Wladimir Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis!
One of the things that launched the Klitschko's in the U.S. was the fact that they were two brothers that love and respect eachother. Vitaly lost to Byrd, Wladimir defeated Byrd. Wladimir lost to Sanders, Vitaly beat Sanders. it would be great if Wladimir could get back and "restore the Klitschko honour" as Merchant says by beating Lewis. You thoughts please.
Grant at his very best was a mediocre fighter. Decent talent, average skill, decent punch, good heart, HORRIBLE chin. His career should have ended with the Golota fight but for whatever reason Golota spazzed out and Grant won a fight he was losing. If Golota had his head on straight, Grant would have never made it to Lewis.
Comparing him to Wlad is an insult. Wlad is more athletic, has better skills, hits much harder, and even his chin was better. Just look at the facts. Wlad was knocked out by Sanders who is a lightning fast powerhouse. If Sanders landed those same punches on Tyson it would have achieved the same result.
Grant on the other hand was nearly knocked out by Golota who was never a huge puncher, and stopped by McCline in less than a round. Grant had one of the worst chins the HW division has seen in the last 10 years.
My point was why you talking Wlad Vs Grant when Grant in particulary retired and Wlad is heading that direction. Vitali is heavyweight champion. Vitali is Tom cruise and Wlad is Dustin Hoffman in boxing!!
Ask explosivo. I don't know why he brought up Grant to begin with.
My point was why you talking Wlad Vs Grant when Grant in particulary retired and Wlad is heading that direction. Vitali is heavyweight champion. Vitali is Tom cruise and Wlad is Dustin Hoffman in boxing!!
Who gives a shit about Grant, you do, i don`t. Wlad is the issue here, not Grant. Wlad has a great chin, but the heart seems hit when the chin is exposed!
You were the one who quoted me when I was discussing Grant vs. Wlad with explosivo. Maybe if you don't give a shit, you probably shouldn't have quoted me.
Who gives a shit about Grant, you do, i don`t. Wlad is the issue here, not Grant. Wlad has a great chin, but the heart seems hit when the chin is exposed!
The only reason Wlad is top 15 is cos the heavyweight division is devoid of talent. Wlad`s skin has kept him in the top ten. Talent wise sure he`s good but when hit he hasn`t the heart to take it! HEART you say? Yes, Tua took Lewis`, Ibeuchei, and Moorer`s blows, Evander took everybodys shots in his prime, Wlad can not! Why? Vitali can, why not Wlad? Because he doesn`t like pain. He hasn`t the guts to take it. Corey Sanders?? Ross Pubeity?? Lamon Buster??? He didn`t lose to world class guys, he lost to crap! What happens with a Mike Tyson or lennox Lewis? Early KO, thats what happens. Wlad is not a top 15 heavy cos he hasn`t the heart. On effort alone many heavies deserve the respect more so than Wladimir. Wlad is a gutless, chinless coward and i am counting the days til he is vanquished and other heavies get what they deserve. Attention, money and a chance!
Fuck Wlad, chinless fuck!
I never said Wlad would beat Lewis, so I don't know what you are getting at. We are talking about Grant vs. Wlad here. Since Sanders Wlad's worst opponent has to Moli and he is still better than anyone who Grant has beaten since Lewis.
Apparently you also missed me saying that Wlad would lose to Lewis. The bottom line here is that Wlad is still a top 15 heavyweight, probably even top 10. Grant on the other hand is no where even close to being top 15, and he has been inactive for over a year now.
The only reason Wlad is top 15 is cos the heavyweight division is devoid of talent. Wlad`s skin has kept him in the top ten. Talent wise sure he`s good but when hit he hasn`t the heart to take it! HEART you say? Yes, Tua took Lewis`, Ibeuchei, and Moorer`s blows, Evander took everybodys shots in his prime, Wlad can not! Why? Vitali can, why not Wlad? Because he doesn`t like pain. He hasn`t the guts to take it. Corey Sanders?? Ross Pubeity?? Lamon Buster??? He didn`t lose to world class guys, he lost to crap! What happens with a Mike Tyson or lennox Lewis? Early KO, thats what happens. Wlad is not a top 15 heavy cos he hasn`t the heart. On effort alone many heavies deserve the respect more so than Wladimir. Wlad is a gutless, chinless coward and i am counting the days til he is vanquished and other heavies get what they deserve. Attention, money and a chance!
Fuck Wlad, chinless fuck!
Ahhh Neuraxis, I love your unfading support for Wlad, no matter how crummy a fighter he has become.
Yes Grant got his ass kicked by a couple of so-so fighters after Lennox destroyed him, but I still think he would put up a good fight against Wlad. I would pick Grant to win personally. I actually would like to see this fight. It looks like a pretty even match to me.
Apparently you also missed me saying that Wlad would lose to Lewis. The bottom line here is that Wlad is still a top 15 heavyweight, probably even top 10. Grant on the other hand is no where even close to being top 15, and he has been inactive for over a year now.
While I agree that Lewis would beat Wlad, you have to be nuts to think that Grant would currently beat Wlad. Apparently you missed McCline KD him and basically KO him with the first punch of their fight with a weak left hook. And apparently you missed Grant get destroyed by the big fraud Guinn. The next time you come up with an opinion like Grant KOing Wlad it would probably be better to keep it to yourself.
Ahhh Neuraxis, I love your unfading support for Wlad, no matter how crummy a fighter he has become.
Yes Grant got his ass kicked by a couple of so-so fighters after Lennox destroyed him, but I still think he would put up a good fight against Wlad. I would pick Grant to win personally. I actually would like to see this fight. It looks like a pretty even match to me.
Dude, I have to respectfully disagree. I think Lennox would embarass Wlad rather quickly, and I think Michael Grant would knock Wlad out too.
While I agree that Lewis would beat Wlad, you have to be nuts to think that Grant would currently beat Wlad. Apparently you missed McCline KD him and basically KO him with the first punch of their fight with a weak left hook. And apparently you missed Grant get destroyed by the big fraud Guinn. The next time you come up with an opinion like Grant KOing Wlad it would probably be better to keep it to yourself.
Keep the movies out of this. Lewis by nature always attacked if he saw a weakness. i believe he`ll destory Wlad in two rounds. Wlad should retire. I feel he is no more than journeyman being dressed up! Lewis should stay retired. Allow Klitscko to discovery his own identity. He will dominate for the next two years!
Wladimir is a real technical fighter, just like Lewis. And I dare to say that Wladimir's punches are more hurtfull than Lewis's punches! When I saw Oceans eleven, and the part where Lennox and Wladimir fight, I have to say that I'm with Wladimir. I think that people are being to hard on Wladimir. Just because you lose two fights (and one loss against Brewster that was very weird)Wladimir is a bum. That makes no sense. I really hope AND believe that Wladimir will be a world champion, and I would rather see Wladimir vs Lewis than Vitaly vs Lewis II.
Your talking about two guys fighting in a movie..A MOVIE!!! That means its not real!!! Wlad has 2 ko losses to 2 bums. Its Wlad's fault that both Sanders and Brewster are famous. We shouldnt even know who these guys are. If they didnt beat the great white hype Wlad, these two would still be nobodies. As far as Wlad's punches being more powerful than Lewis', Im not sure about that but of course its impossible to tell. I think Lewis would have ko'ed Brewster if he would have hit him with as many punches as Wlad did though. I dont think Wlad is a good technical fighter, but giving him the benefit of the doubt, that doesnt mean shit since he cant take a punch.
Wlad has a terrible chin no doubt. But he is so much more skilled than Grant that it's not funny. Since both Wlad and Lennox have bad chins, I would give Wlad a chance due to his offensive capabilities.
I disagree also...Lewis would kill Wlad. I agree that Wlad has a bad chin, but look at the shots that Lewis took against Vitali... he does not have a bad chin!! The 2 times he got KOed were by lucky bombs. i think most fighters would have got KOed by them. I dont like Lewis because he is an arrogant Ass, but he is a great fighter, and his chin is not as bad as everyone says it is.
Wladimir is a real technical fighter, just like Lewis. And I dare to say that Wladimir's punches are more hurtfull than Lewis's punches! When I saw Oceans eleven, and the part where Lennox and Wladimir fight, I have to say that I'm with Wladimir. I think that people are being to hard on Wladimir. Just because you lose two fights (and one loss against Brewster that was very weird)Wladimir is a bum. That makes no sense. I really hope AND believe that Wladimir will be a world champion, and I would rather see Wladimir vs Lewis than Vitaly vs Lewis II.
Wlad has a terrible chin no doubt. But he is so much more skilled than Grant that it's not funny. Since both Wlad and Lennox have bad chins, I would give Wlad a chance due to his offensive capabilities.
Dude, I have to respectfully disagree. I think Lennox would embarass Wlad rather quickly, and I think Michael Grant would knock Wlad out too.
Wlad would get his ass whupped so bad it wouldnt be funny. Remember when Lennox fought Michael Grant and almost knocked his ass out throught the ropes? Well, take that picture in your head and replace Grant with Wlad and thats what will happen in the fight.
Wlad has a terrible chin no doubt. But he is so much more skilled than Grant that it's not funny. Since both Wlad and Lennox have bad chins, I would give Wlad a chance due to his offensive capabilities.
I think what truely launched vitali in the U.S. was his size and his at the time 26-0-0-26kos. record. Everyone expected bigger things from him. As far as im concerned and i may be alone on this, he is just another title holder.
LEWIS will NEVER come out of the retirement to fight Vlad! If he ever does, it will be for the mega-bucks to fight Vitaly
Why does everyone keep saying Lenox had a bad chin? He got K the fuck Out twice? This is what happens in heavyweight division... you miss a big shot from a power puncher and out you go!
Golota set Grant up on a silver platter for Lewis. Golota ruined Grants career not Lewis. It may sound dumb, but it's the truth.
Whats your point? Im just trying to say that Lewis would beat Wlad ass the way he did Grant.