Ponce De Leon V.S. Rafa Marquez

de leon just looked like such an amateur in the fight with cabalero, he showed no skill, he can take a good beating though ill give him that Funny. I would say the same about Arturo Gatti. Except, sometimes people have to pick and choose among complete bums. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

this is no war, de leon uses his head to block punches, his defense is worse than Rocky Balboa! marquez would check that chin in the 1st round. if caballero had more power he would have made quick work of de leon Rafael Marquez is no defensive technician either man. He also blocks punches with his head. LOL. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

so had ponce fought those same guys its not like u can say he would have also been kod more like Rafa just dropped the ball in those fights That is exactly my point. Ponce's chin has not REALLY been tested yet. Both are pressure fighters, and yes. You could say that Ponce dropped the ball against Caballero, as well as Marquez being a new "revived" fighter at superbantam. The only thing is, I think this is a damn coin toss. Believe it or not. (as to who's chin is more suspect). Both can crack. And mark my damn words. If they ever fight: De Leon will make it more interesting than the majority of the public would think. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I think I created a monster with this topic. Someone please think of another Bantam, or Superbantam fight we can argue about. Its obvious we all pick Marquez. :boxing: :rolleyes: the closest would be Larios - Marquez, and even then I'd favor Rafa.

Did u guys know that Rafa lost his debut to a guy with over 40 fights? ya suposedly they said it was goin to originaly be just an exibition fight but once Rafa lost they decided to make it count thats krazee tho that they threw him in with someone with 40 fights DID YOU KNOW marquez debut fights are bad luck older brother JM also lost his first pro fight

Did u guys know that Rafa lost his debut to a guy with over 40 fights? Yeah pretty crazy. Did you know: that Israel Vasquez knocked Larios out in the first round of their first fight: Larios Knocked Vasquez out in the 12th round of their second fight. That is whats called...overcoming adversity. sorry. not to change the subject. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

Did u guys know that Rafa lost his debut to a guy with over 40 fights?

I think I created a monster with this topic. Someone please think of another Bantam, or Superbantam fight we can argue about. Its obvious we all pick Marquez. :boxing: :rolleyes: Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

True, but he did look shaky versus 2 sharp for example, and i think thats why they were saying his chin wasn't as good as De Leon. You can just forget his older fights though cuz he's a totally different fighter now. no doubt hes diff but chin doesnt really change overtime so i still say its fair to say Rafa has a shakey chin but his better style quicker harder punches get him the KO in this one

altho its true marquez has fought better opposition its not like he was KOd by top opposition his losses came early in his career so had ponce fought those same guys its not like u can say he would have also been kod more like Rafa just dropped the ball in those fights True, but he did look shaky versus 2 sharp for example, and i think thats why they were saying his chin wasn't as good as De Leon. You can just forget his older fights though cuz he's a totally different fighter now.

De Leon doesn't have a better chin than Marquez, he has not faught the same caliber fighters that Marquez has. If Marquez would have fought the same fighters Ponce De Leon has he would never get hurt either. I'm not saying Ponce De Leon is not good i'm just saying his opposition is at a much lower level than marquez's, not good enough to really test his chin. altho its true marquez has fought better opposition its not like he was KOd by top opposition his losses came early in his career so had ponce fought those same guys its not like u can say he would have also been kod more like Rafa just dropped the ball in those fights

By the way, whats up with these little comments under everyones avatar???? Are these new?

A good fight but Marquez has a shaky chin but has the power advantage. Ponce has the better chin and weaker punching ability. De Leon doesn't have a better chin than Marquez, he has not faught the same caliber fighters that Marquez has. If Marquez would have fought the same fighters Ponce De Leon has he would never get hurt either. I'm not saying Ponce De Leon is not good i'm just saying his opposition is at a much lower level than marquez's, not good enough to really test his chin.

It would be a Rafael Marquez shut-out and maybe even knockout. Ponce needs to work on his defense and boxing skills, i think in his last fight he was exposed a little bit by a fighter that can box and move well. I hope he does get a rematch with Caballero though.

A good fight but Marquez has a shaky chin but has the power advantage. Ponce has the better chin and weaker punching ability. yes, at least we agree that it would be a good fight. And your asessment of the two is dead on. I would give Ponce more credit in his punching ability, however; it does not rival Marquez' for sure. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

A good fight but Marquez has a shaky chin but has the power advantage. Ponce has the better chin and weaker punching ability.

I've seen several De Leon fights and i think he is definitely not ready for Rafa Marquez. I'd predict a mid round KO by Marquez. By the way did anyone see De Leon's last fight, i missed it , What happend? He lost a decision to Celestine Caballero. Close fight though IMO. Judges seemed to think it was a one-sided fight by their scores. 117-108 117-111 115-112 Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I've seen several De Leon fights and i think he is definitely not ready for Rafa Marquez. I'd predict a mid round KO by Marquez. By the way did anyone see De Leon's last fight, i missed it , What happend?

Would you agree to the fact the fight may be interesting, or do you think it would be extremely one sided? Defintly exciting while it last altho i do think its be kinda one sided but as we saw with Tito-Mayo One sided doesnt mean its not exciting its like Ultimate said its not the Ponce's chin is suspect its just that Rafa hits so damn hard but who knows Rafa and Ponce are bout the same size n reach so maybe Ponce might have a chance at landing some of those wide blows becuz alot of guys just cover up rafa does this to and its not good to just cover up and take those shots altho ponce shots seem slow and wide he manages to find ways to land them but in the end i still say Rafa in a one sided fight that ends up with a KO

Ponce doesn't stand a chance. I agree with the Rafa being a better fighter and all. but to say he doesnt stand a chance is ridiculous. De Leon can crack, and Marquez' chin is suspect. He at LEAST has a punchers chance IMO. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!