I feel like a idiot for asking this because I dont know how to do it. I also feel like a idiot because I know that most of you dont like Floyd anyway but theres a article on Boxing Talk right now that has 2 parts to it and I was wondering could someone make a thread about it and bring it over here because I dont know how to do that. It is free right now.
I want to do it because he has said alot of things in it that I have said on here about him and other things.
Thanks, I hope
yeah tracy funny cause I didn't say that you said castillo beat Mayweather. This topic, nor boxingscene, does not revolve around you. I respond to other peoples' comments as well. Don't be so tracy-centric. It is very childish.
Gatti's only loss since becoming popular is against Ward. And that's the loss that made him famous. That is why a loss would hurt him now. He's seen by the general public as a good fighter, even though he's not very good. Let's watch him lose to Mayweather and see Gatti's stock soar. Casual fans and fans of people like Gatti get sick of seeing Gatti lose. Mayweather would slow down the Gatti train. I didn't say he'd lose all his fans, but he'd lose a lot. Then another loss or two and he'd be very hard to market.
Let Gatti lose to Vivian Harris or Junior Witter and watch that stock really soar high.
lol, the last thing i'm hung up on is myself...conceited is not something I am, okay. Your post did not single out anyones posts but mine, not until the very bottom of it...so it looked like you were talking to me. You dont have to be such an ass just cause your post looked one way when it was a different way all together.
The guy that fought DLH? You meaning Gatti? He isn't the same guy that fought DLH. Back then, he had nothing at all to lose. Now he's got name recognition and any loss takes away from his psuedo-credibility that HBO has built up for him. Just like Wlad. As soon as Wlad was knocked out in 2 rounds by Sanders, every shred of credibility he had pretty much went out the window. HBO quickly back-peddled and started calling Vitali the better of the two Klitschkos.
A loss hurts. Especially Gatti. Tyson's credibility is hurt because he lost to f'n Danny Williams. You think Gatti losing to Mayweather won't hurt his...marketability? Yeah maybe Gatti will keep his hardcore fans but will he keep his casual fans? No. You gotta remember, the promoters don't cater to the hardcore fans, they already have us regardless.
And Castillo did not beat Floyd. Mayweather clearly won both fights. It was obvious, even though it was close in that first fight, no doubt. Mayweather was all screwed up. He'd had all sorts of trouble for years with his hands breaking. That was what happened there.
Imagine having a broken hand and having a guy come at you with two good hands. It wouldn't have mattered who the opponent was, it would've made Mayweather look bad that night. But he still outpointed Castillo. He stayed in control of the fight, sticking Castillo with that jab, fairly his only useful punch with the broken hand.
Also, Castillo came in upwards of 150 both times when he fought Floyd. Mayweather was still right around the mid-130s. So he was fighting a guy basically 2 to 3 weight classes above him. This is more reason that I think Floyd would be fine against Mosley now. He wouldn't get destroyed like everybody thinks.
Your point? Floyd also beat all his opponents. So yeah. And how has Floyd been disrespectful toward all his opponents? Give me exact quotes. He's been more disrespectful to Gatti than anybody. One of the things I kept waiting for was for him to be more arrogant. Don't mistake arrogance for confidence. In the past, Mayweather mostly said he was better than his opponents and he'd beat them because he was more skilled. So? That isn't disrespectful. It is truthful. His comments against Gatti are definitely disrespectful. And I'm glad he said it all. I like him even more for saying it.
I dont think Gatti would lose any fans with a loss to Mayweather. Funny thing is, I never said that Castillo beat Mayweather..and I know it's difficult to win a fight with a broken hand cause Gatti has had to do just that twice (one of the many reasons he's so well liked)
That was a totaly different situation. DLH brings more money to the table then you would ever make in your life so every guy wants to fight Oscar, even the guys who dont think they can beat him. Gatti wasnt nothing special to the casual fan then and had nothing to lose.
But now Gatti is a champ who makes alot of money and can draw big crowds. He has everything to lose and he knows that Floyd can destroy all of that
Destroy? See, I dont look at it that way cause I'll still be a Gatti fan if he lost to Floyd. My main point was that he wasnt afraid of DLH being able to hurt him, so why would he be afraid of Floyd hurting him. We're talking two different issues here..one is pain, and the other is money/fan followship, etc.
I agree, and posted something similar a few days back. If he wasnt afraid to fight DLH, who hits harder then Floyd, then why on earth would he be afraid to fight Floyd? Just does not make sense! :confused:
That was a totaly different situation. DLH brings more money to the table then you would ever make in your life so every guy wants to fight Oscar, even the guys who dont think they can beat him. Gatti wasnt nothing special to the casual fan then and had nothing to lose.
But now Gatti is a champ who makes alot of money and can draw big crowds. He has everything to lose and he knows that Floyd can destroy all of that
I seriously dont think that guy who fought DLH would be afraid of Floyd. His management might be, but I dont think that they are.
Its one thing, for a management, ofcourse to be afraid of total decapacitation from hands of Tszyu and totally another to be afraid to get outboxed by Mayweather. IMO though, Gatti is not afraid to fight anybody.
I agree, and posted something similar a few days back. If he wasnt afraid to fight DLH, who hits harder then Floyd, then why on earth would he be afraid to fight Floyd? Just does not make sense! :confused:
lol
It's kind of weird but I always forget that Mayweather lost a fight already. However, I think the reason I forget is because he completely handled the rematch. That leads me to believe that his shoulder really was hurt in the first fight, but he still lost and ran most of the time.
OMG you Gatti fans seriously need to wake up. Gatti was so obviously trying to avoid the Mayweather fight because he knows his run is about over. Watch, Gatti'll have this fight postponed. I'll be shocked if it happens June 25th, if at all. Gatti is about to get injured. Remember everyone, Masterdirector said it before it happened.
And I don't feel bad at all about that post being here from boxingtalk. They shouldn't charge subscription fees at all because they're not giving boxers any of that money. Therefore, they're exploiting the boxers for personal gain just like promoters.
Aww, how sweet! Thanks ever so much for the bad karma...I really, really appreciate it :rolleyes:
I always said that the day Mayweather loses its going to be really bad for him. He's got some crazy skills, but he's very arrogant.
He did lose already, the first fight versus Castillo. We didn't get the full effect though because the judges totally blew the call. Merchant asked him if he thought he won though most people didn't but he just said he did and didn't say too much more, except that his his shoulder was messed up.
lol
MasterDirector, why on Earth would you berate Gatti the way you have done? I'm not his biggest fan, nor Mayweather's, but to call Gatti a faggot is ridiculously childish. I thought you were better than that.
Let me make some points:
1) Mosley is past his prime and his mentality is totally distraught. I could see Mayweather beating him, but Shane is so big, and would not be hurt by Floyd AT ALL. Shane could KO Floyd with shocking ease, but we don't know just how shot Shane is.
2) Floyd and Roy are not comparable when speaking of their repsect for other opponents. Floyd disrespects all opponents with his mouth; Roy rarely did this.
3) Buddy McGirt is a little too full of himself, so if Gatti loses, I would be happy that McGirt was stuck with his own foot in his mouth.
4) Mayweather talks big, but he also fights big. However, it remaines to be seen how angry Gatti will fight and if Mayweather will be able to deal with it. Gatti could seriously hurt Mayweather as he will be coming into the fight at around 155-160 and Mayweather will be at 141-144.
well actually floyds been more willing to fight lately
just like byrd
they reliazed its time to change it up if they wanna make any money
even if their new styles isnt the best for them
ill say gatti is boring
the last fight with lieja was boring
so tracEy has to check marks against her
:D
Hey, thats cool with me ;) I'm sure I have much more than just 2 marks against me anyway..if youre basing it on people that have disagreed with me in the past.
Very true! The day he accuses Gatti of backing out, and then tries to act like he can sell out an auditorium..man, thats just too much for me! Way too many people are bored of him and his style..one thing Ive never heard said about Gatti is that he is boring!
well actually floyds been more willing to fight lately
just like byrd
they reliazed its time to change it up if they wanna make any money
even if their new styles isnt the best for them
ill say gatti is boring
the last fight with lieja was boring
so tracEy has to check marks against her
:D
I always said that the day Mayweather loses its going to be really bad for him. He's got some crazy skills, but he's very arrogant.
Very true! The day he accuses Gatti of backing out, and then tries to act like he can sell out an auditorium..man, thats just too much for me! Way too many people are bored of him and his style..one thing Ive never heard said about Gatti is that he is boring!
It was just about everything he said. The comment about Mosley, and his attitude towards Gatti. Gatti does NOT duck anybody, and for him to keep accusing him of doing so is crazy..and he acts like there is absolutely nothing to worry about if he fights Gatti! I realize he is slick, and I've posted already, on other threads, that Gatti will probably lose, but if he were to catch him on the ropes and open up on him...well, who knows?? I know they like to brag and all that, but putting the other fighter down that way isnt necessary! He apparently has no respect for anyone but himself. The tickets that would be sold for this fight will be because of Gatti, and Floyds a fool if he thinks otherwise. Sure, plenty of Mayweather fans will be there, but even more Gatti fans will be too!
I always said that the day Mayweather loses its going to be really bad for him. He's got some crazy skills, but he's very arrogant.
Was it because what he said about Mosley?
I admit..that was uncalled for.
And is Mayweather Jr. like your new Jones Jr.?
It was just about everything he said. The comment about Mosley, and his attitude towards Gatti. Gatti does NOT duck anybody, and for him to keep accusing him of doing so is crazy..and he acts like there is absolutely nothing to worry about if he fights Gatti! I realize he is slick, and I've posted already, on other threads, that Gatti will probably lose, but if he were to catch him on the ropes and open up on him...well, who knows?? I know they like to brag and all that, but putting the other fighter down that way isnt necessary! He apparently has no respect for anyone but himself. The tickets that would be sold for this fight will be because of Gatti, and Floyds a fool if he thinks otherwise. Sure, plenty of Mayweather fans will be there, but even more Gatti fans will be too!
I agree. There's nothing I hate more than an arrogant asshole! :rolleyes: I hope like hell Gatti manages to land flush and knock his ass out! Disliked him before, cant stand him now!
Was it because what he said about Mosley?
I admit..that was uncalled for.
And is Mayweather Jr. like your new Jones Jr.?
Thanks fotr the post of this, it has reaffirmed what I have thought of Mayweather all along, the guy has all the talent in the world but he is a worthless piece of shit! I really hope he is taking the fight with Gatti this lightly, cause if he is he just might get knocked the fuck out. If he does get ko'ed by Gatti I hope just as he is coming around Buddy Mcgirt and Oscar are both there standing directly above him to say "YOU JUST GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT MAN!!!!!!!!"
I agree. There's nothing I hate more than an arrogant asshole! :rolleyes: I hope like hell Gatti manages to land flush and knock his ass out! Disliked him before, cant stand him now!
wouldnt it have been easier to post the link to the actual article instead of jacking it and posting it here?
even worse then the ease of cutting and pasting or checking out source code. Whats so hard about posting a link and giving credit? lol.
Yeah, I feel bad for reading it...what we just did was illegal. :(
Thanks fotr the post of this, it has reaffirmed what I have thought of Mayweather all along, the guy has all the talent in the world but he is a worthless piece of shit! I really hope he is taking the fight with Gatti this lightly, cause if he is he just might get knocked the fuck out. If he does get ko'ed by Gatti I hope just as he is coming around Buddy Mcgirt and Oscar are both there standing directly above him to say "YOU JUST GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT MAN!!!!!!!!"