Im not sure if they made a thread on this already because I just checked right now but do you think the weight affected Pacmans KO power? Was it a factor?
one last thing i forgot to mention
as to why pac doesnt impress me
he lacks defense
people seem to think hes boxing becuz he does the lil bob from left to right
but he only does it when hes outta range
as soon as he throws a punch or is getting ready to
he stops moving
so dats also why i dont give him credit for a being a boxer
hes a fighter
hit and get hit
he can play soccer he's got fast feet. he plays basketball and billiards, he's got a lot of talent that's why i keep on wondering why you're not impressed with him. maybe it's you that don't have anything (i mean talent) and that's your defensive mechanism to get even eh?
if u say so
but the simple fact remains
is that manny is no boxer
he has skills
like he can throw a awsome strait left,untechnical one but powerful none the less,
he hasa decent jab, showed it against mab but never again since then,
pretty good right hook, agian showed against mab been absent since
but his attack is robotic
he trys the same combo over n over until it works
whethers its his patent 1 2 , jab strait
or his body flurry
but when they dont work hes only got 2 choice
keep tryin them or try the other
hes not a thinkin fighter
morales and jmm were bale to figure out his pattern
morales doesnt have pattern
he has a wide variety of things he can do when one fails
and even if hes being succesful with a combo or punch
he'll still mix in other combos or punches
he thinks in thier
so its not that im not impressed with manny phsyical abilty
but he doesnt have the capacity to really use against someone who can think in their
but luckily for him
his same robotic attacks can work
i just thought of a perfect way to describe what i see him as
u ever played the street fighter games?
i do
and i think im pretty good, nothin special tho
but my lil bro whos like 10
has no idea how to do those brilliant combo things and do different powers
but he just finds a fighters strongest move
and sticks to it
and he can beat most people like that
our cuzn, my bro, his fiends
but when he plays me
he looks pathetic tryint he same thing over n over
and me nailen him with all kinds of shit
so finally
im not sayin pacs not somethin phuscialy awsome
cuz he obvioulsy is
but in this sport its not all physcial once ya get to the top
and dats why im not impressed with him, at this level
id still watch him demolish other guys that are like him or just cant find ways to get away from hs potent left
but guys with talent will be able to neutralize him
I think that it was an awesome fight, Morales was the better man that night and has what it takes to beat PAC in a rematch, IMO.
I think Pac should try to get a rematch with MAB, I think that would be a better fight than a rematch with Morales.
Great night for boxing, the 3rd fight was exciting as well, Jorge "El travieso" Arce is a warrior.
Barrera would have wanted a rematch had Pac won or not. hey he beat Morales twice already. JMM doesnt have a choice but to ifght PAc again if he wants any kind of legacy in this sport.
maybe but do think when Mab beat em in 3 the interviewer asked him if he want to redeem with pacquiao? what he said? Forget about JMM his a chicken gay :)
prrrrrrrrrrtrttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My apologized to not pinoy here..
sa tingin nyo ba kung tinalo ni Pac si Morales ng araw na yun sino pa kaya yung makaklaban nya?
tingin nyo ba hihingi ng rematch si marquez at Barrera gayong alam nila na tinalo rin ni si EM gayong napakalakas na kalaban nito? paano pa kikita si pacquiao like hopkins at mapapalaban kung wala ng gustong lumaban sa kanya? makikita nyo ulit yung totoong laban ni Pac sa rematch at rubbermatch dahil sigurado namang mangyayari yon ;)
Barrera would have wanted a rematch had Pac won or not. hey he beat Morales twice already. JMM doesnt have a choice but to ifght PAc again if he wants any kind of legacy in this sport.
prrrrrrrrrrtrttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My apologized to not pinoy here..
sa tingin nyo ba kung tinalo ni Pac si Morales ng araw na yun sino pa kaya yung makaklaban nya?
tingin nyo ba hihingi ng rematch si marquez at Barrera gayong alam nila na tinalo rin ni si EM gayong napakalakas na kalaban nito? paano pa kikita si pacquiao like hopkins at mapapalaban kung wala ng gustong lumaban sa kanya? makikita nyo ulit yung totoong laban ni Pac sa rematch at rubbermatch dahil sigurado namang mangyayari yon ;)
there's still a lot of fights ahead of pacman. if he showed this performance fighting against an injin-chi for example, there's no way chi would win. it's no shame losing to a very good boxer like morales. and they always say styles make fights, i know it now. let's wait for pac to heal his wounds and before that, let's hope Team Pacquiao settle their differences, they are fighting over money now, that's not what pacquiao needs right now.
He needs to calm down to prolong his career. He'll burnout if they keep pitting him against the mexican elites.
i will stick to it, mooks, it was a close fight but not that close. 115-113 on all cards, morales deserves that. but 2 points deficit is still close! if pacman wins 2 rounds more then what do you get, a draw isn't it? so, it's still close. or maybe if it's a consolation, i would say it like that.
It's ok man. I was just voicing my opinion. I gave it 8 rounds for Morales, Pac 4. That's when I focused on Morales and without sound. Yung muka din ni Pac, parang na bugbog. Para bang muka nya pagkatapos ng laban kay Nedal Hussein. Marami syang kinain na suntok nung sabado. At least no one can question his chin anymore.
it's really hard to tell if pacquiao would do well if there would be a rematch. when i saw morales outboxing and outsmarting pacquiao, i know that's all he could do. but that's just my opinion. pacquiao is doing good if he hurt his opponent but the way things had turned out during his recent fight with morales, i think it's very hard to win against el terible!
It's cuz Morales is so fucking versatile. Even if Pac would have a good plan though, Morlaes would adjust. His skills, size, style is made for Pac, I think he has Pac's number.
yeah he was very prepared and he did his homework very well that's why i am not agreeable if a rematch will take place. he even mimic pacquiao's moves and he's very confident. i think if he would fight erik, it would be the same result. he has a better chance against barrera and marquez. but i could be wrong.
He has to learn to throw punches while planting his feet. Pac's already got power and hits hard, how much more if he polishes his technique and work on his balance. Roach made a public mistake by saying Morales was old and that volumes of punches would do the trick. Wrong. Needs to work on his accuracy.
he can play soccer he's got fast feet. he plays basketball and billiards, he's got a lot of talent that's why i keep on wondering why you're not impressed with him. maybe it's you that don't have anything (i mean talent) and that's your defensive mechanism to get even eh?
you hit him :D
I apologize abdiel, my Pac-nuthugging has clouded my Morales-nuthugging judgement :boxing:
lol
its ok
just dont let it happen again
or else we have to cut off your arms
then you wont be able to hug on pacs nutz
i think someone owes someone an apology
but i wont rub it in man
just i was tryin to tell ya
it really wasnt close
I apologize abdiel, my Pac-nuthugging has clouded my Morales-nuthugging judgement :boxing:
Styles make fights and Morales style well always be tough for Pac to win. However, if pac to say he cant beat Morales in a rematch i think it not true. I heard some people say if Morales used Reyes gloves he would have koed many, i could see it going the other way as well. Also things like the cut and Morales hands could have come into play. Thats no excuse but Pac deserves another shot and i bet he will get it.
I think Morales beat him and there isn`t any excuses. Face it, live with it and learn to love it. Erik Morales is a beater fighter than Pac man!
So is Barrera and JMM. I hope Pac goes for the rematch with Marco.
The more I watch the fight, the less close it becomes. Morales won and teh fight wasn't that close. Manny P just kept attacking that's why it looked close. Skillswise, my boy got outclassed.
i think someone owes someone an apology
but i wont rub it in man
just i was tryin to tell ya
it really wasnt close
Pacquiao was not affected by the weight. He said the weight was fine and it is around his natural weight. Obviously as he moves up his speed with slow down, but he is still quicker then any other fighter at 130. Pac still had his power. His power was very visible when he would rush Morales and Erik would back up almost into the ropes. Erik was hurt pretty bad to the body in the first round, I'm not sure why Pacquiao did not stay on the body. Pac got tired because he did not pace himself, he threw a lot of power punches in the early rounds. Morales on the other hand was pacing himself by picking his spots.
I totally agree with this. The left body shot that landed on Morales as he was against the ropes in the first, hurt Morales big time! It made him retreat all the way back to another set of ropes in the ring. I was up on my feet at the end of that round saying "Manny just needs to stick to his game plan." Before the fight, I kept thinking "manny needs to stick to the body attack in the early rounds to have a chance for a KO in the later rounds, when he can go head-hunting. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case. I think that Manny got tired in the early rounds and needed to slow down (which he did), but before catching his breath to do battle again, he received the cut. He showed a lot of heart. I cannot believe someone can say he was outclassed by Morales when he had blood seeping into his right eye from before the halfway point of the fight. I mean if Morales couldn't take Manny out with a cut like that, this just proves Manny's a World-class warrior...
Morales displayed great boxing, I must admit I was impressed. I have respect for him now, doesn't mean I have to like him.