Winky, Chico and the Pound for Pound list

Arguably the two most overrated fighters in their respective divisions. And that is about it. You had Rafael ranked higher than Barrera.....and that is whack. Ayala Tapia Morales Hamed Kelley Sanchez Salazar Jimmenez and the list goes on for the kingpin's opposition. Plus he would knock R.Marquez out in 2 rounds flat. Dont give me names, give me great fights. All most all of those guys were way past there prime when MAB beat them. Ayala, Tapia, Kelley. Man please. All those guys were just names who now lose on a regular basis

"ahead of chico because in a rematch that doesnt happen again" since when were lb/lb lists determined from what MIGHT happen in the future?

here is my list: 1. floyd mayweather....most skills in boxing 2. bernard hopkins 3. kostya tszyu 4. winky wright.... if ZOO stays inactive, wright leapfrogs him 5. MAB... redeamed himself against morales 6. EM...big win over manny 7. zab SUPER judah...undisputed 8. jose luis castillo...ahead of chico because in a rematch that doesnt happen again 9. diego corrales....was getting beaten by jlc before big comeback 10. Glen Johnson... has wins over antonio tarver and roy jones close: cory spinks, joel cassamayor, PACMAN, JMM, antonio tarver, rafeal marquez and antonio margarito. actually i beilve that corrales had a 1 point lead on 2 scorecards coming into the 10th round.

here is my list: 1. floyd mayweather....most skills in boxing 2. bernard hopkins 3. kostya tszyu 4. winky wright.... if ZOO stays inactive, wright leapfrogs him 5. MAB... redeamed himself against morales 6. EM...big win over manny 7. zab SUPER judah...undisputed 8. jose luis castillo...ahead of chico because in a rematch that doesnt happen again 9. diego corrales....was getting beaten by jlc before big comeback 10. Glen Johnson... has wins over antonio tarver and roy jones close: cory spinks, joel cassamayor, PACMAN, JMM, antonio tarver, rafeal marquez and antonio margarito.

1. The Executioner - 20 def. of middleweight championship. hasn't lost in 10 years. Ko'd Trinidad when thought to be invincible. 2. Floyd Mayweathter- Undefeated. 130 and 135 champ. Fastest hands in the game. Beat rugged Castillio 2x. Dominated Corrales 3. Kostya Tszyu- Really undisputed at 140. 1 loss last millenium. A machine who is always ready with crushing power. Quickness underestimated. Ko'd Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell.....quick 4. Winky Wright---Hasn't lost in over 5 years. Should be nicknamed "Groundhogs's Day" cuz he does the same thing over and over and dominates conventionally. Holds 2 wins over Sugar Shane Mosely and Shutout Tito Trinidad. 5. Chico Corrales--130 and 135 champ. Currently on best run in boxing with consective victories (convincing) over Casamayor,Freitas, and Castillio. Loss to No.2 on list is the his only legitamate or un-revenged defeat. 6. Vitali Klitscho--Heavyweight champ stands aroud 6'7. Good power quick hands. Has proven he can 'take it'...something rare in hvwyt.div. Sent LL into retirement. 7.a) Marco Antonio Barrera-great boxer puncher with wins over Naseem Hamed, Erik Moreles(2wice), and Kennedy Mckinney(great fight plug). b) Erik Morales-same as above with close victories over No. 7.a and 7.c on list. c) Manny Pacquio- 'Fists of Fury' Holds ko victory over "The Baby-Faced Assasin" or 7.a on list and a controversial loss to "El Terrible" or 7.b on list. d) Juan Manuel Marquez- Featherweight champ. that got up off the canvas for a third time in round to beat Manny Pacquio over the next 11 rounds earning a controversial draw.............whew 8. Rafeal Marquez- Bantamweight king destroyed Mark 'Too Sharp' Johnson and Tim Austin. No real competion in his own division stall in his rise to #4# glory. 9.a) Glenn Johnson- Lt. Hvwyt. Champ with devasting win over former #4# king Roy Jones Jr.. Also holds controversial dec. win over Antonio Tarver. b) Antonio Tarver- Former Lt.Hvwyt. Champ who 1st dethroned Roy Jones Jr. as #4# king with a 2nd round ko. ala Canibus....... Every loss but to Glenn Johnson has been avenged with a ko. Glenn Johnson rematch on the horizon. 10)Zab Judah. 147 Champ. Beat the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man.......... The 2nd fastest hands in the game with explosive power. Only un-avenged loss was to No. 3 on list. Experts say he's still getting better.

1. James Toney - beat a Heaveyweight champ, ultimate achivement 2. Bernard Hopkins - beat Trinidad, undisputed 3. Mayweather 4. Winky Wright - beat Trinidad, undisputed 5. Morales 6. Tszyu 7. Barrera 8. Zab Judah 9. Diego Corrales 10. Trinidad - 1 more loss would knock him off, still dangerous You still have Tito p4p hahaha, my godman how much of a nuthugger are you.

that is good list id switch zoo and JLC around. still think B-hop is 1 cause he has been around longer. Yeah he has. And that these lists are pretty much open for debate because they are based on aesthetics in approval of fighter's resumes, as well as recent competition faced. Those are the two criteria for these lists IMO. If I had it my way....and would simply pick who I thought could beat anyone else...Jeff Lacy would be damn near the top of my list because he is a damn force. But that would look really stupid. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

then screw it. 1. Mayweather 2. Nard 3. Barrera 4. Winky 5. Morales 6. Corrales 7. Castillo 8. Tszyu 9. Pacquiao 10. Juan Manuel Marquez Judah a close 11th tied with Kassim Ouma. that is good list id switch zoo and JLC around. still think B-hop is 1 cause he has been around longer.

If I had to make one of these whack lists. then screw it. 1. Mayweather 2. Nard 3. Barrera 4. Winky 5. Morales 6. Corrales 7. Castillo 8. Tszyu 9. Pacquiao 10. Juan Manuel Marquez Judah a close 11th tied with Kassim Ouma. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Are you for real? He beat Too Sharp twice, once by KO and KO Tim Austin. Arguably the two most overrated fighters in their respective divisions. And that is about it. You had Rafael ranked higher than Barrera.....and that is whack. Ayala Tapia Morales Hamed Kelley Sanchez Salazar Jimmenez and the list goes on for the kingpin's opposition. Plus he would knock R.Marquez out in 2 rounds flat. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

1.Hopkins 2.Morales 3.Tsyzu 4.Barrera 5.Wright 6.Corrales 7.J.M.Marquez 8.Castillo 9.Mayweather 10.Pacquiao 11.Trinidad 12.R.Marquez 13.Larios 14.Klitschko 15.Tarver

1. Hopkins 2. Barrera 3. Morales 4. Winky 5. Corrales 6. Mayweather 7. Manny pacq 8. Kostya Tszyu 9. Jose Louis Castillo 10.Oscar Larios 11.R Marquez

haha. He beat the crap out of Morales.....who beat Pac's ass. He also won his last fight by brutal knockout against a decent contender. If you dont have M.A.B. on a P4P list......you are smokin. Plain and Simple. Give me a break. Rafael Marquez? LOL. come on....who has he beat? yup. well said. I dont care what anyone says....or how ratings work. He is a top 5 fighter in the sport, and there is no room for him to be replaced. He beat Morales but your saying that just completely erases what happened to him a couple of fights ago and all the other washed up scrubs he has been fighting? Also who has Marquez fought? Are you for real? He beat Too Sharp twice, once by KO and KO Tim Austin.

what the fk is mayweather doing way up there. the floydboy/corrales fight was bogus. corrales was mentally beat before the fight started. since i feel a younger hungryer bigger speedster taylor is going to beat hopkins i'm going to include my forsite in my #f# list. 1. taylor 2. winky 3. hopkins 4. tszyu 5. corrales 6. prettyboybutthead 7. castillo 8. marquez 9. barrera 10.judah I dont like putting guys up there before something happeneds but I do pick Taylor to beat X. However he still wouldnt be #1 because I dont think this is a prime X

As much as i enjoyed Castillo-Corrales,no way castillo deserves to be atop EM or MAB,and winkly proved his point,I'll give him his due,but goddamn is he a boring fighter,him and hop:great,but boring as sh*t.I dont know if winky should be that high tho,if you used that lgoic that youd keep EM em down cause he loast a previous fight to a guy(MAB) that got tkod,i can say winky fought a guy who got KO'ed,had a long lay off and has only had one tune up fight since then,see why that isnt exactly fair?My opinion anyways,let me re-arrange your list,my list would look like this: 1)Hopkins(Ditto) 2)Mayweather(Ditto) 3)Tszyu(Ditto) 4)Chico(More rounded than winky i think) 5)Winky(Its only his first Big win) 6)Morales(I think his Perofmance against Pac Warrants it) 7)MAB,Pac(Unfinished Biz?) 8)R.Marquez(Just Earned it) 9)Zab(sorry Zab,you aint Impressed me yet.) 10)Castillo(Good,kind of.But has earned it) I dont get why you put toney on here either?He beat John Ruiz, man,thanks toney,but thats the only noteworthy thing apart from a steroids scandal that youve done In my book. What do you think? not a bad list, I can dig that. I still think Toney is impressive. you say that Holy anr Ruiz arent that impressive but I look at it like this is a #4# list and he started at middelweight so thats what makes it impressive. Ruiz has beat alot of good fighters

3) R. Marquez DLT makes a good point with. His comp demands top 10 p4p recognition. . Name 1 name opponent he has ever beat. Too Sharp? Austin? LOL. Those two are the most overrated fighters in their divisions. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

As much as i enjoyed Castillo-Corrales,no way castillo deserves to be atop EM or MAB,and winkly proved his point,I'll give him his due,but goddamn is he a boring fighter,him and hop:great,but boring as sh*t.I dont know if winky should be that high tho,if you used that lgoic that youd keep EM em down cause he loast a previous fight to a guy(MAB) that got tkod,i can say winky fought a guy who got KO'ed,had a long lay off and has only had one tune up fight since then,see why that isnt exactly fair?My opinion anyways,let me re-arrange your list,my list would look like this: 1)Hopkins(Ditto) 2)Mayweather(Ditto) 3)Tszyu(Ditto) 4)Chico(More rounded than winky i think) 5)Winky(Its only his first Big win) 6)Morales(I think his Perofmance against Pac Warrants it) 7)MAB,Pac(Unfinished Biz?) 8)R.Marquez(Just Earned it) 9)Zab(sorry Zab,you aint Impressed me yet.) 10)Castillo(Good,kind of.But has earned it) I dont get why you put toney on here either?He beat John Ruiz, man,thanks toney,but thats the only noteworthy thing apart from a steroids scandal that youve done In my book. What do you think? Your list seems fair but I wouldn't have Judah on there yet because I never thought Spinks was that great anyway. I agree on Toney. He's not even the best in his current division (or any of the others he's been in IMO) so you can't have him on there without having VK and arguably a couple other HWs above him. It is p4p and that fucker weighs 300.

I made a thread in March about how Im sick of everyone having MAB, Morales, and Pac Man being recycled at the top of the #4# debate no matter how many times they lose or how they lose just because there fighting eachother. I had it like this and everyone went crazy. How are you going to have Winky over them. I said give someone else a chance and dude has been fighting good fighters and hasnt lost in a long time. 1)Hopkins 2)Mayweather 3)Tszyu 4)Winky I also had Chico and Castillo 5 and 6 and everyone went crazy that I had them over them 3. Give these guys respect. Then I had it 7)R. Marquez 8)Zab 9)Toney 10)I had EM,MAB, and Pac all tied. I still have it the same. Here is my new list 1)Hopkins 2)Mayweather 3)Tszyu 4)Winky 5)Chico 6)Castillo 7)R.Marquez 8)Zab 9)Toney 10)the big 3 I didnt drop Toney because I still dont know the whole story and he still won. I dont like having the big 3 higher because Pac just lost his last fight and had a draw in his previous one, MAB was just dominated and TKO by Pac a couple of fights back and lost to EM, and EM who alot have high lost twice to MAB and had some other close fights like a barely win over a one armed Chaves which he might have lost if that wasnt the case. Give other guys a chance. There are alot of great fighters out there and they deserve to have there spot on the list. They have all fought great fighters and have big wins As much as i enjoyed Castillo-Corrales,no way castillo deserves to be atop EM or MAB,and winkly proved his point,I'll give him his due,but goddamn is he a boring fighter,him and hop:great,but boring as sh*t.I dont know if winky should be that high tho,if you used that lgoic that youd keep EM em down cause he loast a previous fight to a guy(MAB) that got tkod,i can say winky fought a guy who got KO'ed,had a long lay off and has only had one tune up fight since then,see why that isnt exactly fair?My opinion anyways,let me re-arrange your list,my list would look like this: 1)Hopkins(Ditto) 2)Mayweather(Ditto) 3)Tszyu(Ditto) 4)Chico(More rounded than winky i think) 5)Winky(Its only his first Big win) 6)Morales(I think his Perofmance against Pac Warrants it) 7)MAB,Pac(Unfinished Biz?) 8)R.Marquez(Just Earned it) 9)Zab(sorry Zab,you aint Impressed me yet.) 10)Castillo(Good,kind of.But has earned it) I dont get why you put toney on here either?He beat John Ruiz, man,thanks toney,but thats the only noteworthy thing apart from a steroids scandal that youve done In my book. What do you think?

hmm 1) Exaggeration is in love with you guys. Morales didn't kick Pac's ass anymore than Toney kicked Ruiz's ass. However, Morales' win is more impressive. 2) Toney beat Jirov a long time ago. That was a very good and big win. Since then he beat 3 guys who were all out of shape, old, are not that good to begin with, and sometimes a combonation of these factors. 3) R. Marquez DLT makes a good point with. His comp demands top 10 p4p recognition. 4) The top 5 gets pretty sketchy from 2-5. Winky, Floyd, Tszyu...none are far ahead of the others. 5) Pac, EM, and MAB should not be as low as 10 (if indeed we are lumping them all into one fighter). They all are considered very skillful, fight good fighters, and win the fights they're supposed to win. They all seem to be as skilled as Spinks, who Judah split a pair of fights with and yet ranks higher than all 3 on your list. If you caught flak for having them at 10, I say you just got what you deserved (but no one deserves anything too malicious). 6) Chico and Castillo deserve to be ahead of guys like Morales Judah, MAB, and Pac but below guys like Winky, Floyd, Tszyu, and Hopkins.

Just 2 fights ago he was dominated and TKO. If that happened to Floyd then you guys wouldnt put him on the list or Winky or the other guys. Stop recycling these guys. It wasnt too long ago when he lost to Morales and he has been fighting a bunch of old and washed up guys. Give me a break haha. He beat the crap out of Morales.....who beat Pac's ass. He also won his last fight by brutal knockout against a decent contender. If you dont have M.A.B. on a P4P list......you are smokin. Plain and Simple. Give me a break. Rafael Marquez? LOL. come on....who has he beat? He made up for that by beating Morales two fights later. And you well know that the Barrera that fought Pacquiao was not the same Barrera that beat Morales and Hamed. . yup. well said. I dont care what anyone says....or how ratings work. He is a top 5 fighter in the sport, and there is no room for him to be replaced. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!