Two points will now be deducted in Nevada when a fighter intentionally spits out a mouthpiece after a knockdown to buy extra time.
Good rule that should have a fighter think twice about it. Though if a fighter is far behind by the 8th or 9th round, they may not give two craps about winning on the cards and may do it for a knockout.
Or, let those that cheat take their ko when it's given to them.
or give boxing foul shots. If you done a low blow or headbutt, let the other doo get a free punch. Dont matta be it an uppercut or a cross. One free shot and fo sho sum bodies will hit the flo. :cool:
Thats dumb. that only gives more time.. they should make him fight without it untill there is a real stop in the action not caused by a KD.
True...maybe take the pts. after the round instead of in the middle of it. The judges would have to be notified until they got used to that system. But like Bomber said, if they spit it out twice they should stop the fight..that signals giving up in alot of cases.
If he hadnt spit it out, then got knocked out, the fight wouldnt have had this hollywood ending that people have been raving about. It woudl have just been another action packed fight with a knockout. Instead, we get that great twist in the end. This of course is coming from someone who didnt really care who won. So for me, it was just a great fight with a surprise, twist , of an ending. I actually liked it this way.
Although this is a step in the right direction, more needs to be done. The whole issue can easily be solved by making the fighter fight without his mouthpiece if he decideds to spit it out.
I prefer your options too, ans sometimes it happens, when the referee doesn't see the mouthpiece fly.
the simple solution is not to put it back in after a KD... the rule is to wait for a lull in the action to re-insert the mouthpiece.... after a knockdown, there is definately no lull in the action... fighters will stop taking it out, if they know the ref isn't going to put it back in...
My friend had this idea so I can't take credit for it. The ref has two mouthguards one in each shirt pocket one for the red corner the other for the blue corner. The fighters provide the mouthguard and the ref handles putting it in. No walking to the corner to have the trainer put it in. He also suggested that action should not be stopped to deduct a point when a foul is not a time issue for the person fouled (ie spitting out mouthguard) and only stopped to give the fouled person a rest. The ref would let the crowd and the judges know between rounds. I agree with both positions.
This a good idea but then there will shit pulled off with guys saying the ref druged me or put tabasco sauce on the mouth piece or some shit. I think a guy should be disqualified if he does it twice. FIrst one let him slide but as soon as he does it again its over,this is a sign of quiting and should be stopped.
def a good rule
but what they should do also
is have the ref carry around a lil bottle of water with him
so when the moutpiece comes out
he rinses it off and puts it right back in
not allowing the corners to buy more time
What Corrales did that night was unacceptable. I will never forgive him for that.
The first time he did it was acceptable, because the mouthpiece looked like it was on it's way out anyway and he kind of just pushed it out, but after seeing him put his glove to his mouth and then take it out and throw it on the floor I was shocked.
Honestly at that point the fight should of been over. That in my eyes means im done I quit.
Bah nonsense...why should that type of fight tactic delay be any worse than excessive holding, intentional headbutting, low blows, bad wraps ...etc.
Headbutting is a dangerous foul, but I've never heard of it being done to buy time. Excessive holding is done for different reasons too; from exhaustion, from needing to clear the head, etc. Hand raps? How is that used to buy time? :confused:
When one fighter would have clearly lost a fight had he not been given extra time to clean and replace a mouthpiece then it's serious enough to do something about it I think.
Two points will now be deducted in Nevada when a fighter intentionally spits out a mouthpiece after a knockdown to buy extra time.
Good rule that should have a fighter think twice about it. Though if a fighter is far behind by the 8th or 9th round, they may not give two craps about winning on the cards and may do it for a knockout.
Okay, great..then what? What if he continues to spit it out or take it out? How many times should they be allowed to 'buy time' that way before being DQ'ed? :confused: All of that was bad enough, but then Diego said on FNF that wasnt why he did it, and that he really did drop it the second time (yeah, right) etc...which pissed me off. Didnt expect much else from him really.
What Corrales did that night was unacceptable. I will never forgive him for that.
The first time he did it was acceptable, because the mouthpiece looked like it was on it's way out anyway and he kind of just pushed it out, but after seeing him put his glove to his mouth and then take it out and throw it on the floor I was shocked.
My friend had this idea so I can't take credit for it. The ref has two mouthguards one in each shirt pocket one for the red corner the other for the blue corner. The fighters provide the mouthguard and the ref handles putting it in. No walking to the corner to have the trainer put it in. He also suggested that action should not be stopped to deduct a point when a foul is not a time issue for the person fouled (ie spitting out mouthguard) and only stopped to give the fouled person a rest. The ref would let the crowd and the judges know between rounds. I agree with both positions.
i think 2 points is fair. this needs to be nipped in the bud as we english say, before everyone starts to do it. it's a good old pro's trick but it's open to exploitation.
I think taking points is a good rule. Think about it, If the fighter is hurt he can be knocked out easier. The only reason Corrales went down the second time was because he was still hurt from the first Knockdown, after he bought time. Imagine if he had just gotten up and Castillo could have planted one on him, it would have been over.
they coulda deducted 10 points from corrales if they wanted he knocked out JLC so it didnt matter!!!, and he got 20 secs not 30 u guys need to count right