Estrada is/was one of those opponents who would make any fighter look average because of his no surrender attitude and always coming forward throwing punches...he never wants to make it easy for you
Agreed. i think shane coulda knocked him out in round 4, matter of fact, the old shane does knocks him out in round 4. 40 wins 35 knocks outs? he used to be a sick finisher. one of the reasons i used to love watchin him, he was lookin to knock people out.
i think he coulda knocked him out, but in a weird way underestimates himself now, cuz he has had it rough for what, 3 years now?
during the fight i thought he showed some flashes but was disappointed he didn't go in for the kill.
but...
i taped the fight and watched it again today, and you know what? he did look good. he was sharp, moved well, and strong.
showed some slick d as well.
he just wasn't aggresive, which is expected after doing nothing but losing for a while.
so, here's my 2 cents, i expect him to do very well at welterweight. i can see him dominating zab, seriously (and i;m from brooklyn, so i love zab). when has he ever had a problem with anyone his size? anyone 5'9" and under at 147 he'll beat. margarito beats him, but i think that's about it at welterweight (forrest beats him if they ever fight again).
Estrada is/was one of those opponents who would make any fighter look average because of his no surrender attitude and always coming forward throwing punches...he never wants to make it easy for you
Shane didn't really look that good, but I think Estrada would have been tough for anyone to look good against last night. He was constantly pressuring Shane and not letting him get combos off by closing the distance and tying him up.
I thought the judges were crazy, too. 99-91 ? I had it 96-94 for Shane.
I think Shane would have a tough time at 147 against Judah, I think Shane is nearing the end of his career and doesn't have much left.
I didn't see it but it seems that HayeFan agrees with you as much as I hate to believe it. I can't wait to see it for myself.
I didn't say he'd never be anything again, I think he has a good chance against most of the welterweights out there.
Dominant fashion? Not really man, it was a VERY close fight, most rounds were tough to score IMO, although I did give it to Shane by a wide margin.
He is a shell of the fighter he once was. Speedsters, I guess age gets 'em all.
I think Shane would have a tough time at 147 against Judah, I think Shane is nearing the end of his career and doesn't have much left.
I spent the whole fight with my heart in my mouth, hoping that the looping shots Estrada was constantly catching him with, didn't eventually land flush. Shane was getting caught hard and often, and if it wasn't for Mosley's shots being the more effective (just!) it could have gone either way.
Where have his blistering combinations gone? Why didn't he throw more of his trademark killer body shots? Especially after they gave him his only real success in the fight?
He got the job done, just.
I'm a fan and I dont think I'm being too harsh because to call that a return to form would be a grave injustice to the Shane of old.
Ohh, I see. Thanks, I get cha now.
In what way did he look crappy? Sounds like he won comfortably against a decnt guy.
I spent the whole fight with my heart in my mouth, hoping that the looping shots Estrada was constantly catching him with, didn't eventually land flush. Shane was getting caught hard and often, and if it wasn't for Mosley's shots being the more effective (just!) it could have gone either way.
Where have his blistering combinations gone? Why didn't he throw more of his trademark killer body shots? Especially after they gave him his only real success in the fight?
He got the job done, just.
I'm a fan and I dont think I'm being too harsh because to call that a return to form would be a grave injustice to the Shane of old.
I didn't say he'd never be anything again, I think he has a good chance against most of the welterweights out there.
Dominant fashion? Not really man, it was a VERY close fight, most rounds were tough to score IMO, although I did give it to Shane by a wide margin.
He is a shell of the fighter he once was. Speedsters, I guess age gets 'em all.
In what way did he look crappy? Sounds like he won comfortably against a decnt guy.
well tonight doesn't mean he will NEVER be anything again..he just didn't look overly spectacular tonight...
but don't forget...it is hard to look awesome when you constantly take on tough opponents...
Forrest, ODLH, Winky, moves back down to face a top 10 tough fighter who just came off of a big win....
no Mosley didn't look great...but he got the win in dominant fashion vs a tough top 10 fighter...
I didn't say he'd never be anything again, I think he has a good chance against most of the welterweights out there.
Dominant fashion? Not really man, it was a VERY close fight, most rounds were tough to score IMO, although I did give it to Shane by a wide margin.
He is a shell of the fighter he once was. Speedsters, I guess age gets 'em all.
Mosley looked like crap ... to be honest. Why do I keep expecting him to 'return to form', time and time again. Damn.
well tonight doesn't mean he will NEVER be anything again..he just didn't look overly spectacular tonight...
but don't forget...it is hard to look awesome when you constantly take on tough opponents...
Forrest, ODLH, Winky, moves back down to face a top 10 tough fighter who just came off of a big win....
no Mosley didn't look great...but he got the win in dominant fashion vs a tough top 10 fighter...
***SPOILER********(duh)
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WINNER- Mosley!!!!!
Scoring was unaminous
97-93 98-91 99-91
hey man
reading this thread is obviously a spoiler so they cant expect to read it and not see it lol
Damn I was tryin not to see who won the fight with Wlad today but then it just pops RIGHT in my eyes
10-estrada trying to rush.mosley trying to go to work,estrada looking a little tired.still working.Gets caught by Mosley.Mosley goes to the body.last minute flurry by both.