My thoughts on the fight.

Relax don't be such a pussy, I'm Mexican and I didn't take offense to Spinksjinx comment. I don't think he meant it how you took it so relax. I did not take offense. Spinks is cool. And I am Mexican. I do not think you are. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

you, you dirty ol bastard

Vargas was trying new things, so you cant really criticize him for now. That's what I said in another thread. Vargas shouldn't try all these new things at once. He needs to concentrate on winning and getting his confidence up while working on new things in the gym then gradually applying them in the ring.

and as if merchant didnt defend pacman enough in their fight he decided to bring up the conversation of the headbutt once again. This guy is a drunken piece of work I tell you Who you calling a drunk? http://www.klitschko.com/images/photo_999_1.jpg

Vargas was trying new things, so you cant really criticize him for now.

C'mon man that wasn't racist... I think Spinksjinx just said it casually not with any meaning behind it. It just shows how one comment can cause such a frenzy LOL. :D

Relax don't be such a pussy, I'm Mexican and I didn't take offense to Spinksjinx comment. I don't think he meant it how you took it so relax. I do not think you have the influence to instigate this discussion. Please do not tell me to relax, when I was not attacking anyone. I was merely returning a racist comment with another one. I like Spinxjinx. And this has absolutely nothing to do with you. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

:mad: dude. Wtf is that supposed to mean? has Spinks taken time off to eat Watermelon and Chicken? Relax don't be such a pussy, I'm Mexican and I didn't take offense to Spinksjinx comment. I don't think he meant it how you took it so relax.

Maybe he could do something at 154...he can beat that Castillejo guy, but Ouma beats him and he has no chance against the elite at 160.. I agree he should not fight at 160, if he plans on being a great fighter again its at 154.

:mad: dude. Wtf is that supposed to mean? has Spinks taken time off to eat Watermelon and Chicken? I suppose Spinks did have weight issues his last fight, but depending on how it is cooked chicken is great for you. But what I was referring to was that he didnt just kick back and relax on his layoff instead he was out legitmately and wasnt out because he received an ass beating but on the sidelines fighting serious injuries.

He was rusty, it was blatant If he would have thrown his jab more the fight wouldnt have gone 10 rounds.

Mayweather-The thing that I am worried about Vargas more so than his back is his Thyroid problem, in boxing where weight is a major issue that could kill your career in an instance. Hopefully he can rebound though, I cant be to criticizing of him as you stated he had more than a year off with nagging injuries. It isnt like he just took the time off to eat enchiladas. Exactly, I think we should all look at that fight as a sparring session. Vargas was off over a year and he just got a new trainer, I think next time we see Vargas fight is when we can truley judge him.

. It isnt like he just took the time off to eat enchiladas. :mad: dude. Wtf is that supposed to mean? has Spinks taken time off to eat Watermelon and Chicken? Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Mayweather-The thing that I am worried about Vargas more so than his back is his Thyroid problem, in boxing where weight is a major issue that could kill your career in an instance. Hopefully he can rebound though, I cant be to criticizing of him as you stated he had more than a year off with nagging injuries. It isnt like he just took the time off to eat enchiladas.

wasnet this a come back fight lol.

thi fight reminded me of johnson tarver, a busier Joval but a more accurate vargas. I sure hope he doesn't try and fight this defensive passive counter style with a more accurate puncher/brawler.

The fight was very close, Joval was busier than what I thought he would have been. In the first round, it worried me Vargas was jumping into A LOT of shots it was like he was diving and pushes his punches. As the fight progressed Vargas did a little better. One thing I didnt like about the fight was the ref, I thought was Joval did was disgusting to Vargas he held onto his glove and kept punching him. The ref should have taken proper authority to this. Plus the low blow, but the ref was behind Joval...Very bad officiating. Joval brought it but not enough, I had it much closer than most 6-4 in favor of Vargas even a 5th could go to Joval. Vargas looked like crap, his defense was good but aside from his few nice lefts his punches werent really all of that spectacular. But I keep in mind he has been off with MAJOR injuries. The HBO commentators made some bullshit calls to hype Vargas up. But overall not top caliber and his fight tonight wouldnt make it in the top class but he has rust and I will be looking forward to seeing Vargas again and hope he recovers well. I was impressed with Vargas I mean c'mon he hasn't faught in 15 months and has all kinds of health issues. He fought pretty damn good and got some rounds in. Plus he boxed smart.

and as if merchant didnt defend pacman enough in their fight he decided to bring up the conversation of the headbutt once again. This guy is a drunken piece of work I tell you

The fight was very close, Joval was busier than what I thought he would have been. In the first round, it worried me Vargas was jumping into A LOT of shots it was like he was diving and pushes his punches. As the fight progressed Vargas did a little better. One thing I didnt like about the fight was the ref, I thought was Joval did was disgusting to Vargas he held onto his glove and kept punching him. The ref should have taken proper authority to this. Plus the low blow, but the ref was behind Joval...Very bad officiating. Joval brought it but not enough, I had it much closer than most 6-4 in favor of Vargas even a 5th could go to Joval. Vargas looked like crap, his defense was good but aside from his few nice lefts his punches werent really all of that spectacular. But I keep in mind he has been off with MAJOR injuries. The HBO commentators made some bullshit calls to hype Vargas up. But overall not top caliber and his fight tonight wouldnt make it in the top class but he has rust and I will be looking forward to seeing Vargas again and hope he recovers well. that's a cool analysis