Did anyone else notice the very poor physical condition of Hatton? I know the fight is three months away, but that is the worst shape I have ever seen him in. Double chin and puffy face very clear.
knocked out the ppl he has it shows he is elite. if someone had battered everyone who is near the elite and once was the elite then obviously they are elite, they may be at the bottom of the elite stock but they are definatly there.
Can you please re-phrase that paragraph? I cant understand it.
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What's Hatton, like 5'7? He looks like he weighs 190 lbs. or more. Even if he does well on fight night, that's not a good habit at all, gaining and losing that much weight in such a short time. As time goes on, he's gonna get weaker and weaker in fights because of his body's decreasing ability to retain it's strength after losing so much weight.
Hatton looks kinda like an evil John Daly.
:D he does, even if he makes weight, on fight night he'll weigh at least as much as kostya, maybe it'll help him take the punches better
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As for the weight issue, basically I see it as cheating. Ricky weighs in as a Light-Welterweight yet fights as at least one weight class higher. I don't mean his weight three months earlier, I mean the difference between fighting and weighing in.
Apart from th HW there are very few fighters that actually weigh what the limit is at the time of the fight.
in refferance to the below the above post LOL sry to start the hole hatton cotto thing and get a lil off subject
and just for fun i noticed "tto" in both hattons and cottos name maybe there not so different after all
oh and in refferance to the above post hatton has done similar things if not more than cotto and alot of u talk about him as if hes elite so hatton must be as well
hatton has already proved that he belongs whith the elite
no one is saying that he is the top top of the elite but he is elite
without a shadow of a doubt to fight the way he does and to have knocked out the ppl he has it shows he is elite.
if someone had battered everyone who is near the elite and once was the elite then obviously they are elite, they may be at the bottom of the elite stock but they are definatly there.
I still dont understand the Hatton weight issue, Hatton does the same thing every time and on fight night there isnt anyone i can think of who could keep tempo with him. Carrying a bit of fat isnt too bad, its a good source of energy for an intense training camp.
Its an issue cuz this is the biggest fight of Hattons career and his one chance to finally prove he belongs with the elite. I don't think there is anything wrong carrying a little fat, I mean people are right the fight IS 14 weeks away. But take into account the time that Hatton needs to get into shape, he could have invested that valuable training time to work on something special instead of losing fat.
Did anyone else notice the very poor physical condition of Hatton? I know the fight is three months away, but that is the worst shape I have ever seen him in. Double chin and puffy face very clear.
You were reading my mind Rick. KT looks like he's been training somewhat & trying to keep his weight down. Hatton on the other hand looks like he lives at a Guiness stout factory. If KT was really out of shape, you'd see the weight in his face. This is the biggest fight of Hatton's career & yet he's still looking sloppy. I don't care how he trains from now on, in a fight of this magnitude any boxer should be in the shape of their life. A fighter needs to be prepared mentally & physically for a huge fight. Hatton needs to take a lesson from JMM in his prepartion for a rematch with Pac. That guy started training early because he knew how big the fight would be.
I still dont understand the Hatton weight issue, Hatton does the same thing every time and on fight night there isnt anyone i can think of who could keep tempo with him. Carrying a bit of fat isnt too bad, its a good source of energy for an intense training camp.
That is just the way it goes. If you don't like it, don't watch boxing, or any other sport that has weight limits.
I think Anorak was talking about a huge difference between opponents in the final weigh in. Not necessarily the fact they gain weight after the weigh in.
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But at the end of the day, you fight in the shape that you are in the day of the fight, the judges don't give you points for how good you looked three months before.
Anorak-
Fighters fight at a higher weight than what they weigh in at. In the fight on Saturday both Diaz and Castillo unoffically weighted in at about 15 pounds over the limit. That is just the way it goes. If you don't like it, don't watch boxing, or any other sport that has weight limits.
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KT would be walking around at 170 right now, it just appears that he carries it a bit better than Hatton. I heard one of the other celebrity Grand Prix drivers on the radio the other day & they said that Kostya told them he starts training today (Monday 7th) and has to lose 15KG's. This is not the first I have heard of KT's weight getting that high between fights.
The difference is, Hatton looks out of shape rather than heavy if you know what I mean. KT is obviously keeping fit. Hatton doesn't look like he's doing the same & that is his worry.
Isn't it disgraceful that he fights 15lbs higher than the weigh-in weight?
Gatti was guilty of this offense several times in his career.
He almost killed Gamache when they fought.
Gatti was 24 pounds over the limit.
Yes. That is disgraceful.
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OK, I will chime in.
Hatton probably has a natural weight of about 160 which is pretty big for a guy that is about 5'6 or so. When he is not watching his weight, he probably gets up to about 170 and his face gets a little puffier. As the fights get closer, he probably loses about 2 pounds per week until he gets to about 155 or so. The couple of days before the fight, he dehydrates himself to about 140 or a little lower and then drinks about two gallons of water the day of the weigh in to get back up to the 155 or so that he fights at.
This is no different from other fighters, it is just the Tszyu's body was smaller because the camera was farther away (or further).
Also, it looked like Tszyu's face was in high def, but Hatton's was stretched. Tszyu definately had better posture and was not slouching as much.
All these make the discrepency much more pronounced than it really was.
Despite this, I still pick Tszyu. Way to go out on a limb to pich the heavy favorite.
Excellent post. Im pretty sure camera angles did play a part in asessing their "weight".
Tszyu looked broadcasted in a studio next door,
Hatton by a "handicam".
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OK, I will chime in.
Hatton probably has a natural weight of about 160 which is pretty big for a guy that is about 5'6 or so. When he is not watching his weight, he probably gets up to about 170 and his face gets a little puffier. As the fights get closer, he probably loses about 2 pounds per week until he gets to about 155 or so. The couple of days before the fight, he dehydrates himself to about 140 or a little lower and then drinks about two gallons of water the day of the weigh in to get back up to the 155 or so that he fights at.
This is no different from other fighters, it is just the Tszyu's body was smaller because the camera was farther away (or further).
Also, it looked like Tszyu's face was in high def, but Hatton's was stretched. Tszyu definately had better posture and was not slouching as much.
All these make the discrepency much more pronounced than it really was.
Despite this, I still pick Tszyu. Way to go out on a limb to pich the heavy favorite.
haha.
I was talking more about:
http://www.profiboksz.hu/news/parts/hatton.jpg
how he looks here. More lean mass on his shoulders.
it is obvious, that he is blown up right now. :D
He looks over there like light-heavy or cruiserwight.
It is so funny to hear Hattons fans act like it is nothing by saying " He'll lose the weight." Ofcourse he will, there is alot of money on the line. Bt in this sport you HAVE to stay in shape, even when not training for a fight. The weight can come off, but the body will take time to adjust. I actually was kind of leaning towards Hatton in an upset at first because of his strong fighting on the inside, but I have changed my mind totally on this one. Kostya Tszyu stops a fatigued Ricky Hatton by late round stoppage.
> All of that muscle mass, is a waste of space on his body.
What he has right now is not a muscle mass, you are not geting it from fish and chips kind of training.
haha.
I was talking more about:
http://www.profiboksz.hu/news/parts/hatton.jpg
how he looks here. More lean mass on his shoulders.
it is obvious, that he is blown up right now. :D
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> All of that muscle mass, is a waste of space on his body.
What he has right now is not a muscle mass, you are not geting it from fish and chips kind of training.