Trinidad at 168

Not so sorry since he got a belt from Joppy at the time, and lasted 12 rounds with a top five all time Middleweight ever, Lacy is another Taylor. I wasn't aware that he lasted the full 12 rounds.

Hopkins can take Trinidad's punches not because Trinidad cant punch at 160 but because he's got a good chin (example Hopkins vs. Echols). I think Trinidad can punch at 160 but I think his power would decrease a little at 168 and his stamina will decrase noticably.

When I started this thread, I asked if Trinidad could win a belt at 168. I don't care if he stays in that division, that is not the point. All I want to know is who thinks that he would get a belt at super middle. Any belt, I don't care. WBC, WBA, IBF, or WBO. Well there is no way that he is going to beat Kessler, Calzaghe, or Lacy, but he may be able to beat Beyer, but then again everyone said that about Green too.

the 168 pounders would throw tito around like he was a rag doll. And I wouldnt even think of him at 175. It would be like throwing a rat terrior in to fight a pitbull. Tito is not made up on a big frame. If you think about many that stepped up in weight they were normally very tall for the weight that they began fighting at. Thomas Hearns is the guy that comes to mind for that. Bottom line trinidad is not big enough nor strong enough to fight at 168 with his style. Now if he was a willie pep or chris byrd type, that could be a different story...............Rockin' perfect fucking post. i am a KRAZY Tito fan but 168 is too much for him. he should stay at middle

When I started this thread, I asked if Trinidad could win a belt at 168. I don't care if he stays in that division, that is not the point. All I want to know is who thinks that he would get a belt at super middle. Any belt, I don't care. WBC, WBA, IBF, or WBO.

You're right, I was thinking of Lacy. Never seen Beyer so I can't speak to that but I do thik he's too small to contend in that class, generally. Beyer and Calzaghe are over the hill. Bute, Kessler, and Lacy are the future of the division.

he's been down in 7 fights, but he has 1 LOSS, knockdowns are what motivates Tito to take over and dominate (geez I can't believe that I'm defending Tito, I've rooted against him for about a decade...) He has one loss, but then again he only has 3 wins at middlweight over, Cherifi, Mayorga, and Joppy. :sad6:

If he want's to do it, fuk it, let him do it, that's what I like bout him he likes real challenges(?)...would a fight against Lacy/Calzague be risky? Of course...Would I pay to see it? Hell yeah.. who do you think would win tho??

Pernell Whitaker was too small for 154 pounds also...thats why he beat JC Vasquez for the WBA title at 154 you can't just speak "in general" about a guy being too small...is he too small for Jeff Lacy in particular? Probably. But too small for Markus Beyer? I doubt it.154 was too big for Swee Pea btw.

Pernell Whitaker was too small for 154 pounds also...thats why he beat JC Vasquez for the WBA title at 154 you can't just speak "in general" about a guy being too small...is he too small for Jeff Lacy in particular? Probably. But too small for Markus Beyer? I doubt it.You're right, I was thinking of Lacy. Never seen Beyer so I can't speak to that but I do thik he's too small to contend in that class, generally.

It doesn't matter that 168 is weak. He has been down in 7 fights against fighters who punch no where near as hard as Lacy or other top 168 lbs fighters. This is just asking for trouble. he's been down in 7 fights, but he has 1 LOSS, knockdowns are what motivates Tito to take over and dominate (geez I can't believe that I'm defending Tito, I've rooted against him for about a decade...)

Dude. He's too small. It don't matter if 168 is WEAK. Heavyweight is WEAK too. Why doesn't he give that a go? Pernell Whitaker was too small for 154 pounds also...thats why he beat JC Vasquez for the WBA title at 154 you can't just speak "in general" about a guy being too small...is he too small for Jeff Lacy in particular? Probably. But too small for Markus Beyer? I doubt it.

If he want's to do it, fuk it, let him do it, that's what I like bout him he likes real challenges(?)...would a fight against Lacy/Calzague be risky? Of course...Would I pay to see it? Hell yeah.. I'd pay for it ... but I still think he'd be ill advised to do it.

Tito's chin has won him 5 title belts in 3 divisions, with only 1 loss to a living legend, and 168 is WEAK It doesn't matter that 168 is weak. He has been down in 7 fights against fighters who punch no where near as hard as Lacy or other top 168 lbs fighters. This is just asking for trouble.

his body isnt built for it. Im not doubting his skills, but cmon, look at lacy and trinidad physically. Its a complete mismatch. What difference? LOL. http://slam.canoe.ca/2000GamesBoxingImages/lacy-sep26-AP.jpg http://www.garyshawproductions.com/promoJeffLacy.jpg http://www.profiboksz.hu/genesis/nagyito/hopkins3.jpg

Tito's chin has won him 5 title belts in 3 divisions, with only 1 loss to a living legend, and 168 is WEAKDude. He's too small. It don't matter if 168 is WEAK. Heavyweight is WEAK too. Why doesn't he give that a go?

I think that the better question is since when did Tito have a good enough chin to be able to move up to super middleweight and dominate? Tito's chin has won him 5 title belts in 3 divisions, with only 1 loss to a living legend, and 168 is WEAK

his body isnt built for it. Im not doubting his skills, but cmon, look at lacy and trinidad physically. Its a complete mismatch. Look at 'em physically? Tell that to all of Riddick Bowe's opponents who got KTFO....this isn't a beauty competition, it's a prizefight I am impressed by the fact that 2 of Jeff's opponents pulled out of the fight at the weigh-in when Jeff removed his shirt, that's pretty amazing....but those guys weren't Legends, Tito is

Since when did Lacy and Calzone become so dangerous? I think that the better question is since when did Tito have a good enough chin to be able to move up to super middleweight and dominate?

Lacy dominate Tito.....damn I'm a big Jeff Lacy fan and I can't see it happening, even on Jeff's best day and Tito's worst, Trinidad has had one bad fight in the past 15 years and all of a sudden he doesn't have the ability to move up in weight and beat all of these chumpions....????... Since when did Lacy and Calzone become so dangerous? tito's chin isnt great and lacy has some pop. p4p tito is better but lacy's power would be the factor.