 1 for 3... And I gurantee you if Ike Quartey knocked Oscar down in two different rounds and almost stopped him in the 12th and Oscar got the decision you would be citing all of this and going crazy to boot...this all happened but it was done by Oscar not against Oscar... Again a gift decision for the whitaker and quartey fights...that is a fucking joke, watch the fights damn it....man you must be polish...

Your crazy...Oscar got gift decisions against Whitaker and Quartey??? Whitaker fought like a puss, Oscar easily won that fight, I know it is popular to say that he got a questionable decision but if you watch the fight again you will realize that the real travesty would have been if Sweat Pea got the nod. Quartey got knocked down twice in the fight with Oscar, imagine Ike knocking down Oscar twice and dominating the 12th...too me the fight was on the table in the last round and Oscar went out an blew away Ike, he easily had the best round of the fight and you say he got a gift? you must be puerto rican ? As for his fight with Sturm, your right it was a gift, I thought he lost that fight in the 12th the same round that all of the judges gave to the golden boy... Sturm was a real luck out for Oscar but his victories against Pernell and Ike are hardly gifts, go back and watch those fights again and you will realize that the word "gift" is a fucking joke. Love Scap it is my opinion that dlh got the decisions in the quartey fight and in the whitaker fight as is also my opinion tito has a better legacy so i must be puertorican ?? your opinion is that dlh has the better legacy so you must be mexican ?? and anyone that likes hopkins must be black ??? . this is the most ignorant thing people say on these post .

Oscar dela hoya is by far the better fighter and the one with a better legacy, he deserves to be in the hall of fame, Tito doesn't now, he might still do if he doesnot retire and fights some good fights, but as far as the question of legacy goes, Oscar has built a great one, he has taken defeats and emerged better after them, he is an all time great.

dlh and tito are both great fighters and will both be hall of famers. but tito has a better legacy than dlh . alot of people say that oscar really beat tito if you want to look at it that way oscar really lost to whitaker,quartey,and sturm he got gift decisions in all those fights . tito has fought better opposition and never ducked anybody..dlh only fought quartey because he had a 18 month layoff also he always said that he would not fight vargas but after tito gave him a beating he decides to fight him ,vargas was all ready shot when he fought dlh .out of the 2 fighters tito is the most devastating tito ended careers reid,vargas,joppy, were never the same after fighting tito .trinidad also had a better career than dlh at 154 beating reid and vargas and at 160 he destroyed joppy and mayorga .. yes tito got dominated by hopkins and winky at 160 but those guys are top 5 p4p oscar got the gift against sturm and did worst against hopkins than tito .based on this tito has a bigger legacy .. Your crazy...Oscar got gift decisions against Whitaker and Quartey??? Whitaker fought like a puss, Oscar easily won that fight, I know it is popular to say that he got a questionable decision but if you watch the fight again you will realize that the real travesty would have been if Sweat Pea got the nod. Quartey got knocked down twice in the fight with Oscar, imagine Ike knocking down Oscar twice and dominating the 12th...too me the fight was on the table in the last round and Oscar went out an blew away Ike, he easily had the best round of the fight and you say he got a gift? You must be Puerto Rican? As for his fight with Sturm, your right it was a gift, I thought he lost that fight in the 12th the same round that all of the judges gave to the golden boy... Sturm was a real luck out for Oscar but his victories against Pernell and Ike are hardly gifts, go back and watch those fights again and you will realize that the word "gift" is a fucking joke. Love Scap

dlh and tito are both great fighters and will both be hall of famers. but tito has a better legacy than dlh . alot of people say that oscar really beat tito if you want to look at it that way oscar really lost to whitaker,quartey,and sturm he got gift decisions in all those fights . tito has fought better opposition and never ducked anybody..dlh only fought quartey because he had a 18 month layoff also he always said that he would not fight vargas but after tito gave him a beating he decides to fight him ,vargas was all ready shot when he fought dlh .out of the 2 fighters tito is the most devastating tito ended careers reid,vargas,joppy, were never the same after fighting tito .trinidad also had a better career than dlh at 154 beating reid and vargas and at 160 he destroyed joppy and mayorga .. yes tito got dominated by hopkins and winky at 160 but those guys are top 5 p4p oscar got the gift against sturm and did worst against hopkins than tito .based on this tito has a bigger legacy ..

Trinidad loses to awesome boxers like Hopkins and Wright and some start to say that he was overrated and a class below DLH, who clearly lost to Mosley(who is not as good as Hopkins or Wright) and really lost to Sturm. I think it's obvious that although Sturm is very talented and has a good style, he is not legendary material yet.

Mike Tyson, Trinidad, Roy Jones Jr, Oscar De La Hoya, and the Prince are the best of this era, you stop right at Trinidad for whatever reason, but it doesnt really matter cause enough people have common sense over you, even Roy was planing on having a Mega fight with Trinidad, good list tho I agree, just left out Tito thats all. common sense? i think that is indeed what you are lacking with very questionable choices and absences. mike tyson maybe but he fell off in 92 and lost to every great fighter he faced. the prince has been running scared since barrera handled him so his inclusion into the best of this era is just wrong. imo p4p tito doesnt belong with the fighters in my list, i believe he losses to each fighter p4p because he cannot adapt to the styles of boxers. he was a great fighter and had great power in both hands but imo he was just a cut below those guys.

I would have to say oscar only because I think he thinks for himself alot more in the ring and it better able to adapt his style until tito, for christsakes just kept moving left all damn night long. I really don't think that asnwered the question but I just wante to say it. They both have a great legacy and I only see DLH ahead by a slight margin, he could even have a greater legacy had more mexicans embraced him like they did for chavez but after he beat him I don't see that happening.

They are just two of the best fighters of our era... Hey Boruk, I think this statement says it all... First off let me say that you are a very good poster and there is nothing wrong with loyalty, too me it is one of the most important things a man can have, yeah loyalty can sometimes blind people, hell it blinds everyone at different moments but in a wierd way that is one of the special things that being loyal will do to someone. Your buddy may be dead wrong in a bar and get jumped and if you are truly loyal then you will jump in and go to war, not because what your buddy was doing was right but because of his "body of work" as your friend...a fighter, or a sports team is no different, you protect Tito because he has given you countless memories that have enhanced your life as well as your countries...sticking by him is what being loyal is all about and I would expect nothing less from you. Now, your original statment above too me is very telling. Obviously you are probably still in a bit of shock about last saturday but reality is also starting to creep in with you-which is what I sense in your statement. I bet if we would have had this conversation a year ago or even a couple of weeks ago there is no way in fucking hell that you would quietly say that Oscar and Tito are two of the best fighters of their era...sure you believe that but had this thread have played out like it has a week ago you would be soley in Tito's corner giving arguments that would better explain why Felix is better than Oscar...there is no way you would have gone with a tie as your statement indicates. Now that saturday has played out the way it has even the most diehard Tito fans that consider themselves true boxing fans cannot really credibly back up their man anymore in terms of a comparison to a guy like Hoya, sure you can always back him up but in your heart you know your wrong. I feel for you, it sucks when you love a fighter or a team or a person so much and then they blow up, but that is exactly what Tito did and it was not the first time and if he fights again it will not be the last...Every fighter just about loses but in Trinidad's two defeats he has been completely humiliated...Against Nard and Winky he without a shadow of a doubt did not belong in that ring and when we are talking about great fighters in the future these performances will stand out and 9 times out of 10 eliminate Tito from winning any mythical matchups that everyone likes to imagine... you can't lose every round too Winky without some repercussions, you can easily make a case that he did not clearly win one round against NArd, against Oscar it appeared to be A vs. B, fortunately for Tito Oscar's fight plan turned into a flight plan and he was able to bask in that fools glory for a lot of years-Like I said in an earlier post Oscar deserves roylaties for what he showed the A fighters of the world that would one day face off with Felix. So, a week ago you would have fought for Tito with every piece of knowledge you had in you, a week ago Tito was better in your mind than Oscar, but...today you are content with saying that "They are just two of the best fighters of our era..." Your a loyal dude and that is awesome I respect you for it but the statement above might as well read Oscar is above Tito. Hey Boruk, Cotto is a tough mother fucker and I think he can surpass Tito, obviously he has a long long way to go before that happens but we will all have a real good time talking shit as he tries to make a climb to the top for you and all of the people in the island.

Did DLH clearly beat Whitaker and Quartey? No argument? I can recognize that Trinidad has limitations. Why can't you do the same with DLH? Last time I saw, he was getting a gift decision against Sturm and making his best effort to get an Academy Award nomination in his fight with Hopkins. There is a difference between a close win and a gift. Sure you can say he lost to Sturm, but did he lose 12 rounds to 0? No

Well stop imagining, Trinidad would do better than Chavez, too big, and he could box at Welterweight too, he would of still won, and De La Hoya stood well with him in his prime, he is not as invinceable as you think. there is no way tito beats a prime whitiker, did you see the way tito looks against boxers? prime whitiker makes tito look foolish. he would be the slickest boxer tito ever fought and imo he was better than dlh as well. you couldnt possibly tell me tito would outbox whitaker . and whitaker would land at will against tito's lack of defense. imo the best fighters of our era are: roy jones jr, bernard hopkins, james toney, evander holyfield, lennox lewis, pernell whitaker and oscar de la hoya.

He just fought Mayorga. How many fights did Tito have in the two years before DLH? How many in the two years before Hopkins? Did DLH clearly beat Whitaker and Quartey? No argument? I can recognize that Trinidad has limitations. Why can't you do the same with DLH? Last time I saw, he was getting a gift decision against Sturm and making his best effort to get an Academy Award nomination in his fight with Hopkins.