Toney: Going with the doctor excuse.

heresay means nothing and holds no value. RJJ-Tested positive because of ripped fuel and nasal spray and ripped fuel at the time contained ephedra and MOST nasal sprays contain small amounts of steroids. Besides the steroid Roy tested positive for was not an Anabolic steroid. Klitschkos-Wlad never heard about it in my life. However, Vitali was/is very open to the subject and admits it in full detail and even dedicated a section about it in his book. Plus it was in the amateurs and he was suspended from the Olympics and he didnt throw a fuss about it he took it with great stride and proved he had integrity. He took the bad with the good. Vargas-Well everybody knows that story.

Vargas did. He blamed and fired his nutritionist. I never caught much of the Vargas scandal, I know he has come clean now though and has been for a while and he got a clean slate. It would probably be best for Toney as well, whether he was really juiced or not we will never know and can only go by the test results but if Toney keeps blaming other things and people then the people will not forget. However, if he just says hey I tried it because I was grossly out of shape and as you can see it didnt help me any with my body and I apologize lets move on. Then perhaps he would be cleared from the publics view as well. With the way everyone is pinpointing on certain factors except Toney himself will continously leave him scrutinized.

Snoopy-Those guys didnt deny it and put the blame on others.

Fuck man, everyone speculated that T was on the juice; instead of fat and jiggly he came in against Evander and Jirov pretty solid looking; like hard rubber or something. That one guy ... fuck you bout all blacks emulating him and taking roids. Where the hell you coming from with that? :crackhead

Ruiz is a bitch and a cheater. Toney is a liar and a cheater. Who fucking cares anymore? Boxing isn't worth watching. This might be my last post.

I doubt Toney took those drugs. You can test positive just by cutting to much weight and being dehyraded. And Pretender Ruiz is by far the biggest peice of crap of a heavyweight champ ever. I dont care if he wins he is a dirty, boring, and worthless motherfuck**. I hope he fight Vitali, I would actully wrote for Frankenstein so he can put Ruiz out for good.

vitali admitted just like toney did both said it was prescribed ..he said amatures more like till he became high profile..get the fuck outta here..tua got too big too fast its not possible he always lifted...u foreal ,wlad dont even look big nomore and not as cut ..but they all clean now tho..and watch bryd who always did it natural and stayed on the grind prolly benchin bout 375 now will be tough to beat..cept tyson and maybe toney Tua is samoan those guys have the best genetics if put to use otherwise they balloon up like the did. Samoans are big people and there shouldnt be ANYBODY that disagrees with that.

Vitali had taken them in the amateurs, Vitali was a man and admitted his mistake and moved on. That is why his wasnt blown out of proportion. Holyfield/Tua/Wlad/Mosley is all speculation. Possibly Mosley but please explain where you get Tua would even be on the roids?????? vitali admitted just like toney did both said it was prescribed ..he said amatures more like till he became high profile..get the fuck outta here..tua got too big too fast its not possible he always lifted...u foreal ,wlad dont even look big nomore and not as cut ..but they all clean now tho..and watch bryd who always did it natural and stayed on the grind prolly benchin bout 375 now will be tough to beat..cept tyson and maybe toney

Can Toney get out of this like Roy Jones did when he tested positive after his fight with Clinton Woods?

......I am by no means a fan of Toney but the whole thing sucks if it's true for four reasons. 1. It means that we haven't seen the last of Ruiz as champ. 2. I won't get to see Vitali kick the shit out of Toney eventually. 3. The Chris Byrd/Toney fight probably won't happen now. 4. As much as I dislike Toney, he at least brought a little more excitement to the heavyweight division.

yup. like I said, steroids didn't make RUIZ SUCKED THAT NIGHT! ruiz sucks all the time. And also steroids, didn't make Toney an amazing counterpuncher! One sided beating! one sided beating? if the ref hadnt called the knockdown in round 7,which he shouldnt have, the fight would have been a draw on two of the judges scorecards. thats if ruiz wins round 7

Just a note : certain steroids are perscribed for muscle injuries. I wonder....hmmm...Toney had a muscle tear. And for the bitch tits comment, JT has had that for a loooong time. Steroids are very commonly perscribed for muscle injuries as I said in an earlier post.

I'm one of the biggest TOney fans out there, I hope this is not true. I've been to all his fights since Jirov, no more if this is true...

I have lost alot of respect for Toney if this is true, i always though of him as a good guy for boxing, hopefully this is all a mixup and Don King slipped it into his burger :rolleyes:

It looks like Roy Jones Jr. isn't the only one with a steroids abuse problem. As far as boxing goes. I will never watch it again.

I just won't believe that toney would be dumb enough to take a drug that detectable, so I'll have to go with the training and dehdrating excuse with a side for his body naturally produced it.

- online encyclopedia somewhere Umm...See? His body naturally produced it. He's got a lot of mojo, that's all. ahhahahahahhahahahahhahah That's the best post you've ever made M.D. I love it. Toney is definitly the King of Mojo.

sorry but spinksjinx you know its bullshit for Ruiz to get that title back, period. He didn't deserve it back in the first place. And you want to talk about illegal, hugging is illegal. Yeah, Ruiz wasn't the love machine against Toney (which is why he didn't get knocked out), but he has been in the past against other fighters without being disqualified. Therefore HE CHEATED! Therefore, he doesn't deserve the belt anyhow. And I don't buy it for a second that steroids are that performance enhancing in boxing. They bulk you up too much, slow you donw. And I mean Toney had a real injury. It wouldn't be that surprising if a doctor gave him something and who the hell knew what Nandrolone was? I sure as hell wouldn't have known it was a steroid off the top of my head. And how long does that shit stay in your blood stream anyhow? I know there's a way they can detect some drugs even years after someone has taken it. Rules are rules. Nobody DQed Ruiz for hugging. Toeny took a banned substance. You would think with a sheriff in your avatar you would understand how law and order work (okay, a guy playing a sheriff on TV).

Where do people get the idea that Ruiz will be considered the "winner" of the fight? All that's going to happen is that the result will be nullified and it will be as if it never took place. Doesn't matter if Ruiz sucked, it wasn't a legitimate fight. If he lost a streetfight to some bruiser in an alley it wouldn't mean that he would lose his title to that guy either, unless the WBA sanctioned the bout.

The loser shouldn't retain his title, that's bullshit. The loser should be called the interim champ maybe and have to immediately fight the #1 contender to determine the new champ. Or in this case, he should have to fight the #13 ranked WBC contender...Mike Tyson. Why the winner cheated? Explain your reasoning? The WBA guidelines says that if a challenger tests positive and the champ negative then the champ retains the title. Which makes the most logical sense, why would the champion have to fight for a title he was cheated from?