How did Shane Mosley look?

i gotta disagree, estrada is at best a c class fighter. I should flame you, but I have a small amount of respect for you, since you changed your name from _the_rippuh to a real name, so I'll try to be as nice as possible while showing you reality. David Estrada is realistically between B+ and A-, but he's an A- in my opinion because the guy doesn't duck anyone. He reminds me of a real fighter. He faced and beat down Smith, and Sulymon...two undefeated fighters, back to back...no problem. Now I know Sulymon isn't really anything to brag about, and he fights ugly, but the man was undefeated. When interviewed before his fight with Chris Smith, a calm, collected Estrada responded to Teddy Atlas like a champion: Teddy: "So, David, nice to meet you, are you nervous about fighting Chris Smith, an undefeated prospect, next week?" David: "You know what..that doesn't impress me. The last guy I fought was undefeated too and I beat him...he's just another opponent for me to take down." the man has the attitude of a future champion, and his fights are never ugly. every single time you see Estrada fight, you'll notice it is not a boring fight at all. This is because this sonofabitch relentlessly brings the pain, and he does it properly, since Angelo Dundee, the man who was behind Ali in Ali's greatest years, is behind Estrada. I expect Estrada to come back from that loss and become champion.

You can't go back in time. Mosley is now in a position where he has to use what he has left the best he can to make up for what he's lost.

mosley needs more time and maybe just maybe he can get his shit together

mosley isn't the same like was said he doesn't put punches together anymore its like he think to much in the ring, he needs to use his reflexes like he use to, that's what happend to jones, hes relying on his eyes to much, they need to use the foot work and put punches together like they use to, that intimidated alot of fighters and made them confused and mosley could hit them all day from all angles! mosley and older fighter now they way he boxes

It certainly was not the performance you were hoping for if you were a big Sugar Shane guy but I think he did fine for his first fight back at 147. I thought David Estrada was going to give Shane hell, I even put a few bucks on David as well. The outcome was never really in doubt and if you can take away 1 thing from this fight that may be the difference maker for Shane was his body work. Estrada is as tough a fighter as you will find at 147 and he was in agony with Shane's body attack. In the second fight with Oscar, Shane seriously hurt Oscar too the body as well. Granted he did not recognize that Estrada was finished which he will definately see on tape but this is his bread and butter. Shane can probably hurt any fighter in the division too the body...this should be his focus! If he focuses to the body all of us cult fans no that others areas of his game will begin to open up.

I told everyone that there is no way that Shane and Oscar would come down at 147 and dominate. I said that they would have a hard time beating Zab, Margarito, Mayorga, Spinks, and the top guys from 140. Most disagreed and said that Oscar and Shane would dominate I didnt see the fight on ESPN so how did he look. Estrada is solid and it sounds like Shane did good but I think the young Shane wouldve ran through this guy and KO him in 5. He said in the pre fight interviews that even if he hurt him he would try to make the fight last longer, so was that the reason or did Shane just not look the same anymore? I wasnt Impressed,he pulled a solid UD,but when ever shane made a mistake,Estrada was there to pop him,and it made you wonder what kind of position shane would be in with a much bigger puncher, or with someone far more skilled.But this was shanes first fight back at that weight,and i think he'll look better in his next fight,i think he was testing the waters with estrada.

I think you guys are taking too much away from Estrada. I don't think any of the other top Welterweights would have stopped or beat him anymore convincinly. He's a tough durable guy, and Shane clearly outpointed him. i gotta disagree, estrada is at best a c class fighter. the old lightweight and welterweight shane would have tore estrada apart in less than 5 rounds. mosley use to be a monster on offence, he's just not showing that anymore

mosley still dont let those hands go like he used to. he doesnt really fire combos anymore. just one shot at a time. the pre-forrest version of mosley wouldve had estrada out of there in 6 rounds. he would hurt the guy with one shot, then pot shot him. no combos or anything. this guy has not been the same since vernon took off his head and he never will be . I think you guys are taking too much away from Estrada. I don't think any of the other top Welterweights would have stopped or beat him anymore convincinly. He's a tough durable guy, and Shane clearly outpointed him.

mosley still dont let those hands go like he used to. he doesnt really fire combos anymore. just one shot at a time. the pre-forrest version of mosley wouldve had estrada out of there in 6 rounds. he would hurt the guy with one shot, then pot shot him. no combos or anything. this guy has not been the same since vernon took off his head and he never will be .

shane did'nt look the same to me. i thought it made him look kinda bad that he could'nt finish a lower class fighter like estrada. when shane would attack like his old self he did really well and hurt estrada but he only showed it in spurts. his new trainer has got him playing alot more defence which i think takes away from shane's best abilities. he still has his skill but he just did'nt look very impressive the other night

Its also unlikely that we'll see Shanve vs Oscar 3, as Mosley mentioned he has an option to fight under Golden Boy Promotions now.

Mosley is in an interesting position. Too me, I think he's a great fighter that's been too ambitious. The qualities that made him such a tremendous fighter at 135, was the effect his shots had on smaller men. His speed and accuracy made him deadly. When he skipped right over 140 to take aim at Delahoya, it was good and bad. His first big win over Oscar brought him immediate fame and money. But then he's the man at Welterweight, and goes in trying to hurt welterweights like he did Super Lightweights. This caught up with him, and the way he fought at 147 and 154 against the best fighters there, and did it flat footed, was remarkable on its own. He never took the easy way out, and when at 154 with a title, pushed to fight Wright, who was largly avoided. He lost twice, but I thought he was respectable in the 2nd fight. That left him with a record of 1-4 with 1 no contest in his last 6 fights coming into the Estrada fight. I thought, that against a solid agressive hungry top ten Welterweight, Shane clearly won the majority of the rounds even though Estrada pushed on relentlessly. He (Estrada) made every round a difficult round to fight even though a lot of them were easy to score for Shane. Estrada is a durable guy and would give any welterweight a spirited and tough fight. Shane got ten rounds in and came away with a clear win. Definatly good for him. He reminded me in the fight (although he abandoned it too much) that he's one of the most violent body punchers in the sport. Shane will still be a tough fight for anyone at 147 if he puts it all together.

dlh at this point is better than mosley but mosley could still get a couple big money fights before its all said and done

Shane has not been the same to me since his 2nd fight with DLH and the 2 losses to Forrest..he seems to have gone away from the fast punching Shane I remmember in the 1st Oscar fight..his hands were like pistons. I dont know if he will ever be the same but I still think he can do very well at 147..But I dont think he could be DLH..I thought DLH won the 2nd fight..I think Shane with maybe 2 more fights at 147 can give Zab a run for his money.., I think he could beat Margarito, Spinx, and maybe Mayorga..not to sure..Mayorga got a lot of heart and if he catched Shane with one of those wild blows..its could be and early night for Shane.